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Brandon Ellis

Thought he was good last night. Hate to be on the.selection panel in the next few weeks. Good problem to have though
 
Good last night. Hate to be on the selection committee. Probably won't be at punt road next year if.he doesn't get games.
 
Was a pass. Did a brilliant side step on the boundary in the first and was decent in the first half.

I think as well that he has to improve the mental aspects of his game. The composure was missing. He needs to learn how to thrive with the physical contact. Houli would be a good template to follow.
 
MD Jazz said:
That’s just *smile* too. His game against GWS was as bad as anyone could play. Last week he was good and was roundly praised. He was a mixed bag last night., some really poor stuff.

It's a pretty harsh test to judge him on "some really poor stuff" last night.
How many players each week NEVER do "some really poor stuff" at some stage during a game?
 
Giardiasis said:
If his opinion is no more or less valid than yours, then how can he be wrong? Or has the definition of valid changed since last I looked?
I said I think it is wrong ie I don’t agree with it
The logical conclusion of what you are saying is that if someone believes an opinion is incorrect then that opinion is somehow less valid. Of course that is nonsense.
A valid opinion is one that is a reasonable opinion to have, based on reasonable premise. Of course others may disagree but that doesn’t make that opinion invalid or less valid.
The very nature of something that someone has an opinion on is that it has an element of subjectivity in it. If it is factual then it’s not an opinion, it’s an expression of fact or fiction.
 
joegarra said:
Nathan Brown just gave him 4th best on the ground on Ch 9?!

Do you actually think they watch the games? The go to tye AFL app get the numbers and spin *smile*.
Ellis isnt good enough, he should be rapt he won a flag and now its time to wave him goodbye.
 
zippadeee said:
Do you actually think they watch the games? The go to tye AFL app get the numbers and spin sh!t.
Ellis isnt good enough, he should be rapt he won a flag and now its time to wave him goodbye.
Yes it is part of their job. And Nathan being an ex-Richmond player yes I would assume he does
 
zippadeee said:
Do you actually think they watch the games? The go to tye AFL app get the numbers and spin sh!t.
Ellis isnt good enough, he should be rapt he won a flag and now its time to wave him goodbye.

Too many on here love to hate Brando.
Has been solid and a good link up last couple of games and back to old form on a wing where he was AA top 40 a few years ago.
Chin up Brando and he is a big reason we have the best culture in the AFL
 
RICHO_12 said:
Too many on here love to hate Brando.
Has been solid and a good link up last couple of games and back to old form on a wing where he was AA top 40 a few years ago.
Chin up Brando and he is a big reason we have the best culture in the AFL

Agree.
 
jb03 said:
Who was worse?
Lambert was relatively quiet, Ross faded after a good start like Brando did, Rioli was very quiet after his leg knock in the first half, Balta flashed in and out, Castagna , Lynch didn’t do a lot ....

Brando was very good early and serviceable after that.
 
cannot believe some of the opinions I am reading here. Sydney identified and targeted our obvious weakness in Ellis.
After half time they ran the ball out of defence directly to his opponent, look at the replay, the ball movement in the third and final quarters
swapped sides as it followed "Brando." As mentioned above he stood in no mans land and applied minimal pressure.
In the second half there was a pressure leak to our forward defensive efforts, Ellis was their get out, we tired and the ball
was blocked at the centre half (not on Mcintosh side). Good coaching by Sydney and obvious to most.
 
I thought he was ok Saturday night, thankfully the bloke behind me constantly pointed out every thing he did wrong even when he did right ::) at one point I think he had proof that Brando was the sole reason for global warming, point been Brando’s critics just can’t see anything good he does, I still don’t have him as a lock in the 22 and am confident a player like Turner or Naish will go past him quickly, however atm his been a part of back to back wins doing his role
 
Mr Brightside said:
I still don’t have him as a lock in the 22 and am confident a player like Turner or Naish will go past him quickly, however atm his been a part of back to back wins doing his role
150 game premiership player yet he's not a lock in the 22 while we're missing the likes of Tross, Jaaack, Cotch, Grigga. Therein lies the enigma that is Brandon Ellis. He's not a beginner, he's an experienced senior player yet he's still as flakey as Friday night fish and chips. Everyone knows and is happy to cheer on Brando, he's a damn good player. Trouble is that far to often Bobble comes out to play n he's farking ordinary.
Last week against Port Brando played all game and he also came out to play early in the Sydaknee game. Unfortunately Bobble turned up during the game n Brando had a nap for a fair while before finally waking up n getting back involved late in the game. Seriously frustrating footballer is Brandon Ellis n he bloody shouldn't be.
 
TigerMasochist said:
150 game premiership player yet he's not a lock in the 22 while we're missing the likes of Tross, Jaaack, Cotch, Grigga. Therein lies the enigma that is Brandon Ellis. He's not a beginner, he's an experienced senior player yet he's still as flakey as Friday night fish and chips. Everyone knows and is happy to cheer on Brando, he's a damn good player. Trouble is that far to often Bobble comes out to play n he's *smile*ing ordinary.
Last week against Port Brando played all game and he also came out to play early in the Sydaknee game. Unfortunately Bobble turned up during the game n Brando had a nap for a fair while before finally waking up n getting back involved late in the game. Seriously frustrating footballer is Brandon Ellis n he bloody shouldn't be.
I’ve always thought if his our 22nd player we are going pretty well.

Hopefully by years end his a dual premiership player, however I think his the perfect player to grab us a second rounder as a free agent on the way out ,as I said earlier I believe we have some better replacements coming. I also see the Skip playing a bit more wing and flank time over the last years of his career .
 
TigerMasochist said:
150 game premiership player yet he's not a lock in the 22 while we're missing the likes of Tross, Jaaack, Cotch, Grigga. Therein lies the enigma that is Brandon Ellis. He's not a beginner, he's an experienced senior player yet he's still as flakey as Friday night fish and chips. Everyone knows and is happy to cheer on Brando, he's a damn good player. Trouble is that far to often Bobble comes out to play n he's *smile*ing ordinary.
Last week against Port Brando played all game and he also came out to play early in the Sydaknee game. Unfortunately Bobble turned up during the game n Brando had a nap for a fair while before finally waking up n getting back involved late in the game. Seriously frustrating footballer is Brandon Ellis n he bloody shouldn't be.
spot on
as much as I wish Ellis would take the next step (and occasionally he does) he undoes that step by returning to being flakey again. He's probably in the 20 - 26 group on the list so should only play when we're not at full strength or he strings some extraordinary games together.
 
With most players frustration on this forum revolves around a player's capabilities - they lack fundamental skills. experience or athleticism.

Ellis is interesting/troubling in that those three issues aren't his problem nor is his commitment. All that leaves is coaching - can he be coached to get the best of himself.
 
Brettstigers said:
With most players frustration on this forum revolves around a player's capabilities - they lack fundamental skills. experience or athleticism.

Ellis is interesting/troubling in that those three issues aren't his problem nor is his commitment. All that leaves is coaching - can he be coached to get the best of himself.
Ah….you omitted courage and composure which would be the main source of frustration with Ellis.
 
Bill James said:
Ah….you omitted courage and composure which would be the main source of frustration with Ellis.
I'll happily give ya composure Bill. Don't think anyone who plays at AFL level lacks courage, it's just that some are crazy brave n others think their way through dangerous situations.
 
Sintiger said:
I said I think it is wrong ie I don’t agree with it
The logical conclusion of what you are saying is that if someone believes an opinion is incorrect then that opinion is somehow less valid. Of course that is nonsense.
A valid opinion is one that is a reasonable opinion to have, based on reasonable premise. Of course others may disagree but that doesn’t make that opinion invalid or less valid.
The very nature of something that someone has an opinion on is that it has an element of subjectivity in it. If it is factual then it’s not an opinion, it’s an expression of fact or fiction.
By claiming his opinion is wrong you are inferring that it is not a reasonable opinion based on a reasonable premise. Otherwise you have no basis on which to make such a claim. While your initial hypothetical claim has a degree of subjectivity, it is possible that is can be objectively verified or at least objectively approximated which negates the claim that opposing opinions on the truth of your hypothetical claim are equally valid. Only opinions on matters that can’t be objectively verified are equally valid.
 
joegarra said:
Needs to go, is absolutely useless without the ball. Guards grass! Always a couple of metres off from providing a contest.
x2

Never looks like he actually wants to catch the opposition player or get to the contest first.
Just guards space and corrals them....which is NOT how you pressure someone.