Coronavirus

[mrposhman]

So if they gave the R number, what would people do with it? The vast majority of the population would have no idea what it meant.

Sorry but you can train a chimp to do what journos do these days. They don't have to always be given anything on a plate, their job is to RESEARCH and I don't mean the ones that read the news, largely the newsreaders are purely that, but their "correspondants" that they cross to, I would expect them to do come level of research rather than just regurgitate numbers.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

So if they gave the R number, what would people do with it? The vast majority of the population would have no idea what it meant.

Sorry but you can train a chimp to do what journos do these days. They don't have to always be given anything on a plate, their job is to RESEARCH and I don't mean the ones that read the news, largely the newsreaders are purely that, but their "correspondants" that they cross to, I would expect them to do come level of research rather than just regurgitate numbers.

Reckon everyone understands the concept of over 1 = bad, under 1 = good.

I'm just looking at new cases and deaths now. Tried to sit through Dan's presser the other day but couldn't stay the distance.

 

[mrposhman]

Reckon everyone understands the concept of over 1 = bad, under 1 = good.

I'm just looking at new cases and deaths now. Tried to sit through Dan's presser the other day but couldn't stay the distance.

Just looking at those stats then, you are missing the underlying story. This is my point around journos too.

Just for my personal wellbeing around this I seem to do more research than journos who are paid to do it. It is practically given to you on one website, they just don't seem to have the will or the smarts to put a few numbers into a spreadsheet.

 

[MB78]

R number is what we need to hear in the media it’s a simple concept. We want the strike rate to be like Geoff Boycott/Bill Lawry rather than a Ricky Ponting playing underage cricket.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Just looking at those stats then, you are missing the underlying story. This is my point around journos too.

You're right, of course. But I shouldn't need to dig for the underlying story. Plus my job's come under threat and I'm trying to stave off redundancy.

The news industry is about being first to print. There's no scope for journo's to analyse on a consistent basis, except in an occasional trend article.

 

[mrposhman]

You're right, of course. But I shouldn't need to dig for the underlying story.

The news industry is about being first to print. There's no scope for journo's to analyse on a consistent basis, except in an occasional trend article.

It takes 1 minute to update a spreadsheet for that data. Expecting a journo to actually do their job is not too much to expect from them.

 

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[LeeToRainesToRoach]

It takes 1 minute to update a spreadsheet for that data. Expecting a journo to actually do their job is not too much to expect from them.

Maybe you should apply?

 

[jb03]

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IF only we had warnings from other countries about the risk for aged care and the elderly

 

[eZyT]

IF only we had warnings from other countries about the risk for aged care and the elderly

we cant even cooperate across internal borders.

when theres a bushfire, crews jump in the truck and drive to the fire from across the nation.

where are the planes full of Docs and Nurses from Qld and WA heading to Melbourne?

 

[mrposhman]

Maybe you should apply?

I'm happy in my current job

 

[AngryAnt]

Largely agree that journalistic quality is on the slide and has been for a decade. This is partly due to the media organisations cutting journos - many don't have time to do the research that was possible when print media had the "rivers of gold" from print advertising.

Not excusing slackness but this is the reality these days. There's also the culture of printing what your bosses want rather than trying to uncover the truth.

 

[Scoop]

The lack of direction from Government to all sectors around PPE is staggering.
“As recommended by industry bodies” ”as appropriate“ ” as logical” are all phrases used. Nothing specific.
Healthcare has recommended moving to nitrile gloves but their is a global shortage.
Will be a meat shortage over the next month, nothing surer. Major regional meat works have shut up shop for the next six weeks.

 

[DavidSSS]

Journos have increased workloads and there aren't enough of them, but they are also lazy. My partner used to be a union official and if you are not worried about a journo putting their byline on your words you can get your message out quite easily. Even more so if you're not a union official given the bias of the mainstream media.

I noticed today that the DHHS full report on COVI19 now has 9 pages up from 6, so a bit more data there. I suspect the data will get better as the numbers come down, it has been noticeable that there have been a lot of cases with unknown causes in the last few weeks, but these should come down as the new infections come down and they get the chance to investigate the cases in the past.

Today's number of new infections is a cause for hope, there is a chance we are turning the corner, bloody hope so:

​	Daily Cases​	7 day trailing ave​	5 Day Ave​
20 July 2020​	326​	291.14​	348.80​
21 July 2020​	439​	322.14​	339.00​
22 July 2020​	377​	333.86​	353.40​
23 July 2020​	289​	320.57​	371.20​
24 July 2020​	336​	338.43​	383.20​
25 July 2020​	415​	349.43​	379.60​
26 July 2020​	499​	383.00​	376.60​
27 July 2020​	359​	387.71​	443.80​
28 July 2020​	274​	364.14​	473.80​
29 July 2020​	672​	406.29​	448.20​
30 July 2020​	565​	445.71​	498.80​
31 July 2020​	371​	450.71​	516.60​
1 August 2020​	612​	478.86​	464.40​
2 August 2020​	363​	459.43​	491.80​
3 August 2020​	411​	466.86​	507.60​
4 August 2020​	702​	528.00​	472.20​
5 August 2020​	450​	496.29​	491.20​
6 August 2020​	435​	477.71​	486.00​
7 August 2020​	458​	490.14​	410.00​
8 August 2020​	385​	457.71​	​
9 August 2020​	322​	451.86​	​

The graph is showing signs of hope:



In 2 days the 7 day trailing average will drop off the biggest day for case numbers, following that we'll really see as a continuance of the downward trend after that big number for 4 August would indicate the restrictions are having an impact.

Went out for my usual ride today. Only anecdotal evidence, but I always do the same ride at a similar time of day, and although there were a lot of people walking on the beach, it is noticeable that the number of cars on the road is down.

Keep safe, and remain centimetre perfect!

DS

 

[MB78]

The lack of direction from Government to all sectors around PPE is staggering.
“As recommended by industry bodies” ”as appropriate“ ” as logical” are all phrases used. Nothing specific.
Healthcare has recommended moving to nitrile gloves but their is a global shortage.
Will be a meat shortage over the next month, nothing surer. Major regional meat works have shut up shop for the next six weeks.

There are no cases of the virus where some of these meat works operate in regional. Vic. Businesses that are really proactive and honest in how they are managed should be allowed to operate in a stage 3 environment.

If you can’t find a way to get these businesses operating in stage 3 restrictions we are not trying hard enough.

 

[Althom]

we cant even cooperate across internal borders.

when theres a bushfire, crews jump in the truck and drive to the fire from across the nation.

where are the planes full of Docs and Nurses from Qld and WA heading to Melbourne?

30 nurses from WA are already in Melbourne with more on the way this week.

 

[Althom]

IF only we had warnings from other countries about the risk for aged care and the elderly

Aged care death rate ‘one of highest in world’

Australia’s coronavirus death rate in aged care is one of the highest in the world but the tragic loss of more than 200 lives is “hardly surprising”, a royal commission investigating the outbreak in the sector has heard.

www.news.com.au

Apparently Public Hospitals in NSW are able to refuse admission to patients from federally run Old Age Homes and did so in the case of Newmarch House where 17 deaths have been recorded.
WTAF??
It appears the system is completely and utterly dysfunctional.

 

[Tigers of Old]

A sobering reminder of how bad things are globally.

COVID-19 Map - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) at Johns Hopkins University (JHU)

coronavirus.jhu.edu

 

[DjJazzyPete]

This is the situation in Southern Africa ( not just South Africa ) .. lucky for us all the cases in Botswana are 900 ks away in the capital Gaborone (compete lowdown there )..
With the figures ..out of the 804 cases in Botswana about 500 were South African truck transport drivers who tested positive at the boarder ad sent back to South Africa ..and some Zimbabweans who crossed the boarder illegality . I dont blame them with the crap going on in Zim atm ..However the illegal immigrants fleeing from Zimbabwe are out biggest challenge here when preventing the spreed of the virus .. Anyway thats why its not showing a large number of recoveries here .

.. but the bottle shops are still closed However my skills at my Apple and if available Pineapple home brew are becoming Jedi like . they have put the nation into zones and you cant travel outside our zones ..which has made it easy to lock down Gaborone and not the rest of the country . We have to wear masks from the beginning ( there quite the fashion item here now ) get our temps done and sign in with your Name ,address, phone number etc when going to any store ,petrol ,station, post office etc.. but this area is pretty free (apart from the alcohol ban and the travel ban .Shops are stocked well atm and we can go to the shops whenever we like . We can have gatherings up to 50 ppl for weddings events etc atm)

Things are not as good in Zimbabwe or South Africa .. Military are also out of hand in Zim ( looting , raping ,pillaging which is not helping there ). South Africa is full of ppl still not caring and not taking precautions..so really spreading there .. Much better situation here.. ppl have in Botswana seem to have pretty much accepted the situation and have taken precautions since day one. Were getting on with life the best we can ..hearing the same from mates in Namibia and Zambia ..

Wifey finally got a fight out of Melbourne last Tuesday ( after 7 canceled flights . Yeah her 1 month trip in March becoming a 5 month trip ) she had to come a long way back though Qatar , Kenya, Zambia and by road ..3 and a half days travel to the northern boaerder of Botswana.. she is in Quarantine now and will pick her up from there on the 20th ..cost 6 times much as the original ticket inc quarantine to get her back )
Was planing to go to Melbourne in January 2020 to see my mum , catch up with some mates (inc some of my old footy going mates some are on PRE ) and some cricket,tennis but tthat trip might be years away ( sadly )

 

[Tigers of Old]

Media Watch calling out media melodrama surrounding Covid. With particular focus on The Australian's recent front page..

Ep 27 - Mystery COVID modelling - Media Watch

Not secret, not modelling and not from the Victorian government. The Australian’s dodgy COVID ‘exclusive’.

www.abc.net.au