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Alex Rance

SCOOP said:
I would say Rance is already a better user of the ball then Muscles McGuane. And Rance is 50 times more creative as a footballer, Rance will run and carry and get involved with link ups. McGuane doesn't.

Very True Scoop.

He runs off very hard & very regularly.
 
barty boy said:
Ae this stage I'll stick with McGuane as he has the runs on the board.Rance although promising still has...?

Has the runs on the board, has just reached double figures. In all seriousness McGuane has alot to prove to say he has the runs on the board.
 
I'm not sure what more could have been asked of Luke this year. rarely destroyed. Formed a solid work ethic and understanding with Will and Kelvin. Took some big scalps.

For a guy that most had classed as a Dud not that long ago, I thought he had a very good year.
 
Baloo said:
I'm not sure what more could have been asked of Luke this year. rarely destroyed. Formed a solid work ethic and understanding with Will and Kelvin. Took some big scalps.

For a guy that most had classed as a Dud not that long ago, I thought he had a very good year.

Agree balooga, 2008 saw him rewarded with the coaching staff award at the B&F.
If Rance can keep McGuane in the twos we'll be becoming a pretty good side and have a very handy player in Alex.
 
A question for you guys:

Can we go forward with a regular backline of Thursfield, McGuane, Rance and Moore?



- Moore would probably start attacking more but have a good defensive mindset (like a Joel Bowden in his prime).

- Thursfield will be the premier FB stopper getting involved in occassional link up.

- Rance running off his man creating lines down the field and covering loose players with his hard running.

- McGuane a kind of 3rd tall keeping one eye on everybody else's man in a largely negating role with attacking opportunities.
 
benny_furs said:
A question for you guys:

Can we go forward with a regular backline of Thursfield, McGuane, Rance and Moore?



- Moore would probably start attacking more but have a good defensive mindset (like a Joel Bowden in his prime).

- Thursfield will be the premier FB stopper getting involved in occassional link up.

- Rance running off his man creating lines down the field and covering loose players with his hard running.

- McGuane a kind of 3rd tall keeping one eye on everybody else's man in a largely negating role with attacking opportunities.

They had a backline of Moore, McGuane, Schulz and Thursfield in the second half of the season, quite successfully. From what I have seen of these players they all have the ability to play on different types of opponents, which is a real strength.

By the end of the season, Moore was getting the number 1 forward and McGuane, the number 2. Thursfield stayed closer to the opposition goal and was playing on small to medium forwards like Mark Williams. Schulz was playing the LMID role, pushing up to the wings. Moore and McGuane often switched opponents, esp if Moore was in trouble.

Rance could easily do this as well. From my perspective, what I think we now need is for someone like Rance to push through and take a more responsible defensive role on either the number 1 or the number 2 forward. This will then free up both Moore and Thursfield for the medium to smalls, where their pace becomes more useful.

I can see McGuane and Rance in the key posts by the end of 2009. If that happens, and the others continue on their improvemnt curve, we will see some low scores kicked against us ove the next few years. Moore, Thursfield and McGuane are all very good shutdown players.
 
TOT70 said:
They had a backline of Moore, McGuane, Schulz and Thursfield in the second half of the season, quite successfully. From what I have seen of these players they all have the ability to play on different types of opponents, which is a real strength.

By the end of the season, Moore was getting the number 1 forward and McGuane, the number 2. Thursfield stayed closer to the opposition goal and was playing on small to medium forwards like Mark Williams. Schulz was playing the LMID role, pushing up to the wings. Moore and McGuane often switched opponents, esp if Moore was in trouble.

Rance could easily do this as well. From my perspective, what I think we now need is for someone like Rance to push through and take a more responsible defensive role on either the number 1 or the number 2 forward. This will then free up both Moore and Thursfield for the medium to smalls, where their pace becomes more useful.

I can see McGuane and Rance in the key posts by the end of 2009. If that happens, and the others continue on their improvemnt curve, we will see some low scores kicked against us ove the next few years. Moore, Thursfield and McGuane are all very good shutdown players.

Agree, nice post.
 
benny_furs said:
A question for you guys:

Can we go forward with a regular backline of Thursfield, McGuane, Rance and Moore?



- Moore would probably start attacking more but have a good defensive mindset (like a Joel Bowden in his prime).

- Thursfield will be the premier FB stopper getting involved in occassional link up.

- Rance running off his man creating lines down the field and covering loose players with his hard running.

- McGuane a kind of 3rd tall keeping one eye on everybody else's man in a largely negating role with attacking opportunities.

Looks good. But who is going to stop those little, stinky runts like Milne and Betts etc kicking bags against us??
 
BrisTiger24 said:
Looks good. But who is going to stop those little, stinky runts like Milne and Betts etc kicking bags against us??

Easy Brissy.
The shutting down maestro himself.....Pedro!! :hihi
 
TOT70 said:
Rance could easily do this as well. From my perspective, what I think we now need is for someone like Rance to push through and take a more responsible defensive role on either the number 1 or the number 2 forward. This will then free up both Moore and Thursfield for the medium to smalls, where their pace becomes more useful.

I can see McGuane and Rance in the key posts by the end of 2009. If that happens, and the others continue on their improvemnt curve, we will see some low scores kicked against us ove the next few years. Moore, Thursfield and McGuane are all very good shutdown players.

Rance is a ways off becoming that player. He's far more natural playing off the half back line to leysy's eye.
He may become more composed & accustomed to playing closer to goal as his career moves on.

On Moore & McGuane's pace being more useful on mediums to smalls ToO. Leysy would argue that there pace & leap is actually better off on the bigger slower types. Moore showed this year when he played on near all the big key forward types & was very rarely beaten.

With modern rules as they are, it's far easier to sit just off opponents & use your athleticism to bring the ball to ground rather than try to grapple & be exposed for pace against the nippy forwards that most teams possess.
 
TOT70 said:
They had a backline of Moore, McGuane, Schulz and Thursfield in the second half of the season, quite successfully. From what I have seen of these players they all have the ability to play on different types of opponents, which is a real strength.

By that I see it's not actually McGuane that Rance is challenging for a place but Schulz at HB.
Personally I think Jay should be lining up at CHF anyway so that solves that issue.
 
Leysy Days said:
With modern rules as they are, it's far easier to sit just off opponents & use your athleticism to bring the ball to ground rather than try to grapple & be exposed for pace against the nippy forwards that most teams possess.

JON has athleticism ;D

seriously wouldn't be a bad idea trying him in the BP
should have the speed and agility to match it with the small forwards
and should easily beat them in the air

worth a try
 
davidrodan said:
JON has athleticism ;D

seriously wouldn't be a bad idea trying him in the BP
should have the speed and agility to match it with the small forwards
and should easily beat them in the air

worth a try

As much as it pains me to pick on the ultimate soft target, Terry agreed with your suggestion and tried it against Port. JoN couldn’t handle it.
 
Col.W.Kurtz said:
As much as it pains me to pick on the ultimate soft target, Terry agreed with your suggestion and tried it against Port. JoN couldn’t handle it.

JON has the athleticism and speed to go with the runts. It's the awareness and smarts that he lacks for this role. The little guys are good at losing their opponent in traffic to get the crumbs or to sag off for an easy goal. Unfortunately JON is not so good at finding them again. I hear JON picked up 'Where's Wally' as a kid and just couldn't work it all out :-\
 
BrisTiger24 said:
JON has the athleticism and speed to go with the runts. It's the awareness and smarts that he lacks for this role. The little guys are good at losing their opponent in traffic to get the crumbs or to sag off for an easy goal. Unfortunately JON is not so good at finding them again. I hear JON picked up 'Where's Wally' as a kid and just couldn't work it all out :-\
Agree :hihi
 
BrisTiger24 said:
JON has the athleticism and speed to go with the runts. It's the awareness and smarts that he lacks for this role. The little guys are good at losing their opponent in traffic to get the crumbs or to sag off for an easy goal. Unfortunately JON is not so good at finding them again. I hear JON picked up 'Where's Wally' as a kid and just couldn't work it all out :-\

Spot on there BT.

As you say JON just doesn't have the smarts & awareness to play close to goal. Or most places unfortunately.
 
Maybe Chimpa can teach him

He can be the master and JON his apprentice

'AFL for dummies' might be a wise investment too
 
Given that JON (whether under pressure or not) can't hit the side of a barn I don't want him anywhere near the backline as his skill errors will result in opposition shots at goal!

In fact his best position is in the top deck of the grandstand! Pretty sure he can't hurt us there!
;D

Seriously I think if he wasn't under contract he would have been long gone! And I've seen him play for Coburg. He makes the same mistakes, whereas someone like Chippendale goes back and looks a cut above them.
JON unfortunately does not look like that at the Burgers.

Another draft selection we got wrong! :mad: