Brett Deledio (merged)

[Tigerfan]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Good point. It became laughable the amount of times we did handball to a stationery player with his back to the goal. This player then has to wheel around by which time the opposition are putting him under pressure and in turn we see another panic handball.

The other points being why do we bullet handball to someone 2 metres away? Why do we handball to their feet and why do we handball as the first option even if we don't have the awareness of where the handball recipient is heading and how "hot" they are? Why do we handball to someone hemmed in on the boundary line ensuring he has nowhere to go with the next disposal???

So many questions!

For mine a cardinal sin is handballing and then not running to block or shepherd. Dumb and lazy.

 

[rockstar_tiger]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

deledio has a broken hand

he should be rested afor the rest of the season

Cousins can play very,very good footy with a broken hand, and he only needs 1 week off after surgery.

 

[jb03]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

We seem to the the worst team in the comp for blocking, screening etc at stoppages. Again Cousins seems the only player who will barrel into an opponent at a stoppage.

We are even unable to provide the cheap handball to lids around the back of a player who has won a free kick or taken a mark. Watch Geelong with Ablett, no matter how tight his opponent plays it he gets the quick hand ball and the giver provides a quick shephard freeing Ablett up.

 

[dimmauchump]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Prett simple really!! Another player that has suffered from Wallace's terrible record of developing players. Problem with Deledio is that from his first game, everytime he got tagged and seemed to struggle, Wallace would immediately move him to another position to free him up. Instead of leaving him there the entire game so he could work on how to best beat a tag, he basically gave him the easy option every time and released him to another spot, thus hindering his development on how to beat a tag. He should of sat him down and said, you will be played in the middle for the next 5-6 weeks, and you will learn how to break a tag.

Once again Wallace showed his lack of coaching nous. He goes on and on about the Western Bulldogs list, and that he should take credit for it, but what no one mentions is that if Wallace was there i doubt very hghly that any of them would have developed as well as they have now.

Good riddance you imposter.

 

[Scoop]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

We seem to the the worst team in the comp for blocking, screening etc at stoppages. Again Cousins seems the only player who will barrel into an opponent at a stoppage.

We are even unable to provide the cheap handball to lids around the back of a player who has won a free kick or taken a mark. Watch Geelong with Ablett, no matter how tight his opponent plays it he gets the quick hand ball and the giver provides a quick shephard freeing Ablett up.

Yep. At any stoppage Cousins is the only guy on the move, hitting bodies, darting into space make room for him and others. It still amazes me what a buzz goes around the ground when Cousins gets the ball. His lost none of his smarts and still puts the ball to the right spot by hand or foot. I think his game time needs to be increased. We look better with him out there. Should play next year (body pending) is our most creative onballer and runs the lines hard.

 

[jb03]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Yep. At any stoppage Cousins is the only guy on the move, hitting bodies, darting into space make room for him and others. It still amazes me what a buzz goes around the ground when Cousins gets the ball. His lost none of his smarts and still puts the ball to the right spot by hand or foot. I think his game time needs to be increased. We look better with him out there. Should play next year (body pending) is our most creative onballer and runs the lines hard.

Agree. With so many to delist before him Cousins will stay on.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

For mine a cardinal sin is handballing and then not running to block or shepherd. Dumb and lazy.

:clap

We seem to the the worst team in the comp for blocking, screening etc at stoppages. Again Cousins seems the only player who will barrel into an opponent at a stoppage.

We are even unable to provide the cheap handball to lids around the back of a player who has won a free kick or taken a mark. Watch Geelong with Ablett, no matter how tight his opponent plays it he gets the quick hand ball and the giver provides a quick shephard freeing Ablett up.

:clap :clap

This is a massive issue at Tigerland that has not been addressed since before Frawley. It is obvious how much Cuz does it - instinctively - simply because none of his team-mates do. All the talk about our "lack of skill" is a misnomer. Our skill always looks better when the game becomes free-flowing. Our skill level doesn't change within a match! It is the free space and time that makes us look better. We fall over - figuratively - when the game gets tight. This is because pressure from the opposition closes down that free space. They need to learn that they have the power to open up that space again by working hard for each other. By blocking and bumping and shepherding.

 

[IanG]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

We seem to the the worst team in the comp for blocking, screening etc at stoppages. Again Cousins seems the only player who will barrel into an opponent at a stoppage.

We are even unable to provide the cheap handball to lids around the back of a player who has won a free kick or taken a mark. Watch Geelong with Ablett, no matter how tight his opponent plays it he gets the quick hand ball and the giver provides a quick shephard freeing Ablett up.

Shane Wakelin on SEN has just given us a huge blast for exactly this problem.

 

[jb03]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Shane Wakelin on SEN has just given us a huge blast for exactly this problem.

Hmmmmm I'm liking this Wakelin more and more. Is he interested in coaching the Tigers?

 

[Al Bundy]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Cousins

:clap


IMO Club should sign him up for another year NOW !

 

[SkunkDen]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

You cant compare someone like Cuz whos a Brownlow medalist and a Premiership player to Deledio who has been thrown everywhere to plug holes.
Deledio hasnt been allowed to develop and play where he should be played that is from the wing to forward line.
Deledio is a creative player and should not be played at half back.

i agree here but just because he is a creative player shouldnt rule him out playing half back. L.Hodge, P.Burgoyne, A.Mcleod, J.Gram, are some of the most creative players in the game.

 

[Punxsutawney Phil]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Hmmmmm I'm liking this Wakelin more and more. Is he interested in coaching the Tigers?

Wakelin actually speaks really well and speaks his mind. He and Robbo were quite good this morning discussing the Tigers and Terry's legacy.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

There are so many dud posters on this site its just crazy, "Sir" being one of them, ill just mention last week lids BOG and Sir doesnt say didly squat, now last night as many wouldnt know and thats fair enough....after the game being in the rooms i was told lids was struggling with the flu, i thought to myself why the hell play him, he looked flat as a tack all night, he could not run, in his last 6 weeks uve seen him running hard taking the man on and setting up plays....i said to one of the players initially before being told about he flu why he wasnt playing majority in the midfield and that was the reason...What irks me is im a fan of lids but if u have the flu or an illness that will prevent you from playing to ur capacity then u should not play..

Apart from the flu why play him in the backline and then easily taken out of the play almost to the full back line by picken....Not sure if u could see that properly on the TV but he was so taken back to the full back line that Eade wouldve been licking his lips....

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

At the moment Lids is a 'very good player' for us....but he is not 'elite' yet.

disagree mate, id take buckleys and dunstalls opinion over many on here, they said he is an A grader which he is, elite is being able to hit targets by either foot or hand at will and lids does this in spades always to the benefit of the team, livers thats what elite is....Another thing having played footy for most of my life if u play fwd or back its not like playing in the midfield where u run to every contest and being in the play at will....when lids plays more on ball he makes the right decisions on a regular basis which helps the team, he is one of the best ball users in our side and TW trys to plug every hole making lids a Mr fix it type of player....when he won the B&F last year it was more so on the ball, this year if many have noticed his best games are when he is on the ball.....he runs the lines and creates the next play for the advantage of the team...even last night with the flu he tried manfully but couldnt get out of 2nd gear, the only thing he can hold his hat on is the fact he won his own ball, he had 9 contested possessions out of 13 disposals....the 2nd most hard ball gets in the team only behind tuck..

There are so many posters on here who i dont know whether they have played the game or even attend games to see how the play unfolds...
Jackson whom i gave 3 votes had some bad clangers but he was by far our best...when cotch or lids or cuz have the ball in their hands more times than not they use the ball to the teams advantage...

 

[GoodOne]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

I don't know about Cousins showing how over-rated Lids is, I didn't think Cuz did that much tonight.

Cousins was sublime tonight. Always does something constructive with the ball. 21 possessions in 50% game time not a bad effort either.

 

[Wildride]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Agree with you Astute - Lids is elite, and this is why he is the first Tiger midfielder tagged every week.

 

[Massai]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Delidio has suffered from bugger all player development (as have a lot of the players), plus having had a coach who shifted him all over the place, instead of just leaving him in the midfield where he rightly belongs.

Tambling no different, at least now it appears that RT playing off HB is where he now belongs, with Delidio he still got shifted all over the place, playing down in defence last night WTF, totally wasted talent to date, hopefully whoever the new coach and playing staff are, they will recognise his deficiencies and address them pre season, so he can get off to a flyer in 2010.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Delidio has suffered from bugger all player development (as have a lot of the players), plus having had a coach who shifted him all over the place, instead of just leaving him in the midfield where he rightly belongs.

too right Massai, tucky or jackson or even foley they play onball 90% of the time and they'll always get plenty of possies that we know its what u do with the ball thereafter is what is at question here, i think jackson is improving in this area but still makes some fundamental errors and foley 1 week can hit targets and another be right off the boil but lids more times than not not only hits targets but makes the right decisions as does cotch and cuz, if lids has 20 odd disposals off the wing/fwd/mid rest assured they'll be to the teams advantage...

What would happen if jackson played only fwd or back still reckon he would get close to 30 touches, think not, what about tucky playing wing or fwd think he would get over 30 touches think not, these guys dont play there cause there arent many possies where they can be utilised, lids unfortuanetly for him he is being asked to be mr fix it in all different possies and i think as much as that could be a compliment of his class it doesnt bode well for the future to have him all over the place...we need our best ball users starting on the ball...

 

[Jason King]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

Deledio in defence even made my nephew scream ... "lids is a midfielder, why is he in defence ?".

 

[gustiger12]

Re: Cousins shows how over-rated Deledio is!

There are so many dud posters on this site its just crazy, "Sir" being one of them, ill just mention last week lids BOG and Sir doesnt say didly squat, now last night as many wouldnt know and thats fair enough....after the game being in the rooms i was told lids was struggling with the flu, i thought to myself why the hell play him, he looked flat as a tack all night, he could not run, in his last 6 weeks uve seen him running hard taking the man on and setting up plays....i said to one of the players initially before being told about he flu why he wasnt playing majority in the midfield and that was the reason...What irks me is im a fan of lids but if u have the flu or an illness that will prevent you from playing to ur capacity then u should not play..

Apart from the flu why play him in the backline and then easily taken out of the play almost to the full back line by picken....Not sure if u could see that properly on the TV but he was so taken back to the full back line that Eade wouldve been licking his lips....

Its interesting this one. I was very hard on lids for not working hard enough last night, the example where Picken ran down and goaled while Lids trotted along about 40 metres behind, might be explained by the flu, but even before this was mentioned I was wondering to myself if the last few weeks haven't effected him.

Lets all hope it was just the flu last night, but it concerns me that his work rate drops at times. I won't consider him elite until he can work through the tag or at least show he can consistently. He still need to give better four quarter efforts to be considered elite in my book.

Just follow Cuz' lead Lids and you will get there.