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Fourth protester confirmed positive. Andrews has advised me not to leave my council's boundaries.

Thanks to all the selfish *smile* out there.

@LeeToRainesToRoach , you're the legendary stats man of PRE. I have a question for you. As you said, we now know of a 4th BLM protester testing positive. Do you know exactly how many new cases in total we have had in VIC since June 6? 100? 150?
 
@LeeToRainesToRoach , you're the legendary stats man of PRE. I have a question for you. As you said, we now know of a 4th BLM protester testing positive. Do you know exactly how many new cases in total we have had in VIC since June 6? 100? 150?

172.

Don't forget the untraceables. Do they know where McKenna got his disease from yet?

My mum's in hospital in a distant suburb and if she starts going backwards I'll tell Andrews to stick his useless leadership up his arse.
 
thanks. didn't McKenna go to some property open house? thats what I read.

Who knows who else went through that joint, and where else he went that he's not owning up to.

Can't wait for the doorknock. Some poor sap is going to get a hostile reception.
 
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great post. let me add to it.

So the timeline is basically this:

- 4 weeks ago, everyone was demanding Andrews ease restrictions. Apparently, Victoria had the harshest restrictions (because you had selfish d!ckheads complaining about not being allowed to play golf), despite not closing its borders.

- a few days later Andrews announces the start of easing from June 1, with more to come on June 22

- Andrews tells people not to attend BLM protests on June 6, but it goes ahead anyway. 3 people catch COVID. People are outraged.

- Cases spike somewhat in the last few days. People are outraged. The same people demanding Andrews ease restrictions 4 weeks ago are blaming him for the spike.

- On the weekend, Andrews releases a statement saying the data is telling us that people are congregating at home and creating clusters. Restrictions are slightly tightened to restrict people from visiting in large numbers. People blinded by outrage wilfully ignore this and continue to blame the BLM protesters.

Here it is again, golf is the problem! Please point to the outbreaks in VIC, or in Australia for that matter that have resulted from people playing golf?

Absolutely moronic to keep referring to it. And previous posts have alluded to some perceived pressure or some sort of vibe caused by people agitating for golf that forced reduced restrictions and big outbreaks? Supported by what evidence?

The Cedar meats fiasco is the main reason for the increased case numbers, absolutely *smile* handling of the situation by the health department but completely ignored by idealogues who like to blame various other restriction reductions. You yourself have proved just that point by ignoring completely the recent branch stacking debacle. Labour don't operate that way hey?

Dan and his team are looking less in control than ever. No wonder other states don't want a bar of us.
 
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Here it is again, golf is the problem! Please point to the outbreaks in VIC, or in Australia for that matter that have resulted from people playing golf?

actually i didn't think golf should have been banned. but it was and it was setting a bad example publically complaining about it. it wasn't gonna change anything. Sam was just complaining to remain relevant. He's turned into a grumpy old dinosaur.

yourself have proved just that point by ignoring completely the recent branch stacking debacle. Labour don't operate that way hey?

Dan and his team are looking less in control than ever. No wonder other states don't want a bar of us.

the branch stacking was a disgrace. But Andrews acted immediately, which shows he is in control and in charge. which is a far cry from the handling of all the corruption going on in Canberra. I look forward to 60 minutes reporting on this soon enough (not holding my breath). I should also add that both sides branch stack, with suggestions this even occured in Scott Morrisions own seat. But I bet you didn't know about that, right?
 
actually i didn't think golf should have been banned. but it was and it was setting a bad example publically complaining about it. it wasn't gonna change anything. Sam was just complaining to remain relevant. He's turned into a grumpy old dinosaur.



the branch stacking was a disgrace. But Andrews acted immediately, which shows he is in control and in charge. which is a far cry from the handling of all the corruption going on in Canberra. I look forward to 60 minutes reporting on this soon enough (not holding my breath). I should also add that both sides branch stack, with suggestions this even occured in Scott Morrisions own seat. But I bet you didn't know about that, right?

Of course they do. And pork barrell. And they should all be charged and punished if guilty. But I won't defend one side over the other because I'm not some sycophantic one-eyed cheerleader.

Andrews handled it well??? You are brainwashed.
 
Andrews handled it well??? You are brainwashed.

did I say he handled it well? He handled it. end of. the flogs in Canberra don't even handle it. they ignore it and refuse to take accountability.

And yes I am biased (as opposed to brainwashed), but that doesn't mean I am wrong.
 
actually i didn't think golf should have been banned. but it was and it was setting a bad example publically complaining about it.

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the branch stacking was a disgrace. But Andrews acted immediately, which shows he is in control and in charge. which is a far cry from the handling of all the corruption going on in Canberra. I look forward to 60 minutes reporting on this soon enough (not holding my breath). I should also add that both sides branch stack, with suggestions this even occured in Scott Morrisions own seat. But I bet you didn't know about that, right?

Branch stacking is bad, no matter who does it. And both sides do it. But it needs to be stamped out.
 
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It does make me laugh in a sad nihilist sort of way when I see the car parks at Highpoint filled to the brim, school's packed to the rafters, and people cramming into each other's homes for dinner parties every day. Then people think a couple of hour out door protest has anywhere near the impact.

People just don't understand infectious disease.

Why are other states having such low numbers despite these activities? Schools have been operating longer than in VIC in other states? I imagine shopping centres & Bunnings stores have been as well attended as in VIC? People criticising Vic reducing restrictions cannot point at other states and use them as examples of why it was the wrong decision.

It appears that life can be reasonably close to normal (kids at school, people at work) with low infection rates if people do the right thing. Schools do not appear a major source of transmission at this point.
 
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Vic government announced a $1500 payment on the weekend to those testing positive. Reckon they suspect there are a few people getting around with the virus who are thinking “It’s just the sniffles” and want them to volunteer for testing so they can be pulled out of circulation.

I’m guessing this is similar to how the rot started in Sweden, where they did insufficient testing and employees took the virus into nursing homes.
 
Turns out Lee was wrong again.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...e/news-story/cb389440ca84946da4e2c25d121e766e

But a fortnight later, the incubation period for coronavirus, experts do not believe there are any confirmed cases of someone catching COVID-19 at the rallies.

That’s despite the four people in Victoria confirmed to have attended the BLM protests who were subsequently diagnosed with COVID.

Surprisingly, even in the United States where the coronavirus is rampant, some of the cities where the biggest BLM rallies occurred, including New York and Philadelphia, have actually recorded a fall in COVID cases after the protests.

Throws his whole "young people bonking are to blame" theory down the toilet too.

Becoming clear it's prolonged exposure in confined spaces that is the riskiest activity - ie workplaces, homes, maybe restaurants.
 
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Its not those out for a root. 9 news have just stated that 50% of people that are tested for covid-19 immediately go shopping afterwards, ie. BEFORE their test comes back. If thats not seriously deluded and selfish I don't know what is.
 
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Its not those out for a root. 9 news have just stated that 50% of people that are tested for covid-19 immediately go shopping afterwards, ie. BEFORE their test comes back. If thats not seriously deluded and selfish I don't know what is.

Yep, guess the thinking is "go shopping now in case I'm positive and have to stay home". Although maybe the good news is that shopping is probably lower risk than we thought.
 
Turns out Lee was wrong again.

https://www.news.com.au/world/coron...e/news-story/cb389440ca84946da4e2c25d121e766e

Throws his whole "young people bonking are to blame" theory down the toilet too.

Becoming clear it's prolonged exposure in confined spaces that is the riskiest activity - ie workplaces, homes, maybe restaurants.

Well the government's not going to *smile* well say "We let the cat out of the bag, we're sorry", are they? Of course they're going to say nobody got it from the protests.

All I said was the most important thing to a majority of young people is getting a root. They're dismissive of the risk of coronavirus because they know they're not going to die from it.
 
thanks. and how many of these are untraced? i believe as of yesterday it was 30?

"The number of coronavirus cases with no known source has skyrocketed in the past week as hundreds line up to get tested.
Infections that may have been acquired through community transmission jumped to 222 overnight, 12 more than yesterday and 38 higher than a week ago."

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader...a/news-story/8a4e836bf2cec46bcbd20349d9658c94 (paywalled)

Like I said, thanks to all the selfish tnucs out there. If it doesn't apply to you, don't worry about it.
 
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Well the government's not going to *smile* well say "We let the cat out of the bag, we're sorry", are they? Of course they're going to say nobody got it from the protests.

Yes, the good old "I reject any evidence that hurts my argument trick". Sure Lee, the government COVID19 trackers in both Labour and Liberal states in Australia are covering up to protect the BLM protests.

All I said was the most important thing to a majority of young people is getting a root. They're dismissive of the risk of coronavirus because they know they're not going to die from it.

I agree, it was a particularly lame attempt at a deflection on your part. Good to see you are backing away from it now. Looking forward to your next backpedal from your claim that "Republicans are more concerned about Coronavirus than democrats, hence lower infection rates in Rep. states".