Ben Lennon

[Tenacious]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Pfft, he had plenty of games, by the end of the year he couldn't run out games from half forward. I think we should re-sign him on a longer deal but don't make up stuff that isn't true.

What!!! "Don't make up stuff that isn't true". You can't be serious. How would PRE survive?

 

[MB78]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

had a text from a close tiger at tiger headquarters....BEN LENNON AINT GOING NOWHERE

I like the sound of that. Fingers crossed your info is right.

 

[Tigertool]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

had a text from a close tiger at tiger headquarters....BEN LENNON AINT GOING NOWHERE

Hope so Arlobill!

 

[taztiger4]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

had a text from a close tiger at tiger headquarters....BEN LENNON AINT GOING NOWHERE

Oh no , a double negative, he is going

 

[DeathNinthandTaxes]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Oh no , a double negative, he is going

if he aint going nowhere, he must be going somewhere. that tiger insider has ruined my day with his cryptic double negatives!

 

[AngryAnt]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Oh no , a double negative, he is going

:hihi

 

[Tony Braxton-Hicks]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Since Carlton is nowhere, he aint goin there.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Seriously oldie?

Absolutely.
Chances are obviously higher that they'll be a success but there are no guarantees whatsoever based purely on a junior draft number and it's certainly not reason enough to hang onto them.
I can't be bothered reeling off the countless examples.

 

[Bill James]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Absolutely.
Chances are obviously higher that they'll be a success but there are no guarantees whatsoever based purely on a junior draft number and it's certainly not reason enough to hang onto them.
I can't be bothered reeling off the countless examples.

Give me countless examples and you will find that it matters a lot where a player is drafted all the way down to the bottom of the third round after that it becomes random.

 

[philipwalsh]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

What's this 'can't lose 1st rounders' furphy?
Really who gives a sh!t where junior footballers are drafted?
It's just a entry ticket to the big dance. How hard they work from then on is what makes a professional footballer.
The AFL graveyard is littered with high draft picks.

And we as the tiger family have a rather large number of plots taken, and we have had some excellent undertakers over the years

 

[St Kevin]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Give me countless examples and you will find that it matters a lot where a player is drafted all the way down to the bottom of the third round after that it becomes random.

Yep. You want your first rounders to be core players and if you're trading them you want to get a core player/1st rounder in return. Simple really.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Give me countless examples and you will find that it matters a lot where a player is drafted all the way down to the bottom of the third round after that it becomes random.

Can't be bothered really. If you think where a junior player gets drafted is a guarantee of their success as AFL players then good luck to you.

 

[artball]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Yep. You want your first rounders to be core players and if you're trading them you want to get a core player/1st rounder in return. Simple really.

very simple. perfectly sensible and correct

 

[evo]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Oh no , a double negative, he is going

In capitals, no less.

 

[asian tetley]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

If Lennon goes we can always talk Newman out of retirement to go around again.
having a coach with an eye for the future there's no telling how high we can go.
Or how low.

 

[St Kevin]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Can't be bothered really. If you think where a junior player gets drafted is a guarantee of their success as AFL players then good luck to you.

Nothing is a guarantee. But more likely than not the best players are first rounders.

Excluding father sons such as Shaw and Kennedy (as talented ones can be taken disproportionately late) and scholarship selections (such as Walker) the 2015 AA squad of 40 had Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Hurley, Hill, Lewis, Rioli, Burgoyne, Higgins, Wingard, Deledio, Martin, Rance, Riewoldt, Gaff, Kennedy, Naitanui, Murphy and Stringer. 18 out of 40 are first rounders.

Add Cameron who would've been a first rounder had he not been preselected and it's basically a 50% strike rate.

 

[tigertim]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Can't be bothered really. If you think where a junior player gets drafted is a guarantee of their success as AFL players then good luck to you.

I put this post up last year about average games played by what number the player was drafted FWIW:

Saw this interesting chart in the Inside Football (sorry, can't link it) regarding average games played (since 1990) by the draft pick number:

1: 154
2: 141
3: 130
4: 92
5: 110
6: 51
7: 97
8: 104
9: 87
10: 88
11: 95
12: 80
13: 107
14: 82
15: 72
16: 88
17: 69
18: 67
19: 86
20: 71
21: 61
22: 44
23: 49
24: 72
25: 62
26: 56
27: 54
28: 49
29: 72
30: 47
31:.66
32: 61
33: 58
34: 43
35: 22
36: 53
37: 77
38: 48
39: 46
40: 90
41: 45
42: 47
43: 63
44: 48
45: 52
46: 61
47: 63
48: 39
49: 56
50: 32
51: 12
52: 30
53: 54
54: 15
55: 65
56: 76
57: 25
58: 42
59: 20
60: 39
61: 32
62: 41
63: 27
64: 31
65: 7
66: 46
67: 47
68: 29
69: 27
70: 24
71: 38
72: 22
73: 38
74: 42
75: 25
76: 27
77: 27
78: 29
79: 57
80: 7
81: 19
82: 40
83: 9
84: 20
85:39
86: 33
87:49
88:13
89:24
90:42
91:34
92:40
93:9
94:29
95:32
96:10
97:26
98:19
99:30
100:39
101:32
102:17
103:65
104:14
105:12
106:68
107:18
108:38
109:26
110:3
111:16
112:5
113:0
114:0
115:0
116:0
117:0
118:1
119:0
120:0
121:0
122:0
123:0
124:116 (Brayden Lyle)
[/quote

 

[Stylo]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

Can't be bothered really. If you think where a junior player gets drafted is a guarantee of their success as AFL players then good luck to you.

Bit of a strawman argument that. There aren't any guarantees, just probabilities. You have the highest probability of making successful picks early in the draft. Simple.

 

[mrposhman]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

I put this post up last year about average games played by what number the player was drafted FWIW:

Saw this interesting chart in the Inside Football (sorry, can't link it) regarding average games played (since 1990) by the draft pick number:

1: 154
2: 141
3: 130
4: 92
5: 110
6: 51
7: 97
8: 104
9: 87
10: 88
11: 95
12: 80
13: 107
14: 82
15: 72
16: 88
17: 69
18: 67
19: 86
20: 71
21: 61
22: 44
23: 49
24: 72
25: 62
26: 56
27: 54
28: 49
29: 72
30: 47
31:.66
32: 61
33: 58
34: 43
35: 22
36: 53
37: 77
38: 48
39: 46
40: 90
41: 45
42: 47
43: 63
44: 48
45: 52
46: 61
47: 63
48: 39
49: 56
50: 32
51: 12
52: 30
53: 54
54: 15
55: 65
56: 76
57: 25
58: 42
59: 20
60: 39
61: 32
62: 41
63: 27
64: 31
65: 7
66: 46
67: 47
68: 29
69: 27
70: 24
71: 38
72: 22
73: 38
74: 42
75: 25
76: 27
77: 27
78: 29
79: 57
80: 7
81: 19
82: 40
83: 9
84: 20
85:39
86: 33
87:49
88:13
89:24
90:42
91:34
92:40
93:9
94:29
95:32
96:10
97:26
98:19
99:30
100:39
101:32
102:17
103:65
104:14
105:12
106:68
107:18
108:38
109:26
110:3
111:16
112:5
113:0
114:0
115:0
116:0
117:0
118:1
119:0
120:0
121:0
122:0
123:0
124:116 (Brayden Lyle)
[/quote

Gee - 6 is a bit of a cursed pick, isn't that where we took Conca?

 

[seven]

Re: Welcome to tiger land Ben Lennon

This thread certainly has a fair bit of chicken little to it.

thought you were going to say chicken manure.