Bachar Houli - بشار حولي,

[Scoop]

It's a bloody massive no brainer isn't it scooper? To think we got him virtually freebies off Esserdope, then to listen to Bachar speak n see his involvement in developing links in the community is a massive bonus not just for the Tiges but for Aussie rules footy and the community in general.
Someone like Bachar could have had a massive influence for AFL in Sydney's west, but they went the other way n used a rugby league player to try n make a convert option when there's very little likelihood of converting many rugby fans. Would be more advantage to search amongst those not suited to rugby's size n power, more athletic or soccer, or basketball build type youngsters.

Yeah, maybe it's too obvious but I would have done it. I think Bachar, like Daniel Jackson, will leave a bigger legacy on the community than on the football field. The Issy & Hunt moves were madness IMO.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Yeah, maybe it's too obvious but I would have done it. I think Bachar, like Daniel Jackson, will leave a bigger legacy on the community than on the football field. The Issy & Hunt moves were madness IMO.

Bloody sad that simple keyboard bumblers can understand something as basic, yet the mega paid marketing n corporate types can't see beyond the brain fart in the back of their underpants.

 

[rinso17]

He cops a lot of stick on this forum, for the way he plays his footy, but has a role to play and I think, does it well.

His work off the field has been outstanding in this area and is true gentlemen and leader in the Muslim community and a great ambassador for the RFC and AFL in general.

Well done Bachar.

100% Agree and don't get the stick either.
Gets plenty of the pill,
Uses it as well as any player in the team,
Never injured,
Never reported,
Never in the in the negative press.
What the hell do fans want ?

 

[tigerlandishome]

Bloody sad that simple keyboard bumblers can understand something as basic, yet the mega paid marketing n corporate types can't see beyond the brain fart in the back of their underpants.

That's because most of the marketing and corporate types don't get their jobs based on merit, but from networking, or attending the 'right' school.

 

[artball]

i doubt that Bachar would've gone to GWS anyway. Plenty here for him in and out of the game and not so sure he is a $$ chaser. and of course there is Spotswood Footy Club!!

 

[Coburgtiger]

100% Agree and don't get the stick either.
Gets plenty of the pill,
Uses it as well as any player in the team,
Never injured,
Never reported,
Never in the in the negative press.
What the hell do fans want ?

Houli definitely plays a role well, but what we want is a player who doesn't wet himself in a final. Two years, two critical game changing errors.

 

[Baloo]

Houli definitely plays a role well, but what we want is a player who doesn't wet himself in a final. Two years, two critical game changing errors.

Heh, if only we had lost both finals due to a single error.

 

[Tails]

My only knock on him is he is loose and slow to man up when the opposition has the ball. He frequently is responsible for opposition goals on turnovers.

 

[Coburgtiger]

Heh, if only we had lost both finals due to a single error.

In no way to I attribute the losses to Houli. But you need to fill a finals squad with guys that stand up under finals pressure. Which means we need a replacement for Houli.

 

[Baloo]

In no way to I attribute the losses to Houli. But you need to fill a finals squad with guys that stand up under finals pressure. Which means we need a replacement for Houli.

Houli was one of the very few running, chasing and getting the ball against Port. We would have lost by a fair bit more without him.

 

[Coburgtiger]

We needed all of that running due to an extreme lack of composure in the first quarter. And I'm not so sure about your second statement. Butterfly effect and all that but I feel like with a few less Houli types, we might have at least won the Carlton final.

 

[Baloo]

We needed all of that running due to an extreme lack of composure in the first quarter. And I'm not so sure about your second statement. Butterfly effect and all that but I feel like with a few less Houli types, we might have at least won the Carlton final.

From memory he stuffed up one bounce I think, or was it a handball. He was one of the few running and getting the ball in the first. I reckon looking up and seeing a mass of port players bearing down on you while your team mates are hiding might give people the impression you have a lack of composure. Trying to single out Houli in the final against Port is just typical of many here who going looking for reasons to take a shot at houli when it's not warranted.

If Conca didn't go down in the first against Carlton we would have won that final.

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

From memory he stuffed up one bounce I think

Rightly or wrongly it encapsulated a lot of perceptions about Houli. As a Houli supporter, I wish he hadn't done it.

 

[KiwiTig]

Rightly or wrongly it encapsulated a lot of perceptions about Houli. As a Houli supporter, I wish he hadn't done it.

Agree - it one my vivid memories from being at the game.

 

[CarnTheTiges]

From memory he stuffed up one bounce I think, or was it a handball. He was one of the few running and getting the ball in the first. I reckon looking up and seeing a mass of port players bearing down on you while your team mates are hiding might give people the impression you have a lack of composure. Trying to single out Houli in the final against Port is just typical of many here who going looking for reasons to take a shot at houli when it's not warranted.

If Conca didn't go down in the first against Carlton we would have won that final.

It was a bounce, but he worked very hard from that point on to eradicate that one thing. Bachar puts in the odd bad game, as do most players, but the good far outweighs the bad in most cases with him.

 

[T-Shirt Tommy]

It was a bounce, but he worked very hard from that point on to eradicate that one thing.

Very true, which is more than can be said for the majority of the team.

However mistakes in finals are accentuated, particularly in losing finals. And he's made big blues in both.

 

[Tenacious]

It was a bounce, but he worked very hard from that point on to eradicate that one thing. Bachar puts in the odd bad game, as do most players, but the good far outweighs the bad in most cases with him.

Spot on. It was a awful thing to have happened and at the wrong time too (never a right time really unless maybe when a team is about 20 goals up).
But sh!te happens. It didn't cost us that game that's for sure.
And Bachar has been a worthy contributor to the team over the past few seasons. And he's been a nice bloke too.
Of course it would be a good sign for our Club if Houli maintains his best form - but then struggled to keep his spot in the team.
It'd be great if someone like Lennon or C Ellis or McIntosh or even one of our almost unknowns sprang out of the pack to became a new star running defender.

 

[Tiger68]

100% Agree and don't get the stick either.
Gets plenty of the pill,
Uses it as well as any player in the team,
Never injured,
Never reported,
Never in the in the negative press.
What the hell do fans want ?

I don't rate Houli at all - and here is my rationale:

Gets plenty of the pill, (He plays the loose man and is given 95% of his disposals and is not damaging enough with them - check his contested/uncontested possessions stats)
Uses it as well as any player in the team, (Can only kick on one side and is a poor decision maker, often going sideways, I don't agree that he is a good user of the footy)
Never injured, (He will never get injured because he is unwilling to put his body on the line, I would rate him amongst the softest players in the AFL)
Never reported, (Same)
Never in the in the negative press. (Good citizen, no doubt)
What the hell do fans want ? (I want a player off half back who is more accountable, good ball user on both sides of his body, willing to absorb pressure without coffing up the ball, wins his own footy and doesn't continually ask for the footy backwards of play)

I think we need to better than Houli off half back if we are to seriously improve. Houli is not a finals footballer imo.

 

[scottyturnerscurse]

Good player. Could be better but who couldn't? Would be in the best 22 in nearly ever team in the league.

 

[spook]

I don't rate Houli at all - and here is my rationale:

Gets plenty of the pill, (He plays the loose man and is given 95% of his disposals and is not damaging enough with them - check his contested/uncontested possessions stats)
Uses it as well as any player in the team, (Can only kick on one side and is a poor decision maker, often going sideways, I don't agree that he is a good user of the footy)
Never injured, (He will never get injured because he is unwilling to put his body on the line, I would rate him amongst the softest players in the AFL)
Never reported, (Same)
Never in the in the negative press. (Good citizen, no doubt)
What the hell do fans want ? (I want a player off half back who is more accountable, good ball user on both sides of his body, willing to absorb pressure without coffing up the ball, wins his own footy and doesn't continually ask for the footy backwards of play)

I think we need to better than Houli off half back if we are to seriously improve. Houli is not a finals footballer imo.

This post might have been relevant three-four years ago.