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Brett Deledio (merged)

GoodOne said:
Not really. Deledio has been our best performed youngster over the last 4 years. He has performed remarkably well without alot of support that a player of his calibre might get at other clubs.

correct goodone, to win the NAB rising star in his 1st year and to win a B&F in his fourth is testament to his continued improvement/performance since 05'.
 
thejinx said:
And speaking of elequent, maybe you should start with getting your grammar right before throwing mud - "Eloquently is more suited to someone like Disco8"??? Cmon...

I don't think we need any comment on grammar, punctuation or eloquency at all. This is a good discussion that shouldn't be spoilt by such or personal insults. People are bound to have differing viewpoints and the ability to discuss these is what makes forums like this a great place to hang out. :)
 
gustiger12 said:
Who is this Brett Delidio bloke, must be a bloody Dud whoever he is. Surely so many people can't be wrong :eek:

ahh yeah Gus goes alright the young lad and 99.99% of people agree, sure like those odds...
 
AstuteTiger said:
I cant even believe i am engaging in such pettiness with you, you are bringing me down to ur level...Im happy to talk shop on footy but ur last paragraph trying to deflect the overall debate to grammar is a cheap shot...

Ahhh, pretty sure you started the cheapshots by saying I wasn't 'eloquent'.

I'm happy to agree to disagree without resorting to the above, but you might want to re-read your own posts before blaming me for starting cheapshots.
 
AstuteTiger said:
u honestly think cooney was the best player last year regardless of his charlie, richo or ablett were the more appropriate to win the brownlow and perhaps well not perhaps 100% fact ablett missing 4 games and richo 2 or 3 were the reasons that set them back a few votes which IMO wouldve won them the brownlow instead...all history now but just making a point...

BTW, hows cooney going this year, has he improved from last year, is he ripping it up?

Mate, did I ever say Cooney was the best player? No.

But Cooney is definitely an appropriate benchmark, and one that Deledio falls short by comparison.
 
AstuteTiger said:
correct goodone, to win the NAB rising star in his 1st year and to win a B&F in his fourth is testament to his continued improvement/performance since 05'.

Correct, he won the NAB Rising Star and I was ecstatic with his efforts in his first, even second and third years. But he does not put the consistent 100% effort required to be a superstar in this league.

And yes, he won a Richmond B&F but that's hardly an acheivement these days.
 
GoodOne said:
Regardless I don't really care who plays the better game on any given day as long as they work for each other as a team and give their all and be consistent and true to themselves. That's a key ingredient for success. Personal accolades are secondary.

Agree completely. This is my major gripe. Our guys don't run hard enough off the ball and therefore don't work hard enough for each other.
 
Disco08 said:
I don't think we need any comment on grammar, punctuation or eloquency at all. This is a good discussion that shouldn't be spoilt by such or personal insults. People are bound to have differing viewpoints and the ability to discuss these is what makes forums like this a great place to hang out. :)

I agree - maybe you should direct that post at AstuteTiger who said that my post was 'hardly eloquent'.

Apologies for the multiple posts - just trying to respond to everything!

Don't get me wrong guys, I don't think Deledio is a dud, nor am I saying he won't improve or can't be a champion. What I am saying is that he has a fair way to go effort wise before he'll become an elite of the game. And that is a title that he is more than capable of achieving.
 
thejinx said:
That's why I'm comparing this years Deledio to last years Cooney. Or even the Cooney of 07.

Put Cooney in the Richmond side and he suddenly looks less impressive. Vice versa for Deledio.

At barely 22, Deledio has been the fourth most experienced player in the side for the past month. He's carrying a fair burden.
 
AstuteTiger said:
U2 strange post in that ur backing bling after 6 or 7 games and mind u bling has turned his game full circle and i applaud him...and not being convinced on lids, we've had our posting battles and to this day i still dont think u gave him due credit for his year in 08, consistent week in week out and deserving of his B&F...

This year, U2 he has been consistent and i back it uop below, perhaps not in the vain of last year but he has been more consistent than not apart from a few games 2 X dogs and the saints game too and maybe another one just for the sake of saying another one, so he has been more consistent than not...

Below i have put his best games (9 games) as mentioned above 3 or 4 average and another 2 but ill have them in the 50/50 basket, ok games i must say but not great or like the below 9 but these games below were his best, take note also lids being tagged most weeks, he beat ling, rawlings, k.Cornes, adam selwood and power/sherman this is testament to him working hard to beating the tag placed on him which he is doing and some posters clearly ignoring this, again the facts are there to see...

Season Highlights - 2009


29 disps (14 kicks 15 hballs) and 2 goals in Rd 15 20-pt loss to Carlton at the MCG (11 Jul 2009)



31 disps (10 kicks 21 hballs) and a goal in Rd 14 17-pt loss to Adelaide at Gold Coast Stadium (4 Jul 2009)



23 disps (11 kicks 12 hballs), 11 marks and a goal in Rd 12 15-pt win over West Coast at Etihad Stadium (13 Jun 2009)



27 disps (13 kicks 14 hballs), 10 marks and 2 goals in Rd 10 3-pt win over Fremantle at Subiaco (30 May 2009)



20 disps (14 kicks 6 hballs), 8 marks and 4 tackles in Rd 8 3-pt loss to Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium (17 May 2009)



30 disps (14 kicks 16 hballs), 6 marks, 4 tackles and a goal in Rd 7 26-pt loss to Brisbane at the MCG (9 May 2009)



25 disps (14 kicks 11 hballs) and a goal in Rd 5 36-pt win over North Melbourne at Etihad Stadium (25 Apr 2009)



30 disps (15 kicks 15 hballs), 8 marks and a goal in Rd 2 20-pt loss to Geelong at Skilled Stadium (4 Apr 2009)


           21 disposals, 4 tackles, 5 inside 50's & 105 Super Coach points, loss to Sydney at the SCG (RD 6, 3rd May 2009)

I won't post stats - I honestly post without trying to provoke , am just posting my opinion of what I feel and see. I am due to our ongoing debate trying to look closer at Lids game. I am just saying what I see.

Our opinions do differ thats for sure - last week in the GC - you gave Lids votes over Tambling - I honestly couldn't even think to, and I'm sure a lot would agree that Tambling was by a fair distance the better player last week.I've said it before - a little has to do that i expect more from lids than most of our list.

And IMO Tambling so far may just get that best and fairest like Lids did last year if he can continue the level of the last 6-8 weeks.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Put Cooney in the Richmond side and he suddenly looks less impressive. Vice versa for Deledio.

At barely 22, Deledio has been the fourth most experienced player in the side for the past month. He's carrying a fair burden.

I do agree with this statement.

but he is a Tiger so we go off what we have.
 
thejinx said:
Ahhh, pretty sure you started the cheapshots by saying I wasn't 'eloquent'.

I'm happy to agree to disagree without resorting to the above, but you might want to re-read your own posts before blaming me for starting cheapshots.

serious are u a baby, Sir said in his post u explained it eloquently...
I simply replied LMFAO, jinxster explaining it more eloquently, that is a joke eh?
So its alright for you to down disco08' with "Eloquently is more suited to someone like Disco8" ??? Cmon
But not alright for me, figures...and what is read my own posts before blaming you, i blame no one for anything i simply said you had a go about my grammer and i said it was a cheap shot, how sad is that...
 
thejinx said:
Correct, he won the NAB Rising Star and I was ecstatic with his efforts in his first, even second and third years. But he does not put the consistent 100% effort required to be a superstar in this league.

And yes, he won a Richmond B&F but that's hardly an acheivement these days.

says who! you? fair dinkum if u think winning the B&F at 21 isnt an achievment then lets just leave this debate here, cause ur digging urself deeper and deeper.
 
U2Tigers said:
I won't post stats - I honestly post without trying to provoke , am just posting my opinion of what I feel and see. I am due to our ongoing debate trying to look closer at Lids game. I am just saying what I see.

Our opinions do differ thats for sure - last week in the GC - you gave Lids votes over Tambling - I honestly couldn't even think to, and I'm sure a lot would agree that Tambling was by a fair distance the better player last week.I've said it before - a little has to do that i expect more from lids than most of our list.

And IMO Tambling so far may just get that best and fairest like Lids did last year if he can continue the level of the last 6-8 weeks.

well providing stats counters ur posts with "im just posting an opinion", its facts u said he has been inconsistent i reply with facts that counters what u say, its all there to see.....On my votes last week well i mentioned that both had 31 possies last week V the crows and i did say it was a toss up, lids had the 3rd most votes last week behind bling and nanas on PRE, so ineffect i was right that he was in the top 3 and its not a matter whether i gave him, 3, 2 or 1 most gave him votes but u didnt last week so what am i supposed to say about that, majority inc you gave him votes yesterday some didnt even give him votes extrodinary to think that no one gave him votes, dont u think?, so id like to see your posts regarding these posters who didnt give him votes, name em.

If bling won the B&F on his continued form mate id be rapt for him, but hey perhaps u should also give lids his due credit on winning it last year.
 
AstuteTiger said:
So its alright for you to down disco08' with "Eloquently is more suited to someone like Disco8" ??? Cmon

I wasn't downing Disco08 at all... I was referring to your grammar - yes, silly I know, and I shouldn't have stooped to your level. But I certainly wasn't having a dig at Disco08.

And yes, I don't rate the Richmond B&F at all. It awards the best of an average lot.

Who came second in last years B&F? Tuck. Although a solid performer, he's certainly not an 'elite'.

There are a few other average names on the Jack Dyer Medal roll - Kane Johnson, Darren Gaspar, Andrew Kellaway, Nick Daffy... They were all solid - and played their roles well, but they weren't world beaters, so as I said, winning the Richmond B&F isn't all that special - other than winning a medal with Jack Dyer's name on it.
 
thejinx said:
I agree - maybe you should direct that post at AstuteTiger who said that my post was 'hardly eloquent'.

Sorry jinx, I wasn't aiming it at you, I actually quoted your post to try and agree with you to an extent.
 
Disco08 said:
Sorry jinx, I wasn't aiming it at you, I actually quoted your post to try and agree with you to an extent.

No worries mate - as I mentioned above, I definitely wasn't having a dig at you. No hard feelings :)