Connors

[Tiger_Shark]

i'm gonna be the devils advocate here.

while talented i feel with DC this talent could remain unfulfilled. i hope i am wrong. seriously i do. i would love to see him consistently in our best 22 and in our best players. and yes he is only young.

however, i would consider trading him if it meant getting a good deal

 

[IanG]

i'm gonna be the devils advocate here.

while talented i feel with DC this talent could remain unfulfilled. i hope i am wrong. seriously i do. i would love to see him consistently in our best 22 and in our best players. and yes he is only young.

however, i would consider trading him if it meant getting a good deal

I just watched the Hawthorn win today (thanks again tigerjoe) and I've got to say if fit Connors has to play whenever possible in the seniors next year he did some great things that game and can kick a goal. Someone said he could be a Steve Johnson type and I think I agree with that, only he's harder at it than Johnson. A hard at it extremely talented half forward rotating through the midfield. That would free up White to move into the backline and maybe become the back pocket we need.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Maybe I'm just paranoid :hihi I do have high expectations of the Condog.

I think most of us do benny because of his obvious ability but it's really up to him how far he takes it.
A couple of standouts in Lids, Cotch & possibly Riewoldt aside, Dan's got a far better football base than most youngsters on our list.
If it all clicks he could be the best late draft pick for many a year but that's no guarantee sure. He still has to do the yakka.

 

[benny_furs]

To pick a potential matchwinner at pick 58 we made the right choice even if it doesn't pay off.

I would really like someone to take over Nathan Brown's ability to single handedly win matches up forward.

When we're playing Prelims and Grannies in the future sometimes it does just come down to pure class and brilliance. Our depth looks fantastic - so much better than Carlton's, Essendon's or even St Kilda from 2005.

If Connors can be a serious class machine up forward and a superstar KPF emerges then I can't see us missing the finals too often in the future

Alternatively, if we could find a Brownlow quality midfielder I would be perfectly happy to play Brett as our modern day CHF. In the long run I think CHF is in his blood and our team will be built around Brett.

In that case, with Connors equalling the output of Stevie Johnson, Deledio revolutionising CHF and Cotchin one of the top 5 players in the comp... give us just one more absolute superstar midfielder and with our depth I'd back us to win more than 1 flag.

 

[Freezer]

Connors will be our Steve Johnson.

 

[BiddiscombeSkills]

Meh.

He's a coaster. All the talent in the world, and his big problem is that he relies on it to the exclusion of all else.

Plain, simple, hard work has won more games in the last hundred years than all the showpony antics and party tricks that were ever pulled out of the collective arses of the leagues flashiest players.

Connors doesn't seem to get this. I reckon he's believing his own press, running out onto the field thinking *smile* like: "hey I could be the next Steve Johnson, what with my freaky arse skills and all - now, if I hang back off my player enough, that'll give me the perfect run up to turn him into a step ladder and get my name on the mark of the year trophy! Yeah! Go team Connors! O'Doyle rules!"

Let's not make excuses for the kid, we've been accepting *smile* attitudes from our players for waaaaay too long between premierships finals appearances. It's time for Dan to get fit, learn to tackle, and generally make it to more than 5 contests before he's buggered. Hey, hard work pays off afterall. Ask Tucky, or Foley, or Matty White. Hell, even Ben Cousins managed to train his nads off between appointments with Sweet Lady H.

A full pre-season should leave Dan with nowhere to hide. Let's hope the penny drops. Until it does though....

Meh.

 

[Freezer]

Meh.

He's a coaster. All the talent in the world, and his big problem is that he relies on it to the exclusion of all else.

Plain, simple, hard work has won more games in the last hundred years than all the showpony antics and party tricks that were ever pulled out of the collective arses of the leagues flashiest players.

Connors doesn't seem to get this. I reckon he's believing his own press, running out onto the field thinking sh!t like: "hey I could be the next Steve Johnson, what with my freaky arse skills and all - now, if I hang back off my player enough, that'll give me the perfect run up to turn him into a step ladder and get my name on the mark of the year trophy! Yeah! Go team Connors! O'Doyle rules!"

Let's not make excuses for the kid, we've been accepting *smile* attitudes from our players for waaaaay too long between premierships finals appearances. It's time for Dan to get fit, learn to tackle, and generally make it to more than 5 contests before he's buggered. Hey, hard work pays off afterall. Ask Tucky, or Foley, or Matty White. Hell, even Ben Cousins managed to train his nads off between appointments with Sweet Lady H.

A full pre-season should leave Dan with nowhere to hide. Let's hope the penny drops. Until it does though....

Meh.

Johnson's life story.

 

[tigertim]

I think you are misinterpreting my stance here, Daniel will be a star for this club and I have all the patience in the world for him!

It just seems weird how we are so forgiving of our player's flaws when they are under 20, then most of us quickly turn on them.

Andrew Raines was hailed only 18 months ago. His kicking was just as bad in 2006 as it was last year, the only thing that changed was the honeymoon ended.

Jake King was a love-child back in Round 4, but eventually we couldn't tolerate his kicking anymore and now we want him delisted too. His kicking didn't get worse, we just noticed it more.

Bretn Hartigan was a "great young player" and we ignored his foot skills too. He got delisted last year. On the other hand, Shane Tuck is a player we turned on who went away, worked on his skills, then burst out as a gun again this year.



At his best, Connors is a far better kick than all of these players.

I just really hope he eliminates his worst otherwise his kicking will be... and I HATE to say this... but his one-sided "fantastic left foot" with the "occassional brain fades and errors" in his kicking reminds me of a certain recent retiree :-X

Remember how in 2001 we thought Tivendale was one of the best kicks in the league? Well I do.

I'm just worried about a couple of early signs that Daniel could go the same way.

Maybe I'm just paranoid :hihi I do have high expectations of the Condog.

I may be paraphrasing you but you make a very valid point Benny when you say we put our young uns up on a pedastal as the answer to all our woes, as do all other clubs. We tend to ignore their shortcomings (except for some darksiders who all they see is shortcomings!) and then after the said honeymoon period (when we realise they aren't going to be Chris Judd mk2) we then aknowledge their shortfalls. I know I've done it myself with some players.

Having said that I don't think Connors is in the same boat as Raines/Hartigan/King/Zantuck/Tiv (Tiv btw had the skills but always thought that he had to bullet pass everything, soemthing he did all thorugh his career). I think with Dan it's more to do with his approach/attitude to the requirements of being a good AFL player. I hope that this is easier to fix than a skill deficiency!

 

[ZeroGame]

Meh.

He's a coaster. All the talent in the world, and his big problem is that he relies on it to the exclusion of all else.

Plain, simple, hard work has won more games in the last hundred years than all the showpony antics and party tricks that were ever pulled out of the collective arses of the leagues flashiest players.

Connors doesn't seem to get this. I reckon he's believing his own press, running out onto the field thinking sh!t like: "hey I could be the next Steve Johnson, what with my freaky arse skills and all - now, if I hang back off my player enough, that'll give me the perfect run up to turn him into a step ladder and get my name on the mark of the year trophy! Yeah! Go team Connors! O'Doyle rules!"

Let's not make excuses for the kid, we've been accepting *smile* attitudes from our players for waaaaay too long between premierships finals appearances. It's time for Dan to get fit, learn to tackle, and generally make it to more than 5 contests before he's buggered. Hey, hard work pays off afterall. Ask Tucky, or Foley, or Matty White. Hell, even Ben Cousins managed to train his nads off between appointments with Sweet Lady H.

A full pre-season should leave Dan with nowhere to hide. Let's hope the penny drops. Until it does though....

Meh.

Disagree, the guy has only played 8 games yet in his 2nd match he had 25 disposals. This year every game he has had double digit disposal counts and in 2008 he averaged 14.5 disposals, 3 marks and over a goal per game. You can't get this much ball by being an unfit slacker, he must at least be working to get to the right places on the ground in the limited game time that he's getting.

 

[Leysy Days]

Meh.

He's a coaster. All the talent in the world, and his big problem is that he relies on it to the exclusion of all else.

Plain, simple, hard work has won more games in the last hundred years than all the showpony antics and party tricks that were ever pulled out of the collective arses of the leagues flashiest players.

Connors doesn't seem to get this. I reckon he's believing his own press, running out onto the field thinking sh!t like: "hey I could be the next Steve Johnson, what with my freaky arse skills and all - now, if I hang back off my player enough, that'll give me the perfect run up to turn him into a step ladder and get my name on the mark of the year trophy! Yeah! Go team Connors! O'Doyle rules!"

Let's not make excuses for the kid, we've been accepting *smile* attitudes from our players for waaaaay too long between premierships finals appearances. It's time for Dan to get fit, learn to tackle, and generally make it to more than 5 contests before he's buggered. Hey, hard work pays off afterall. Ask Tucky, or Foley, or Matty White. Hell, even Ben Cousins managed to train his nads off between appointments with Sweet Lady H.

A full pre-season should leave Dan with nowhere to hide. Let's hope the penny drops. Until it does though....

Meh.

To re-iterate zerogame. You mention White. Connors is two years White's junior yet already gets more of the ball than him.

Yet, Matt's meant to work hard (which he does) & Dans allegedly sits back trying to take speccies all game.

 

[TOT70]

A good pre-season and Connors will give the Rising Star award a real nudge next year.

He'll lose interest in trying to win the Goal of the Year and Mark of the Year awards once he has a couple of each in his cabinet. HE will be a seriously good player in two of three years time.

 

[Baloo]

I sometimes wonder if Connors was indigenous whether people would still be calling for him to stop show boating.

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

Players like Connors is reasons why i look foward to next season.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I sometimes wonder if Connors was indigenous whether people would still be calling for him to stop show boating.

Most perceptive of you Balooga.

 

[Tigerbob]

With Daniel Connors it all depends on his pre season.

If he stays injury free he will get the necessary fitness base and strenght to play week in week out at the highest level.

All things considering, he will develop into a matchwinner for us, a spasmodic one, but one non the less. At draft pick 58 thats more than we can ask.

I see Mitch Morton as our Steve Johnson type, and he is another player that needs to get on his bike this pre season. If he builds a fitness base and some more strenght it will make our forward line that much better.

Both these players are capable of magic, and being match winners. Alas with these type of players though, you have to take the brilliant with the horrendous.

With Daniel Connors, Jack Riewoldt and Mitch Morton we have a very good base to build a very dangerous forward line.

 

[ROLLS ROYCE]

Dont think Mitch Morton is the Steve Johnson type at all.
Conners, on the other hand could prove to be...let;s keep our fingers crossed.

 

[Harry]

Lazy drunk. Delist.

 

[Freezer]

Lazy drunk. Delist.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

 

[the claw]

I sometimes wonder if Connors was indigenous whether people would still be calling for him to stop show boating.

now thats a good point and as much as i would like to add to this i will refrain. most on here think im the grand poo bah of the kkk as it is.

 

[Tiger_Shark]

I just watched the Hawthorn win today (thanks again tigerjoe) and I've got to say if fit Connors has to play whenever possible in the seniors next year he did some great things that game and can kick a goal. Someone said he could be a Steve Johnson type and I think I agree with that, only he's harder at it than Johnson. A hard at it extremely talented half forward rotating through the midfield. That would free up White to move into the backline and maybe become the back pocket we need.

if & could. this is no definite.

DC may be telling his mates if & could down the pub in 10 yrs time.

smarten up & work hard, otherwise the opportunity may disappear sooner than you think. talent only gets you so far.

you can end up with the "Phil Carmen story" where your talent remains unfulfilled or the "Andre Agassi story" where you get the most out of your talent.

DC its entirely your choice.

i sincerely hope DC sits down and evaluates where he's at and writes down some serious goals for next year such as:

- Play all 22 games
- Top 10 in B & F
- Kick 30+ goals
- Play Finals footy (with the RFC)

these are just ba few examples.

i hope he has a great pre-season. maybe team him with a hard worker (Axel). and i hope he comes out and performs well next year.

Fingers crossed.