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Bachar Houli - بشار حولي,
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Massai said:
Correct. Hardwick has rarely if ever made a statement by dropping chronically under-performing players.
yesterdays loss exemplified our current situation.
We HAVE NOT improved
We still have players like Houli who refuse to play tough football [ie high pressure footy] when the going gets tough
We still have unskilled players getting games over genuinely skilled players ie Pet-*smile* over Knights
and i've nearly had enough of the farce that is our selection table!
We HAVE NOT improved
We still have players like Houli who refuse to play tough football [ie high pressure footy] when the going gets tough
We still have unskilled players getting games over genuinely skilled players ie Pet-*smile* over Knights
and i've nearly had enough of the farce that is our selection table!
lamb22 said:
Those that claim Houli is an elite backman and potential AA must be squirming a little after yesterday. Houli is a one-sided elite endurance athlete with poor defensive skills and a lack of composure. We need more speed and composure back there.
Deledio was sorely missed yesterday and he should be playing HBF. His ball use is sublime, no one in our backline (probably other than Rance) is reliable by foot. How long is Yarran contracted for? He is exactly the type we need.
Thought he was one of the better players, but embodied the team's mindset in the third quarter when he received a handball on his left side outside 50, in enough space to take a few strides and have a shot. Dished off instead to Cotchin who was pressured => turnover => opportunity lost.
The opposition comes at us, not the other way round, and we become hesitant. As a result Houli sometimes doesn't have targets clearly presenting when he goes forward (as opposed to across the ground). This happened last year as well. Not sure Houli should carry disproportionate blame here. You could put e.g. last year's AA Malceski in yesterday's team and he'd look ordinary.
The opposition comes at us, not the other way round, and we become hesitant. As a result Houli sometimes doesn't have targets clearly presenting when he goes forward (as opposed to across the ground). This happened last year as well. Not sure Houli should carry disproportionate blame here. You could put e.g. last year's AA Malceski in yesterday's team and he'd look ordinary.
Exactly right as I said people are over reacting. He wasn't great but not diabolical as some are suggesting. Bulldogs stopped our run and in those situations its difficult for players like houli. I'm not defending his game , as so.some says he needs to reduce the gap between his best and worst but in a functioning side houli is an important and damaging player.
A Malceski type would be great, however with our position on the clock an his cost an length of contract ,plus his knee history an age, I don't mind that we went to the draft instead . Heard them talking about Garlett the other day an how bad his off field issues were, he may well bite us in the ass as again his type would be perfect for us, however if MM couldn't get him to straighten up I wouldn't have backed us tooSCOOP said:
Against Carlton Houli gained in excess of 700 meters ( a clear game high). Against the bulldogs he was well held.
The biggest issue in my opinion is not that Houli was beaten on the day but that we have no plan B for running it out of the back line in this situation.
Look at Hawthorn in last years Grand final there half back line for much of the 1st quarter was Mitchell, Hodge & Burgoyne. There is plan AB&C.
Houli would obviously not get a game in that team nor is he part of our next premiership side but he is well ahead of 4 or 5 others who played on the weekend.
The biggest issue in my opinion is not that Houli was beaten on the day but that we have no plan B for running it out of the back line in this situation.
Look at Hawthorn in last years Grand final there half back line for much of the 1st quarter was Mitchell, Hodge & Burgoyne. There is plan AB&C.
Houli would obviously not get a game in that team nor is he part of our next premiership side but he is well ahead of 4 or 5 others who played on the weekend.
lamb22 said:
I'd be happy for Houli & Petterd to have their papers marked!
I agree with playing Lennon & Knights above these two ..... assuming they are fit.
He was horrible but he's normally pretty consistent. Calls to drop or move out of a rebounding role are a bit silly. Our only other rebounder is Newman? So you're getting 10 possessions out of him a week. We need Houli for now. Newman needs to be replaced first.
