Brett Deledio (merged)

[skybeau]

Hey Skybeau...read my posts carefully about Brett Deledio...I have never bagged him in the sense that I want him out of the team DUDE...where have I ever mentioned I want him out of the team...where have I ever mentioned he is not in our best 18...where have I ever mentioned he can't play footy...MY BEEF IS AND GET THIS IN YOUR THICK SKULL MATE...that he can't play in the middle when the going gets tough...he is a top player...great skills....will play well 300 games for the club...we are 0 wins from 10 games....main reason being WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO HELP FOLEY GET THE HARD PILL...all I'm doing here with this post was to test Brett Deledio out...to show me he can play in the middle week in week out...HE HAS NOT STEPPED UP...and if anyone believes he has...then you're all as soft as him ( in the middle that is ).

And yet, despite those claims, you only resurface this thread when Deledio has a quiet game.

You love pointing out his weaknesses and how he doesn't step up when its required, and then when he does, you're nowhere to be seen.

Deledio would be next to useless in the middle because, as yet, he cannot shake a tag. We saw last night that Sherman, despite Deledio running him around all night, kept him quiet. We also saw a champion in Simon Black tagged into submission by Daniel Jackson. How was his output? Now add the years of experience that Black has over Deledio and there's your answer. There is no benefit to playing Deledio in the centre at this stage of his career, it would not give us anything extra out of the middle. He's better providing run off the half-back line, or going forward and kicking goals at this stage of his career.

Point the finger at the harder bodies of Shane Tuck and Kane Johnson as not providing help for Foley before you bag out Deledio for not providing help. If you can't see that Deledio isn't ready for the middle yet, then you're as soft as you claim we are.

For crying out loud, your boy Patto is being thrown to the wolves and getting slaughtered because he isn't ready to play full time in that position...gawd, be consistent mate.

 

[Scoop]

I still don't think Brett Deleldio should be held by the likes of Justin Sherman. Not a really well know tagger, in fact I don't recall Sherman tagging at all before last night although I could be wrong.

To me that is lack of work rate on Brett's behalf or maybe last night he was played out of his comfort zone position wise but either way he should be dealing with the SHermans of the AFL world.

 

[RainsyBaby]

you just don't get it Sky...where have I bagged Brett...and please don't even go there comparing him to Simon Black.

 

[RainsyBaby]

I still don't think Brett Deleldio should be held by the likes of Justin Sherman. Not a really well know tagger, in fact I don't recall Sherman tagging at all before last night although I could be wrong.

To me that is lack of work rate on Brett's behalf or maybe last night he was played out of his comfort zone position wise but either way he should be dealing with the SHermans of the AFL world.

exactly Scoop

 

[jackfrost]

A bit hard when you are tagged all game, at one stage he had 2 on him. He was moved all over the ground in an attempt to get free, but the Lions stuck like glue all night - why? Because last week he was best on ground (and should have won the award grumble grumble....)

Understand that he was Tagged Jools , but the Great Players find a way to still contribute , maybe not in kicks, handballs, marks etc, but the 1%er's still need to be done (Sheperds,tackles,spoils) and the truely knowledgable fan loves a bloke who lay's his body on the line.
Do you think this is an area he could still improve in ?

 

[skybeau]

Any chance you actually responding to what I said, or are you gonna be a hypocrite and not read my posts while accusing me of not reading yours?

If you'd actually read my post, you would've noted that I said Simon Black struggled with a tag playing in the centre, and he has infinitely more experience than Deledio...and you want Deledio in the centre under a similar tag?

And its hilarious that you're sticking by this silly "oh I'm not bagging Deledio" line when the title of this stupid thread calls him soft. Or is that not bagging? You probably call it "constructive abuse"...

 

[Ridley]

you just don't get it Sky...where have I bagged Brett...and please don't even go there comparing him to Simon Black.

Umm look at your title of the thread:

"Blah blah blah blah....SOFT MATE!"

Does calling a player soft not constitute bagging? Obviously you don't think so. But geez, don't go potting a player's kicking though; the most basic of all skills in this game :

 

[Jools]

Every player can improve, even the Judd's of this game.

Lids will learn to negate his tag, he is still only in his 3rd year, just over 50 games and turned 20 6 weeks ago.

 

[jackfrost]

Every player can improve, even the Judd's of this game.

Lids will learn to negate his tag, he is still only in his 3rd year, just over 50 games and turned 20 6 weeks ago.

Absolutely.....................That's the Beauty of "Youth" , let's hope he keeps improving and working on the weaknesses.
If your striving to be the best , you've gotta expect to be Tagged in Today's game. I think we all hope he can learn how to deal with the shackles, that in all honesty he will probably have to deal with for most of his career.

 

[RainsyBaby]

Any chance you actually responding to what I said, or are you gonna be a hypocrite and not read my posts while accusing me of not reading yours?

If you'd actually read my post, you would've noted that I said Simon Black struggled with a tag playing in the centre, and he has infinitely more experience than Deledio...and you want Deledio in the centre under a similar tag?

And its hilarious that you're sticking by this silly "oh I'm not bagging Deledio" line when the title of this stupid thread calls him soft. Or is that not bagging? You probably call it "constructive abuse"...

Are you telling me the Club's expectations was to see Deledio become a half back flanker...or a half forward...or do you think the Club wanted him to develop in one of the best midfield players in the Comp.
I think they wanted the latter...and he hasn't produced BECAUSE HE IS NOT HARD ENOUGH IN THE MIDDLE.

That's the only argument I have...never bagged him DUDE...he could well become a champ at the club...the Daicos type...cause havoc up forward...BUT WE NOW KNOW HE ISN'T UP TO PLAYING CONSISTENT HARD FOOTY IN THE MIDDLE.

Wallace has asked that question of him several times this year and FAILED.

Do you actually watch the games Sky...or do you just look at stats...your vision of this matter is very ordinary to say the least...SKYBEAU the horse was a plodder...get the feeling you are plodding with your argument.

 

[RainsyBaby]

I can feel you typing away Sky furiously...don't waste your time...you have run another placing...here is a SOFT KISS for you :-*

Enough of this boredom...time to watch some footy.

 

[thejinx]

Deledio is soft... no doubt.

Lets just hope he toughens up with age, and learns to do the 1%ers.

He has the ability to break open a game, ala last week. I'm hoping that he realises this as he ages and starts imposing himself on the game at will.

Otherwise, we'll be looking at another Fiora type selection. yay.

 

[Bill James]

I would have tried Delidio tagging Lappin, quick, skilful but not strong. He could benefit from a run-with role, might give him some ideas on how to break his own tags.

 

[mopsy fraser]

BUT WE NOW KNOW HE ISN'T UP TO PLAYING CONSISTENT HARD FOOTY IN THE MIDDLE.
Wallace has asked that question of him several times this year and FAILED.

you`re right, lids isn`t up to playing consistent hard footy in the middle...YET!
i think you are the one who needs to GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL that kids who have just got out of their teens and have had next to no experience playing in the middle and getting tagged are just not going to play CONSISTENT HARD FOOTY IN THE MIDDLE.

 

[AstuteTiger]

yet again when the Tiges needed a lift TW puts Brett Deledio in the middle...YET AGAIN HE FAILS TO DELIVER...
When will you all realise that Deledio is too soft to play in the middle. He is a class receiver type of player...will always be handy when the going isn't tough.
Is he related to Anthony Callea ?

You are a *smile* head seriously, where the *smile* were u last week when lids was BOG and had 7 contested possessions, mate i was waiting to see if u would post a positive for lids on his gut busting runs and hard ball gets. No u didn't post u were no where to be seen but last nite yeah he had an average game, so what do you do ur on here straight away giving him a pasting, you are DEAD SET *smile*. By the way yes he only had 9 possessions but 7 were contested hard ball gets hardly soft, by the way RB he has had more contested possessions than any other Richmond player in the last 3 weeks, so u can understand why others on here cant take ur posts seriously cause ur posts don't have substance.

Now on Patto ur luv child mate i like patto good motor and trier but he's skills are woeful and is a liability at times why don't u say that. Another thing u keep harping on "poor patto". No one makes him kick the ball or hand ball to no mans land or play on and get caught without looking to see if he's free.
But i actually like patto will only improve in time.

Finally i have read ur posts over the last 24 hours to other PREnders and u keep saying i don’t bag lids, *smile* *smile* u don’t u bag him you do so at every opportunity, read ur posts they are hardly glowing for lids.

 

[U2Tigers]

Soft I don't think so.




He is struggling to break a tag -

Pure and simple.

One would have thought he would be able to handle it better than he is by now -

but unfortunately he probably gets little assistance from his team mates. And IMO this makes it a tough job for him.

He will get there - Only TIME is the unknown.

 

[Phar Ace]

I would have tried Delidio tagging Lappin, quick, skilful but not strong. He could benefit from a run-with role, might give him some ideas on how to break his own tags.

Have him tag Josh Carr next week - that'll harden him up ;D

But I do agree that some run with roles will give him a harder edge than is currently on display.

Lids does have a bit of the poser about him I noticed. Not always a bad thing, but sure would like his footy to do the talking first - ala Nathan Brown.

 

[Scoop]

Been thinking about Deledio. And thinking about Saturday night.

He has been playing superb football the month before Saturday night. He was out of sorts and didn't work hard enough for what ever reason. The real test will be how he bounces back this week. If he puts in another super game that will make it five out of six, I will take that any day off the week.

Then he needs to work on shorting the gap between his best (essendon) and his worst(Brisbane). He needs to find ways to get involved if he isn't having a super night. Creating space through hard running when you know you are not going to get it, tackling, blocking. That cerebral part of the game is the challenge that Brett face's over the next 50 games. How can I get better and become great not and not just better then average.

Big test for him this week and a game I think will tell us how mature this young man is.

 

[jb03]

I still don't think Brett Deleldio should be held by the likes of Justin Sherman. Not a really well know tagger, in fact I don't recall Sherman tagging at all before last night although I could be wrong.

To me that is lack of work rate on Brett's behalf or maybe last night he was played out of his comfort zone position wise but either way he should be dealing with the SHermans of the AFL world.

I think Matthews said that the Shermanator had been a bit out of form this year and that his best games were when he was given a specific tagging job as it allowed him to focus purely on that.

You are probably right re beating Sherman but LIds was stitched up only by Ling also this year - Ling has been unbelievably good this year.

Matthews identified the importance of Lids to our team as one of the few (read only) that could be damaging with his skill.

Lids had better get used to it as we have no one else worth tagging bar perhaps Foley.

 

[skybeau]

Whoops, how could I have forgotten about this thread?

I can feel you typing away Sky furiously...don't waste your time...you have run another placing...here is a SOFT KISS for you :-*

Enough of this boredom...time to watch some footy.

Placing? I'm not a ho...oh wait, I see what you did there...you referred to the REAL skybeau!!! Oh how clever of you...

Can't wait till you get back from your internet dates and see Astute's post, you'll go off your nut! Wonder what you'll call him? But I'm guessing you'll just respond with the typical "oh I'm not bagging Deledio sob woe sob nobody loves me"...

So come on, RB, tell me...what part of "SOFT mate" is NOT bagging Deledio? All your posts are exactly the same, little diatribes that have no relevance to what you've been asked. Astute's answered your claims about him being soft (unless you think gaining contested possessions is irrelevant to softness), now come back and have a decent discussion, without getting all uppity. If you're capable of that, that is...