Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
Trading Lennon would be a huge mistake.
Lennon is gunna make it
Trading Lennon would be a huge mistake.
Lennon is gunna make it
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Ben Lennon
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Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
I don't normally do this, but I'm stuck somewhere and have little to do for the next hour before I'm swamped until night. I'd like people to understand exactly what a Lennon for Yarran trade would look like when you factor in time (per year) with each year equally-weighted:
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Excuse my lowsy Paint skills :hihi
Basically, if you want that middle blue bar instead of the bottom blue bar, you need to give up the entire red bar.
I acknowledge the assumption that the FA deal would be a formality when in reality it's not a guarantee. But this was the problem I had with the Shaun Hampson trade. When you 'pay' for something that you are likely to get 1 year later for free, then you're effectively only paying for that 1 year. When the cost is likely to be a 12 year talent, the mind boggles.
I don't normally do this, but I'm stuck somewhere and have little to do for the next hour before I'm swamped until night. I'd like people to understand exactly what a Lennon for Yarran trade would look like when you factor in time (per year) with each year equally-weighted:
(Click on the image to expand)
Excuse my lowsy Paint skills :hihi
Basically, if you want that middle blue bar instead of the bottom blue bar, you need to give up the entire red bar.
I acknowledge the assumption that the FA deal would be a formality when in reality it's not a guarantee. But this was the problem I had with the Shaun Hampson trade. When you 'pay' for something that you are likely to get 1 year later for free, then you're effectively only paying for that 1 year. When the cost is likely to be a 12 year talent, the mind boggles.
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
The other argument is why would we give up Lennon for nothing when we can get Yarran in an exchange. If Lennon wants Carlton there's absolutely nothing we can do to stop him, it just becomes a question of finding adequate compensation.
Chimptastic said:
The other argument is why would we give up Lennon for nothing when we can get Yarran in an exchange. If Lennon wants Carlton there's absolutely nothing we can do to stop him, it just becomes a question of finding adequate compensation.
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
But we can do something about it, give him a longer contract, realistically he's shown enough that its highly doubtful we would get rid of him within 4 years and he doesn't seem injury prone.
bullus_hit said:
But we can do something about it, give him a longer contract, realistically he's shown enough that its highly doubtful we would get rid of him within 4 years and he doesn't seem injury prone.
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
Agree. This isn't a questionable 27 year old. He's a promising 20 year old. If he was to sign on for 2 years, I'd guarantee we'd be giving him another 2 year deal at the end of 2017. Let's skip the crap in between, and the prospect of losing him over something so silly.
IanG said:
Agree. This isn't a questionable 27 year old. He's a promising 20 year old. If he was to sign on for 2 years, I'd guarantee we'd be giving him another 2 year deal at the end of 2017. Let's skip the crap in between, and the prospect of losing him over something so silly.
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
Carlton have plenty of cap space, a 1.6 million deal wouldn't be out of the question. Are we willing to pay this amount?
IanG said:
Carlton have plenty of cap space, a 1.6 million deal wouldn't be out of the question. Are we willing to pay this amount?
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
What if it came down to letting Lennon go to be able to afford a Bennell type ? I like Lennon & want to keep him , just wondering if he is asking for more than we currently offering & we holding back as that extra money being used to lure players
What if it came down to letting Lennon go to be able to afford a Bennell type ? I like Lennon & want to keep him , just wondering if he is asking for more than we currently offering & we holding back as that extra money being used to lure players
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
I have a hunch that his manager has shopped him around on Lennons go ahead. Just my opinion though of course. Dusty's manager did a few years back , mind you i think Dusty had a fair few more runs on the board than Lennon has right now.
Wouldn't be suprised if Carlton have offered 400k a year x 4 years or something like that and we won't go past 2 years and probably around the 250-300k mark per year.
He could well just be a player totally after $ and thinks he deserves that type of number now.
French Tiger said:
I have a hunch that his manager has shopped him around on Lennons go ahead. Just my opinion though of course. Dusty's manager did a few years back , mind you i think Dusty had a fair few more runs on the board than Lennon has right now.
Wouldn't be suprised if Carlton have offered 400k a year x 4 years or something like that and we won't go past 2 years and probably around the 250-300k mark per year.
He could well just be a player totally after $ and thinks he deserves that type of number now.
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
Maybe the club has certain criterias in place who knows, maybe we don't offer 2nd year players anything longer than 2 years and maybe lennon wants 4 .
If we do bend and give him then it could upset the apple cart with diff players , who knows.
IanG said:
Maybe the club has certain criterias in place who knows, maybe we don't offer 2nd year players anything longer than 2 years and maybe lennon wants 4 .
If we do bend and give him then it could upset the apple cart with diff players , who knows.
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
Dunno. We've resigned all our stars. Our footy manager is an ex player agent so he'll know exactly what is fair and what games people play.
I wouldn't be keen to offer Bertie 4 years seeing he hasn't produced anything special to date.
IanG said:
Dunno. We've resigned all our stars. Our footy manager is an ex player agent so he'll know exactly what is fair and what games people play.
I wouldn't be keen to offer Bertie 4 years seeing he hasn't produced anything special to date.
Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon
We may well be jumping at shadows but if the rumours are true then I am starting to lose a little respect for a 19yo trying to bend his club over to get a 4 year contract after a fairly modest first 2 years. (I still don't know why he wouldn't want a 2 year contract and then demand real coin once he reaches his potential).
Time will tell.
We may well be jumping at shadows but if the rumours are true then I am starting to lose a little respect for a 19yo trying to bend his club over to get a 4 year contract after a fairly modest first 2 years. (I still don't know why he wouldn't want a 2 year contract and then demand real coin once he reaches his potential).
Time will tell.
