Looks like NSW health were informed by the ship and said they were under no restrictions and just wanted them to send samples that had been tested to NSW health. Their "expert" panel are looking pretty stupid now.
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Looks like NSW health were informed by the ship and said they were under no restrictions and just wanted them to send samples that had been tested to NSW health. Their "expert" panel are looking pretty stupid now.
You reckon?
“Let’s cut to the chase,” he fires down the phone line, before even being asked a question. “They were warned 12 weeks ago by WHO [the World Health Organization] and others what was coming. They did not accumulate test kits. They did not accumulate the necessary emergency equipment. They did not undertake a public education campaign. They gave no money to science, no money to research, no money to the International Vaccine Institute, no money to WHO. They diligently did not do anything useful.”
Bowtell is an adjunct professor at the Kirby Institute for infection and immunity at the University of New South Wales. He was the architect of Australia’s world-leading response to the AIDS epidemic several decades ago. More recently, he worked for 15 years with the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria. He knows a bit about the insidious way diseases spread.
“I am deeply scared,” he says, twice, before substituting the more moderate word “concerned”. But the examples he cites are more than concerning: they are scary.
New coronavirus cases in Spain are growing exponentially. In Denmark, infections are up tenfold in a week. In Norway, up sixfold. Italy, where the authorities acted way too late, has had almost 36,000 confirmed cases and 3000 deaths.
In contrast, Bowtell and other public health experts point to a handful of nations – China, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong – that responded early and decisively and have succeeded in flattening the curve of infections, if not stopping the spread of Covid-19 almost completely. We should have been emulating them, says Bowtell, but instead Australia’s response to the plague has been more akin to Europe and America.
What Morrison did wrong on coronavirus
As the number of cases escalates, experts say the PM moved too slowly to contain the threat of Covid-19, straining our already under-resourced health system.www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au
I understand this post was a crack at the federal government. I am interested to know why the only one being blamed is Scomo.
Let’s cut to the chase,” he fires down the phone line, before even being asked a question. “They were warned 12 weeks ago by WHO [the World Health Organization] and others what was coming. They did not accumulate test kits. They did not accumulate the necessary emergency equipment. They did not undertake a public education campaign. They gave no money to science, no money to research, no money to the International Vaccine Institute, no money to WHO. They diligently did not do anything useful.”
So lets assume Dan the man was aware of this (like all government ministers would have been), 12 weeks prior to this interview. So say start of January he was aware of the magnitude.
Yet despite this information he proceeds to hold the t20 womens final with 80,000 in attendance and then says the grand prix is going ahead (300,000 attendees?) only for the drivers/teams to force the cancellation. And Dan is roundly praised for his sound leadership? These were monumental blunders if judging under the same principles.
IMO these decisions are far worse than any other yet, but all I hear is what an impressive speaker Dan is?
All it does is point out the hypocrisy of blind party faithfulness.
Really
Whistleblowing coronavirus doctor at Wuhan hospital mysteriously vanishes
A Chinese doctor who claimed her bosses tried to silence her early warnings about coronavirus appears to have disappeared — stirring fears that she was detained, according to new reports. Ai …nypost.com
This happened before Beijing stepped in, like I said.
The Wuhan officials were likely responding to what they thought were unconfirmed, fear-inducing information circulating on social media.
If the virus was confirmed, then that’s a different story.
And if doctors reported these cases privately, Beijing heard, and then acted to silence them... that would be a different story too.
I don’t think that’s what happened.
To think otherwise is to assume China wanted this to happen, isn’t it?
They are struggling, but open. Bars are closed.
Answer is all in this thread. Singapore locked down early. Temperature scanners everywhere, temperature being taken, population knew how to react and minimise the risk. SARS made them aware they needed a better response. H1N1 allowed them to test and fine-tune it. COVID-19 we're seeing it in action.
Watch the Foreign Correspondent piece that aired this week called "The Singapore Solution" and featured Dale Fisher, a leading infectious diseases expert and a fellow Aussie, who is the top man in the NUH (National University Hospital), the countries #1 research hospital.
In saying that there is an address to the nation in 20mins so we're expected lifting to DORSCON Red which is Singapore's highest response and we'll see full lockdown. But if the lock down is more that 3 weeks I'll be surprised. With a 2 week incubation they'd be betting the population will do the right thing for 3 weeks and push through the current wave.
He gets lucky a lot, almost like he has some sixth (common?) sense and good judgement.
Maybe its actually look at solving the question in front of you rather than trying to figure out you or your key constituents can leverage the situation to make a buck.
I'm sure we could've improvised in some way, but our govts are too dumb. My point has always been that because our figures aren't as disastrous as other countries, we could've had some relief to cope with. Social distancing just seems overly pedantic in some ways. The majority of deaths are from these cruise ships debacle. A Coles near me has started to play around with shoppers treating them like kids where they need to follow the red one way line on the floor.
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Without these measures I might not have a mum.
We're an incredibly adaptable and resilient species. When death is the alternative, we'll learn to cope.
You don't want your mum in here.
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Just heard people sunbaking at the beach on their own....no-one around.....can be fined. CCTV cameras now used to catch people not social distancing. Geez.....revenue raising's taken a new life....
7news.com.au
Line in the sand: Queensland police confirm sunbathers could face fines
The leisurely activity is not considered to be permitted under health directions aimed at stopping the spread of coronavirus.
7news.com.au
Have you ever considered that it's because of these measures that the numbers aren't as bad? That waiting for the numbers to be bad is way too late?
If you haven't, you should, because that's the crux of it all.
Good post.
The government has actively discouraged the population from wearing a mask not to benefit our health, but to handball the cost of their unpreparedness to Australians.
They had access to the data in early Jan.
I guess it’s possible most countries were clamouring for PPE at the same time and China wasn’t exporting to the same extent... is it possible there was little we could’ve done and everything else was just politics?
I flew back to Ireland, via Dubai, at the end of Feb. There was no visible screening or temperature checks in Aus, or Dubai or Ireland.
In a few aspects, maybe. We're not there yet.
- Everyone must stay local.
- People should only make physical contact with those that they live with.
- Takeaway services are closed.
- Groceries can be delivered, but not pre-cooked food.
- Weddings cannot go ahead.
- Funerals can continue, but only people from the same “self-isolation bubble” as the deceased person can go to the funeral home and cemetery, and only if they’re in the same region.
- Most medical consultations will be over the phone or by video conference.
It'd be better to do dob in a witch than have a man, ringing a bell, yelling "BRING OUT YOUR DEAD, BRING OUT YOUR DEAD"
Wasn’t though a directive of NSW not to inforce this so Border Security just let them go?
But they have to hold some fault her too, Border Security that is.
Pfft North Korea is Nil. Kim Jon Un just inhaled all airborne virus particles on behalf of his loyal subjects.
TF this will effect many many children.
There will be a spike of Children suffering from depression, anxiety , separation disorder etc .
My son & my sisters are going the same issues & Mum is finding it hard.
That’s why I’ve started to see my mum , observing all the things I have to after I self isolated myself from her. Not that I had symptoms just to protect her while I was still working.
Mum is all I have.
Kids understand.
Give them a little, not so tough of them, do some reading and exercise.
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