According to an article in The Age
My very strong advice to you is to not believe everything you read Lee. That article is strewn with inaccuracies.
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My very strong advice to you is to not believe everything you read Lee. That article is strewn with inaccuracies.
Interesting angle from many media outlets this morning focussing heavily on the number of deaths which is not surprising given the 2-3 week lag as opposed to the numbers (322) starting to come down. Not saying there's the deaths aren't important or sad but they love a negative take.
Interesting angle from many media outlets this morning focussing heavily on the number of deaths which is not surprising given the 2-3 week lag as opposed to the numbers (322) starting to come down. Not saying there's the deaths aren't important or sad but they love a negative take.
Yes this struck me as well, they are almost acting surprised. Increasing deaths is a tragedy but it was always going to happen with the increase in cases.
Which part is inaccurate - the number infected, the nurses arriving from WA or concerns about the shortage and quality of PPE?
The downward trend of the past few days is promising but no way are we out of the woods. Hopefully the stringent lockdown measures keep driving the cases down. The increase in deaths is sad and tragic but unfortunately not unexpected.
322 is a much better number, let's hope this keeps going and maybe we can look forward to Stage 3 restrictions.
I'll update the numbers later once DHHS revise their stats, there are always a few small adjustments for previous days. But, the 5 day average (centred) is falling and the 7 day average (trailing) in my graph are both heading in the right direction, at least for the moment.
DS
I'll update the numbers later once DHHS revise their stats, there are always a few small adjustments for previous days. But, the 5 day average (centred) is falling and the 7 day average (trailing) in my graph are both heading in the right direction, at least for the moment.
DS
They have mixed up the masks as a start. Surgical masks are not N95 masks, they are different things. The issue with N95's is not availability it is availability of correct sizes and when someone wears the wrong size there can be a problem.
Some doctors are pushing for usage of masks that are not available or are in short supply, what they are pushing for is not recommended as needed use by Commonwealth DH. Saying they need them doesn't make them available.
Many agendas here
Statements on availability by politicians not entirely accurate, Commonwealth and State
Can't say anymore.
How about the results of the Australian College of Nursing survey that prompted a health department meeting?
Yes the media rhetoric is always negative, hence why when good trends start coming with the data they focus purely on the negative which is deaths. The cold hard truth was that deaths were always going to follow and they will for some time with the level of active aged care cases (1756). There was a stat that around 40% of those in aged care that contracted it died. Even if this number was substantially lower than that, our death rate would still be going up and will do for several weeks IMO. Its not good, but we need to ensure that we focus on the good, otherwise the chances that more people will ignore restrictions will rise.
Active cases excluding aged care and healthworkers has again decreased, its been 3 days now (-56, -10 and today -60). Thats very much a good news story. This is likely the affect of masks coming through, the affect of Stage 4 will likely take upto another week to start being seen in the numbers so this is good news.
Active cases excluding aged care and healthworkers has again decreased, its been 3 days now (-56, -10 and today -60). Thats very much a good news story. This is likely the affect of masks coming through, the affect of Stage 4 will likely take upto another week to start being seen in the numbers so this is good news.
Absolutely correct. We are unfortunately going to see more hospitalisation and deaths in the near term and hopefully less new infections. I heard one of the deputy CHOs talking about it the other day, that is exactly what he predicted.
Seems the media don't get this or just want to continue on with theis incessant negativity. I've stopped watching a lot of news recently as I find that all they do is focus on the negative. Ie. the more they scare people the more that people watch their news programme. How about the news broadcasters just report on the news and be impartial with the way they report it.
There are good news stories coming through with infection rates reducing but they just won't focus on it. If the medias negativity leads to more people refusing to follow restrictions they need to be held to account.
Even last night, I heard the Channel 10 start of their broadcast. The main newsreader spoke about yesterdays deaths, and then the way he said the next bit was "is there ANY good news", ie. trying to accentuate the point around the any, like there isn't any. Just plainly bad reporting.
Even The Age is running negative headlines. Perhaps the belief is that Dan should not escape judgement after delaying the inquiry for six weeks.
I tend to agree with the below article and have lost some interest as a result.
Victoria’s daily COVID-19 reporting is hopelessly inadequate
Even The Age? I've stopped reading their paper since 9 (headed by Costello) overtook Fairfax.
Perhaps. I wasn't being critical. Was referring to a situation without lockdown, many thousands of cases per day and doctors believing they are not being given adequate resources to do their jobs with maximum possible safety. They see the facilities they work in unable to render proper care... do they keep going until they succumb, or put their families first? Not sure every health care worker is a saint.
Some parts of that I agree with but there is certainly an emphasis on dumbing down for the majority of the public. I note that the writer of that article appears to be a health writer so I suspect he understand the detail he is requesting but that level of data would confuse the vast majority of the poblic.
There is plenty of data released which the media could present on. Remember a big part of a journalists role is RESEARCH. There role isn't to regurgitate what the government has said, but assess and provide further detail around this. They appear to do zero additional research IMO from what they are given. I have a spreadsheet that tracks a few of the categories that the government reports on and is compiled on this website and I can provide WAYYYYYYYYYYYY more detailed analysis than any journalist in the country has done on this, it takes me about 1 minute per day to update my spreadsheet, massive time investment I know.
Journalists CAN provide more detail around this, but seem to choose not to for whatever reason that is, whether it is laziness or whether the networks purely want to report on negative news I'm not sure.
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It's now the Sydney Morning Age. Gutted. Destroyed a once great institution. The hit piece on Andrews the other day (which one, right?) was by a Sydney journo. They don't get Melbourne, we read, and watch foreign films while they sail on the harbour and scorn our alleys.
I think it behoves the government to put it on a plate, not just for the journo's but for the public. The reporting format isn't consistent and this makes it difficult to follow without effort. For example, the point about the r number, about which someone here asked recently. I spent considerable time Googling but was unable to answer the query.
This then leads to allegations like a few days ago, that the Vic government is deliberately withholding information and dialling down the numbers.
I do understand that there is a degree of uncertainty inherent in modelling, and that by releasing that data, the government opens itself up to ridicule when the reality very possibly doesn't match the forecast. I won't stray onto how models are held up as gospel on other, far more complex topics.
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