Brett Deledio (merged)

[Sir]

You really can justify anything can't you sir, what an embarrassment.

Perhaps. However my sentence structure is normally adequate

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Lid,s performing in front of one of his preferred destinations.nahhhhhhhhhhhh surely not ;D

 

[IanG]

When people write vitriolic comments about me - what do they know?

They know that their opinion is different - THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW.

Its not a matter of a different opinion its the fact that you abused him. If you engaged in reasoned criticism it would be different.

It doesn't at all infer that "I'm ignorant about the game" - otherwise how do you explain the countless others who see exactly what I see?? (perhaps JINX explains it more eloquently than me?)

Countless? Looks like 4-5 to me.

Then again in your case we might determine that 5700+ posts would suggest that you need to get a life, and the fact that you are personally attacking others on football forums rather than engaging in real life is due to an inherent inability to do so.

You're just proving my point.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Today was an important day in Lid's development IMO.

He has never before shown the desire to play on a bloke like Judd. Today he will have shown not only himself but also the coaching staff that he can go head to head with the very best.

From now on if Lids is getting the heavy tag he can be moved onto the opposition's best player. His ability to nullify Judd at the stoppages was first rate and showed a real desire to get the job done.

The true A graders can beat the very best.

u hit it right on the head, i read some comments on this thread and i just think what the hell are u saying, judd was tearing us up early then jade put lids on him, and not only did lids nullify him he beat him, he made judd accountable for him and judd didn’t play him close enough, even the panel on the footy show today had lids 2nd best behind fev....

 

[AstuteTiger]

Interesting to hear Buckley saying he's getting by on pure ability at the moment. Clearly doesn't think he works hard enough.

THEN GO AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BUCKS...!!!

Perhaps freezer u should make ur own assumption, last week against the crows he and bling ran the most 544 and 542 meters respectively...
Yesterday the most meters gained were Cousins 637, Judd 570....Deledio 1 meter behind Judd on 569 and then Jackson on 556, if that aint extending urself on the ground then ill go he!

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Cannot agree today.

Sometimes the label sticks, today teh perception on Deledio is wrong.

The same blokes in the media knocking him on one hand are talking up Judd with the other hand.

Imbeciles.

Deledio worked very hard today, both ways too.

Exactly TB lids worked damn hard off the ball as well, should the media jump on Judd cause he didn’t work hard enough the other way on Lids...
Hypocrites the media

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Wow, 11 possession contested possessions with his disposal? That's pretty close to elite. Good call Plough.

the thing is Col, some of the nuffs actually i think its just 1 but wont embarrassment this poster anymore as he is making a fool of himself with the stupidity of his posts, last year in 08' the top 3 hard ball gets at RFC were "in order" Tuck, Foley and Deledio..
This year those 3 are joined by Jackson, yesterday after coming home from the game and reading some of the posters comments i thought how the *smile* can u say he's possies are soft, most weeks more times then not he wins his own ball, yesterday 11 hard ball gets 2nd most on the entire ground, Judd had 12....Even last year he won the army reserve award for most courageous play/act in a contest.

What annoys me is some posters who dont do there home work when posting like being soft or this beauty which belongs in the gold post by "Sir" as said lids most possessions are ineffective, he said 15 per week, this imposter should be shamed for his stupid posts...

 

[AstuteTiger]

Was excellent in the 2nd half particularly.

Actually close to brilliant all day oldie, carved up Gibbs and then beat Judd, 29 possies but its what he does with the ball when its in his hands which makes him elite, not many people mentioning those 2 goals from him they weren’t just directly in front of goals both were 55 meters out and he drilled them both...

 

[Lidsand]

Actually close to brilliant all day oldie, carved up Gibbs and then beat Judd, 29 possies but its what he does with the ball when its in his hands which makes him elite, not many people mentioning those 2 goals from him they weren’t just directly in front of goals both were 55 meters out and he drilled them both...

60 actually

 

[AstuteTiger]

Geez, is everyone here so blind?

The argument here isn't what Deledio does with the ball, but what he does off it. He simply doesn't work hard enough off the ball.

No 99.9% of people on here are not blind, perhaps the 0.01% are blind which u are in that category....so ur saying he hasn’t ran hard enough of late, yesterday was in the top 3 for most meters gained, 1 meter behind Judd who was 2nd behind Cuz...Last week Lids ran the 2nd most on the ground meters gained, that’s running hard both ways but hey u didn’t know that or understand that....You wanna have a go at a player its ur right but u better be prepared for the majority of posters who saw the game as like the herald sun and age plus the footy panel today who applauded his game, most votes on PRE are for Cuz and Lids, why cause they were the best...

 

[AstuteTiger]

How come heaps of other AFL midfielders can do both?

You're excepting mediocrity.

"oh, he's tired because he wins some contested ball. This excuses him from doing anything else out there, absolutely".

Think of what you're saying. There are players out there who go in harder than Deledio - with the same or less athletic fitness - who are capable of sustaining a defensive side to their game in many areas.

he has ran hard both ways has he done it all the time id say no, but Wallace playing him fwd, back, wing and at times on ball basically all over the shop hasn’t allowed lids to build a core running base, how do u build a tank if you’re not on ball all the time, lets say cuz or judd played 3 out of 4 qtrs in the fwd or backline do u think they would be gut runners for an entire game? For the 1st time in years ive seen Lids play on ball from the start, yes his skills are sublime, wins his own ball, kicks goals but one thing i also admit is at times needs to run harder but in saying that we have to understand that u can only build an elite tank by playing on ball for the majority of the game....You build a tank over time...I played footy for over 10 years and unless ur running around on the ball pretty much all day week in week out its damn hard to build that base in game days, training yeah u can run and u feel great but under game conditions u need that continuity on the ball and in all honesty Lids hasn’t had that especially with Wallace...

 

[AstuteTiger]

He was good when matched against Chris Judd & Bryce Gibbs yesterday.

Too right he was, but hey those few posters who have had digs at him should acknowledge that he beat 2 of Carlton’s best midfielders...

 

[AstuteTiger]

I did see that Cotch. IMO Lids had one of his best games of the season, keeping that show-pony Judd to a limited influence on the match in the second half, and racking up effective disposals whilst kicking goals of his own. I think that each week he takes another small step in the road to him becoming an elite midfielder, and I think that yesterday's game simply proves why Gerard Healy's comments were so ludicrous. Healy stated that he should not be playing as a midfielder, but rather as a loose half-back or as a half-forward, how wrong he is.

Hit it right on the head, well observed...Judd at least 2 to 3 times kicked the ball straight into the hands of a Richmond player, judd was credited with 4 changers but it was more like 6....

On some of the posters who say he doesn’t gut run enough do Gibbs and murphy gut run, they aren’t typically known as gut runners, so are they not elite cause they cant run as hard and long as Judd.

 

[AstuteTiger]

The reason why Deledio's game was so good yesterday was his work off the ball.

I suspect you might need to watch the game again. Check out his defensive work on Judd at the stoppages in the second half. It was first rate.
Blokes like Judd do not magically have an average half of footy, especially when they have been on fire in the first half.

We have been terrible defensively at the stoppages all year. If Lids can continue with his work from yesterday we will see dramatic improvement.

Someone is now working well with the young mids.

Is it Campbell or Cousins?

Hooray! I was watching closely the duel of the mids like i do most times, Jackson V Judd then Lids V Judd, White V Murphy, King who im not a fan of V simpson and in the first qtr and a half Lids V Gibbs..

Lids especially on Judd i was watching him working hard off the ball with his body not allowing judd to free run off him sure once or twice judd got free but hey so did lids, to say he wasn’t working hard off the ball is plain wrong, i thought this was his strength yesterday and ran hard both ways, its amazing that 99% of people saw it like it was, it wasn’t that hard to not notice what was going on, hard for some i might say but even the commentators and papers saw it like it was that lids had a great game on arguably one of the best midfielders ever to take the field, that it itself should have even the doubters due respect to lids game, he didn’t just play on any joe blow he played on Judd and beat him...

 

[AstuteTiger]

Sorry buddy, but I guess you didn't watch the game closely either.Not having a go at you here, but merley just giving you facts. Richmond have a point system in what they call Damage points-team orientated acts- similar to super coach scoring system. Lids was rated in the top 5 yesterday(within the team), showing that he was blocking/sheparding etc..all the 1%, So to say he is not working hard enough off the ball is either a) You personally don't like the player b) You're clearly not looking out for these 1%.

Im more to thinking that the Jinxster has no idea WL, how he can make some of those points which are factually wrong that’s why im arm in arms with some of these posters because i aint just posting crap im backing it up with facts and figures and so are other posters.

 

[White Lightning]

Like I said - footyb forums are a strange place.


I'm able to comment on footballers for a range of reasons:

- firstly we get to watch them week in week out (making appropriate comparisons about their performance against not only their peers but also their competitors!)
- we get to research them
- we know their entire physical history
- we learn much about their mental strengths/weaknesses
- as a paid up member I'm entitled to voice opinion on the player (employee) performance as you would in any poorly performing company/club/electorate etc etc



Not when you don't know the facts, you can't make that judgement. When you do have all the facts in front of you, then, only then can you make a judgement... otherwise it's just a naive opinion

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Yup. Very close to his best game yesterday. Thought it was an interesting decision by Jade Richardson to move him onto Judd in the second half. Turned out to be inspired. Well done Lids.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Actually close to brilliant all day oldie, carved up Gibbs and then beat Judd, 29 possies but its what he does with the ball when its in his hands which makes him elite, not many people mentioning those 2 goals from him they weren’t just directly in front of goals both were 55 meters out and he drilled them both...

Sure he was good against Gibbs but Judd is the measuring stick.

I think a lot aren't realising that because he is now playing on the ball more, it's more taxing on his fitness. He'll get better on that front.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Like I said - footyb forums are a strange place.

They know that their opinion is different - THAT IS ALL THEY KNOW.

It doesn't at all infer that "I'm ignorant about the game" - otherwise how do you explain the countless others who see exactly what I see?? (perhaps JINX explains it more eloquently than me?)

Then again in your case we might determine that 5700+ posts would suggest that you need to get a life, and the fact that you are personally attacking others on football forums rather than engaging in real life is due to an inherent inability to do so.

Opinions are one thing facts and figures are another, and to say that Jinx puts it eloquently shows ur ignorance to his game, have u not read what posters are saying its not like they’re making up all these stats its there for all to see in black and white plus 99% of posters who were their or saw it on TV are in unison and u who gets into lids most weeks even his goods games is beyond belief....

 

[White Lightning]

Im more to thinking that the Jinxster has no idea WL, how he can make some of those points which are factually wrong that’s why im arm in arms with some of these posters because i aint just posting crap im backing it up with facts and figures and so are other posters.

Well AT, I am of the assumption the Jinxter has a personal issue with Lids. ;D