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Bye Bye Jack Higgins!

Rumours are they're offering a future second and third round pick for Higgins.
No way. Minimum would be a swap of 1st rd picks and a future 2nd. Saints made the approach to a contracted player. Pay up or jam it.
 
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Would you take that General?
No. I'd make him stay and play next year for that. He can enhance his value, or go for nothing. Which will be not much worse than what is on offer in my opinion. How about yourself?
 
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No. I'd make him stay and play next year for that. He can enhance his value, or go for nothing. Which will be not much worse than what is on offer in my opinion. How about yourself?
Definitely keep. He will be needed at some stage next year so will play some games - he should back himself in to keep his spot. I reckon there is a subtle industry push to under rate our players so we don't get even stronger with better picks in the draft.

I know the topic has been done to death but pick 8 for a flanker that is suspect one on one but loves to bounce the ball 5 times within 15 metres then blaze it long for a turnover absolutely amazes me. I don't think some sections of the media, or even list managers for that matter actually watch a lot of football.
 
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No. I'd make him stay and play next year for that. He can enhance his value, or go for nothing. Which will be not much worse than what is on offer in my opinion. How about yourself?
Agree General.
We make a stand. No trade.

Now either he :

Knuckles down has a ripper pre season and plays a great season and whatever that brings for him and the Tigers.
If he then requests a trade , his value has gone up, a few more clubs are interested, we get a better pick and his pay day has just gone up ..
He may even decide I want to stay with this club & team mates and gets a contract extension.

If he sooks it up and spends the year in the VFL not only will he jeopardise his career with the Tigers but possibly an AFL career & $$$.

Hope the Tigers stay firm . I’ve said it before and I know there are others who agree.
 
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When that cliff comes .................................................Delicious.
They are an old team. If it goes back to 20min qtrs and 23 games they will cop significant injuries.

if u were wondering why SHocking is going to keep 16min qtrs when the rest of the clubs want 20min qtrs next year it’s easy to figure out
 
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No way. Minimum would be a swap of 1st rd picks and a future 2nd. Saints made the approach to a contracted player. Pay up or jam it.
On the AFL points system their future 2nd and 3rd picks would be worth more points than your swap proposal, however if I understand correctly Saints don't have a 2nd or 3rd round pick this year?, doubt they would want to be out of both 2nd and 3rd rounds next year in a less compromised draft so think the swap proposal may suit both parties better unless Saints hold fast on future 2nd only.
 
I don't think Jack has come back the same player after a life threatening condition. I just hope it is physically right and fitting for him to keep playing, wherever that may be.
Was a serious op with risks but the expectation was always that he would make a full recovery if it went to plan. He did return a lot sooner than expected though, so maybe that was a factor in his numbers being a little down.

Back half of the 2017 first round:

#
PlayerClub
Gms
Age
10​
O'BrienCa
36​
21y 54d
11​
BonarGWS
12​
21y248d
12​
FogartyAd
24​
21y 47d
13​
BranderWC
11​
21y274d
14​
LingSy
3​
21y204d
15​
BaileyBr
46​
21y 49d
16​
RichardsWB
58​
21y131d
17​
HigginsRi
43​
21y237d
18​
StarcevichBr
23​
21y110d
19​
PowellGC
35​
21y 77d
AVERAGE
29.1​
21y143d

Probably only Bailey (9th b&f) clearly ahead of him at present. It's great that he's in a hurry but he already has a final under his belt and 40 games in the competition's best system. Plus a GOTY...

Reckon we're being hoodwinked after a predictable lull in his development. He's contracted, St.Kilda should be required to offer overs.
 
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I don't mind him going. He's definitely got some tricks but at the end of the day he's slow, short and can't kick more than 40m
 
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Kicked the most creative goal I have ever seen.

Is as clean as Prestia, and has unparalleled anticipation and instincts.

Makes up for any lack of toe by being two steps ahead of everyone else.

Keep or two first rounders.
 
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Was a serious op with risks but the expectation was always that he would make a full recovery if it went to plan. He did return a lot sooner than expected though, so maybe that was a factor in his numbers being a little down.

Back half of the 2017 first round:

#
PlayerClub
Gms
Age
10​
O'BrienCa
36​
21y 54d
11​
BonarGWS
12​
21y248d
12​
FogartyAd
24​
21y 47d
13​
BranderWC
11​
21y274d
14​
LingSy
3​
21y204d
15​
BaileyBr
46​
21y 49d
16​
RichardsWB
58​
21y131d
17​
HigginsRi
43​
21y237d
18​
StarcevichBr
23​
21y110d
19​
PowellGC
35​
21y 77d
AVERAGE
29.1​
21y143d

Probably only Bailey (9th b&f) clearly ahead of him at present. It's great that he's in a hurry but he already has a final under his belt and 40 games in the competition's best system. Plus a GOTY...

Reckon we're being hoodwinked after a predictable lull in his development. He's contracted, St.Kilda should be required to offer overs.
Starcevich is going to be good player IMO
 
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Kicked the most creative goal I have ever seen.

Is as clean as Prestia, and has unparalleled anticipation and instincts.

Makes up for any lack of toe by being two steps ahead of everyone else.

Keep or two first rounders.
Surprised he ever got dropped
 
our recent record with round 1 picks isn’t good.
Take a rookie pick
 
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So future 2nd and 3rd is about pick 23 - 24 in total value after compensation picks and assuming a roughly similar ladder finish.

Do we really need multiple late second and third round picks? Not a high turnover atm + list sizes going down. Trading up the draft order is usually Pyrrhic.

We will have midfield injuries and Ross is only just cutting it (all hate Fyfe) and RCD and Dow are still completely unproven. George and Daniel aren't exactly blowing them away either so opportunities exist.

So lets stand pat and put St Kilda on the end of the long finger.
 
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Starcevich is going to be good player IMO
Was excellent against us in the final and ended Aarts' year. I like Powell as well. Different players but I wouldn't put either ahead of Higgins on total output. Ability to find the ball in the front half rates higher. Richards has impressed at times but critics say he doesn't get enough of it, and he gets it less than Higgins.
 
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He wants out.
We have the upper hand here.
Trade him to North for pick 11
 
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