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Highly contagious. Maybe fix up quarantine so this thing doesn't get out to easily..hard to put the genie back in the bottle.
Acting PM Michael McCormacks(Cotton and Coal) reply in relation to vaccine rollout was the best
'its not a race'
There was a good letter in the paper about this, yesterday or today.
They said, no, it's not a race like the Melbourne Cup or the Stawell Gift. The Melbourne Cup and the Stawell Gift start on time, have a limited duration and we get a quick result. This, on the other hand, has no start time, we have no idea how long it will last and there are no results.
DS
Highly concerning especially when you're so under-vaccinated. But then again, it's "not a race."
plus there's usually only 1 death in the Melbourne cup race, and they've almost always escaped from quarantine
If you can get COVID in quarantine but test negative and then test positive later shouldn’t we add another two or three days after quarantine where you isolate at home as stupid as that sounds and get one last test that you get straight on your quarantine exit?
(and given it won’t be fixed for another 12 months)
(and given it won’t be fixed for another 12 months)
That's suggested. 2+1 in case you contract it in the last minutes of your stay in quarantine. But then you need a way to enforce it.
Sure phone lock ankle lock whatever. Beats millions being locked up.
separately - if this is Cotchin edwards Riewoldt Pickett then may derail us.
‘It would be insurmountable’: Players to head home if time away continues — The Age
Senior players and support staff at three of Melbourne’s biggest clubs have told their employers they will return home if Victoria extends its lockdown beyond this week and clubs have to spend an extended period on the road.
World Health Organisation gives Covid-19 variants new names (paywalled)
Covid variants now have new names based on the Greek alphabet.
The World Health Organisation (WHO) announced a new naming system for the key Covid-19 variants on Tuesday in a bid to make them simpler to say and remember.
Under the new naming system for key variants, the UK variant, the B.1.1.7 strain, has been renamed Alpha.
The South African strain, B.1.351, is called Beta, the Brazilian strain, P.1, is known as Gamma, and the Indian strain, B.1.617.2, is called Delta.
The WHO convened a group of scientists and other virus experts to come together and consider “easy-to-pronounce” and “non-stigmatising labels”.
“This expert group convened by WHO has recommended using letters of the Greek alphabet, i.e. Alpha, Beta, Gamma, which will be easier and more practical to discuss by non-scientific audiences,” the WHO said.
“The labels do not replace existing scientific names, which convey important scientific information and will continue to be used in research.
“The naming system aims to prevent calling Covid-19 variants by the places where they are detected, which is stigmatising and discriminatory.
“WHO encourages countries and others to adopt these names as they will ease public discussions about global Covid-19 variants of concern and interest.”
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"Indian strain" works fine for me.
Covid variants now have new names based on the Greek alphabet.
The World Health Organisation (WHO) announced a new naming system for the key Covid-19 variants on Tuesday in a bid to make them simpler to say and remember.
Under the new naming system for key variants, the UK variant, the B.1.1.7 strain, has been renamed Alpha.
The South African strain, B.1.351, is called Beta, the Brazilian strain, P.1, is known as Gamma, and the Indian strain, B.1.617.2, is called Delta.
The WHO convened a group of scientists and other virus experts to come together and consider “easy-to-pronounce” and “non-stigmatising labels”.
“This expert group convened by WHO has recommended using letters of the Greek alphabet, i.e. Alpha, Beta, Gamma, which will be easier and more practical to discuss by non-scientific audiences,” the WHO said.
“The labels do not replace existing scientific names, which convey important scientific information and will continue to be used in research.
“The naming system aims to prevent calling Covid-19 variants by the places where they are detected, which is stigmatising and discriminatory.
“WHO encourages countries and others to adopt these names as they will ease public discussions about global Covid-19 variants of concern and interest.”
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"Indian strain" works fine for me.
Joe Biden’s Covid ‘science' (paywalled)
William McGurn
Wall Street Journal
June 1, 2021
You wouldn’t know it from Joe Biden’s statement, but his order to the U.S. intelligence community to “redouble” efforts to find out whether Covid-19 originated in a Chinese lab is quite the comedown.
Nowhere mentioned is that the State Department already had such an investigation going when Mr. Biden entered office, but his team killed it. They killed it for the same reason they’ve made so many other bad decisions: If Donald Trump was for it, they are against it, and if Mr. Trump was against it, they are for it.
How far this is from the piety Mr. Biden offered up when he announced his science team in January. “I have always said that the Biden-Harris administration, we’re . . . going to lead with science and truth.”
Mr. Biden has made many such statements (“we are letting science speak again”), but they have little to do with science. They are meant as continued digs at Mr. Trump. All are offered with a confidence, apparently fully justified, that a largely pliant press will run with them, no hard questions asked, unless you count asking the president about the flavor of his ice cream.
Another way to put it is that the Biden administration cannot take a scientific approach to Covid-19 because it is too invested in politically convenient Covid-19 narratives. So we have sad spectacles such as White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki repeatedly refusing to give her boss’s predecessor even an ounce of credit for Operation Warp Speed, which spurred the development of Covid-19 vaccines in record time.
President Biden followed the same script in his March 11 address to the nation, dinging Mr. Trump for causing more Covid-19 deaths without once mentioning the vaccines. Likewise the $US1.9 trillion in relief was justified as necessary to jump-start a post-Covid economy when the evidence points to an economy already beginning to recover nicely on its own.
Now we have the embarrassing about-face on China. For more than a year the dominant narrative, again in the name of “science,” has dismissed as a conspiracy theory any claim Covid-19 might have originated in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The Journal reported last week that three of the Chinese lab’s workers were hospitalized in November 2019—before China’s first officially reported case—with symptoms that might be Covid-19. This is now leading some to concede there might be something to the lab story after all.
But as an editorial on these pages noted, “the suspicious facts have been apparent from the start.” Begin with this: Only a few miles from the Huanan seafood market, said to be Ground Zero for the Covid-19 pandemic, China operates a virology lab that conducts research on bats and coronaviruses and has ties to the military. On a phone call, former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says “all intelligence I have seen points to the lab.”
Surely the most reasonable approach would be to investigate the lab until it can be safely ruled out. But China has refused to cooperate, denying investigators proper access and information. By now Beijing likely has destroyed any incriminating evidence it can. At the same time, when Australia called for a full and honest reckoning at the World Health Organization, China responded with economic warfare, targeting Australian imports. Its Foreign Ministry has now responded to the renewed U.S. investigation by reviving a pet conspiracy theory of its own: that Covid-19 originated at a lab at Maryland’s Fort Detrick.
Why has Team Biden been so slow to call China on its bad behavior? Again the answer has nothing to do with science.
This was brought up by Brett Sutton in one of the press conferences last week. He mentioned a day 17 test but it sounded like some states wanted it and others didn't. They want a collective response so because some said no, then none of them are doing it. The way he worded it sounded like there was some discontent amongst states around quarantine. I would hazard a guess that NSW are the one sided against it along with the feds.
24, but most can’t get past delta anyway. We’re not scientists; people say “North Star” or “Pole Star” or maybe “Polaris”, but not Alpha Ursae Minoris.
I hope that didn’t cost you anything @LeeToRainesToRoach cause it proves zilch To my point that Trump completely mismanaged COVID.
Trump leaves the Whitehouse, new management comes in, new strategy and all of a sudden things get better.
Cause and effect.
Trump leaves the Whitehouse, new management comes in, new strategy and all of a sudden things get better.
Cause and effect.
Team Biden has quite rightly been focusing on GETTING AMERICANS VACCINATED
Shouldn't Australia's circumstances be considered when assessing the rollout.
You have to acknowledge that there would be a hell of a lot more urgency in Aust if the covid situation was more like that in the UK/Europe. Complacency of people has played a major role. Have a look at the numbers getting vaccinated now, I'm sure we wouldn't be seeing these if there had not been the recent outbreak.
And given Aust's enviable covid position and an initial world shortage of vaccine supply should we have been at the front of the queue in regards qty?
Bottom line, the gov't has performed terribly both in communication and delivery of the rollout. But there are other factors influencing it and I'm not sure comparisons to regions devastated by covid are the best for comparisons. NZ have less than 8% with one dose and less than 4% of the population fully vaccinated.
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