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Good to see. I hope other very isolated towns can also open back up as well sooner rather than later.
That is not medical advice. It's political advice.
Medical advice is about risk/benefit to health. Overall the risk in opening schools is higher than the risk in not opening schools. It's that simple really.
The degree to which you are comfortable with that risk is the sticking point. The federal government has different vested interests to the states. And seeing as the federal government established during the bushfires that they will not take responsibility for anything that they believe falls under the states purview, and that if things go pear shaped they will heap all blame onto the states, then if the states are now saying they are not prepared to take a public health risk that they have control over, the federal government should keep their noses out of it.
School will return in the ACT on Tuesday, and will initially be entirely delivered via remote learning.
Term two is technically scheduled to begin on Monday in NSW, but two pupil-free school development days on April 27 and 28 means students won't return until Wednesday.
The NSW Government's plan is to stagger a return to face-to-face classroom teaching through five phases.
The term will begin in Phase 0, which will see all students encouraged to utilise remote learning from home wherever possible, though "no student will be turned away" from supervised school learning.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-21/coronavirus-return-for-nsw-schools-explained/12167826
Phase 1 will kick in on May 11, or the beginning of week three, and will require students to return to the classroom for one day a week. Each individual school will come up with its own plan for managing which groups of students come in on which days.
The Northern Territory started term two last Monday, and has largely been operating as business as usual.
Queensland schools also reopened last week, with remote learning currently in place for at least the first half of term two, until May 22.
Despite term two beginning on Monday in South Australia, teachers and students weren't entirely sure how schools would be operating their state until late last week, when the formal advice came that schools would be open and students should attend.
The school term will begin in Tasmania on Tuesday, and students have been encouraged to learn from home wherever possible.
Victorian schools have been open since April 14, and the Victorian Government has so far been firm in its stance that students must learn from home if at all possible.
When school resumes in WA on Wednesday, they will be open for any student to receive face-to-face teaching.
But the WA Government has said the choice to send children to school or not lies with families, and distance education packages and resources or online remote learning will be provided to any student who is kept home.
How schools in every state and territory will be handling coronavirus in term two
By the end of this week, all schools across Australia will have started term two, but in very different ways. Here's how every state and territory will be operating amid the coronavirus pandemic.
www.abc.net.au
your line on schools has been pretty wrong. about 3 states/territories are opening schools- the 3 with the least cases. Vic, ACT, NSW, Queensland and Tassie are all proceeding with caution, and will all start term 2 with kids at home, for at least the 1st 2 weeks.
what some label red tape, others label environmental protections, or worker protections, etc.
if you think those things arent important that is your right, but be careful listening to people trying to make money complaining about checks and balances put in place.
Nice to see you can address the actual issue. Every other state is bonkers to allow it. Surely they all look to Dan for guidance on such matters?
So basically the CMO of each state is a puppet? Except VIC because he's an expert.
And the VIC decision is nothing to do with Dan grandstanding? Given he is choosing different paths on this and other matters surely his decisions are politically motivated?
It's interesting, there couldn't have been more support for Adern about 5 weeks ago as the model of a strong leader in shutting everything down. We went a different less economically, socially and mentally damaging path and end up with better health results.
The VIC CMO completely ballsed up the Womens Cricket final and the Grand Prix. He's an expert but hosted 80K at the G in March and had his hand forced on the GP. Would have made the Ruby Princess insignificant. Then he wanted a full shut down like NZ. As VIC we have stronger restrictions, yet no tangible better numbers in terms of cases/deaths than other states. We have lower testing. Yet he is lauded. He's an expert. Love to know the metrics of these measures. Oh, I forgot he's a labour CMO.
Reckon he should worry about more testing where it really matters than constant grandstanding. Do your job Brett.
'Deeply concerning': COVID-19 cluster at aged care home linked to spike in Victorian cases
A coronavirus cluster has emerged at an aged care home in Melbourne's inner-east as the state records its highest number of new cases in more than a week.
Bull****. Almost all will all start some form of at school learning before VIC.
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A bizarre anomaly has some right-wingers championing the Swedish approach. Excluding quasi-nations, Sweden is 7th in the world for deaths : population ratio, even going by the rubbery official figures. The authorities' defence of "nursing homes are over-represented" is a feeble indictment.
The discrepancy is highlighted by a pro-socialist website's condemnation of Swedish policy.
Sweden forced to admit significant under-counting of coronavirus deaths
Interesting perspective which gives some insight into the Swedish psyche.
I Just Came Home to Sweden. I’m Horrified by the Coronavirus Response Here
Although we're currently living a version of the socialist dream with welfare payments doubled, we need to be very cautious about re-opening lest all gains are lost.
The discrepancy is highlighted by a pro-socialist website's condemnation of Swedish policy.
Sweden forced to admit significant under-counting of coronavirus deaths
Interesting perspective which gives some insight into the Swedish psyche.
I Just Came Home to Sweden. I’m Horrified by the Coronavirus Response Here
Although we're currently living a version of the socialist dream with welfare payments doubled, we need to be very cautious about re-opening lest all gains are lost.
To allow what? You've worked yourself into a nice middle aged white entitled male frenzy over this golf thing. Might be time to retire this login and start another again.
Gee, Dan Andrews' decisions are political. Hmm, let me thnk, what does this Dan Andrews do for a living? Umm, is he a welder, a taxidermist, jockey, does he work in finance? Hmm, no, I think I recall now - that's right he's a politician. Of course his decisions are political, this is what he does for a living. FFS next thing someone will tell me Scomo's decisions aren't political, if they're not, he's not doing his job.
In hindsight the Women's World Cup final shouldn't have gone ahead, then again, do we know how many (if any) infections occured as a result of that event. The Grand Prix was a farce caused by the Victorian Government trying to force F1 to stop the race as it saved them a large amount of money (undisclosed of course, this is the Grand Prix).
I don't think any country or state has made no mistakes. Some are worse than others, lot's are grandstanding, and Trump is the worst of all.
DS
In hindsight the Women's World Cup final shouldn't have gone ahead, then again, do we know how many (if any) infections occured as a result of that event. The Grand Prix was a farce caused by the Victorian Government trying to force F1 to stop the race as it saved them a large amount of money (undisclosed of course, this is the Grand Prix).
I don't think any country or state has made no mistakes. Some are worse than others, lot's are grandstanding, and Trump is the worst of all.
DS
Case count (8am)
3,300,665 cases
233,686 deaths (7.08%)
50,962 severe (2%)
1,978,685 mild (60%)
1,037,332 recovered (31%)
Comoros, an African island nation, is the first "new" country to be infected in 20 days. Most of the remaining ones are islands in the South Pacific.
3,300,665 cases
233,686 deaths (7.08%)
50,962 severe (2%)
1,978,685 mild (60%)
1,037,332 recovered (31%)
Comoros, an African island nation, is the first "new" country to be infected in 20 days. Most of the remaining ones are islands in the South Pacific.
Its worth noting Vic has had an uptick in cases the past couple of days which lends credence to a policy of being over cautious.
to be honest i dont know what are the 4000 requirements to.construct and operate a mine, but it doesnt sound extreme. It sounds detailed which is the modern life.
Similar would apply to most construction sites
Personnel safety
Emergency procedures
Fire (etc) certification
Training
Payroll super contracts etc
personnel amenities
Construction design
Environment- earth, groundwater, water streams, air, flora and fauna
Haz materials
Machinery for operation
Machinery for construction
Native land rights
transportation
police/security
.... the list goes on
Each would break down into multiple levels of requlations.
As an example the machinery compliance would include build and componemts/ materials used.
The windscreen on the excavators would comply to Australian Standard AS100 (or whatever).... specific australian grade glass that is sufficiently strong, shatter proof,
It is fair to say that there are a *smile* lot of rules and regulations which all require paperwork that needs to be completed and assessed before it starts.
Much of it straightforward and required to keep people safe
Yeah I can't see how these comments are in any way relevant or helpful in the world we are dealing with today. It just seems unnecessary grandstanding. Even a couple of prominent indigenous leaders are reported to be bemused by her comments.
It's a shame as she appears to be doing a great job in regards to the coronavirus effort in VIC and this could unfortunately detract from that. However I believe calls for her to resign are also unnecessary.
Well summed up. Calls to resign are OTT however I reckon Andrews will be all over her for those comments. Done her career no favours & only served to distract from the bigger picture.
Bull**** nothing. Victoria are not the only ones not following Morrison's 'advice'. Most others states have closed schools and will review in time, with plans to reopen subject to change. Vic schools will remain closed, subject to change.
If there was no risk all schools would be open today but they're not.
Your constant politicizing of this issue is quite disappointing.
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I worked in the fed public service and we were told very clearly, as public servants, we were not to post political opinions on our personal social media.
