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Adem Yze

gold1 said:
that is two more than we have.Think you need to look at who is consistently scoring goals in the five clubs I listed.
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Not three power forwards.
Two tops with a genuine small forward and mids so can crash towards goal and hit the scoreboard
I agree with you guys like Kosi, Mansell , Kmac and co aren’t going to win you many games as they’re below afl standard.
Green and Campbell are going to be be very good players in the forward line and Campbell could even play wing with a bigger tank.
The problem is as you said earlier we need power forwards and three is an unlikely option as no club has them and they’re expensive for a list to hold on to. We just need the Jack and Lynch combo which was greater than the McKay and Curnow combo.
 
David King let lose 'he sat on his hands watching Prestia Hopper & Tarranto butcher the ball"
Baker 6 centre bounces won 2
Didn't go in there in the last qtr.
 
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tigerlove said:
Take away the Fremantle game, since round 16 our opponents have kicked amazingly straight 81goals 41 behinds. What do we put that down to? I think diabical turnovers and letting teams easily transition through the corridor too often (our lack of pace) .
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Think you're on the money T Love.
Turnovers are happening in that centre corridor, as Yze is pushing an aggressive ball movement. The bad guys are getting easy ball and hit up their forwards in space because of the diabolical turnovers.
If we tighten our ball use its gotta help.
Is it experience and composure?

And centre clearances are waltzing out the front door. We seem to be too aggressive.
Its not the cattle, weve had Taranto Hopps and Prestia.
Its time for Rioli.
And wings need to be charging in for support.
I hope we see change /improvement over preseason
 
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tigertim said:
We went at 36% accuracy yesterday and 31% the week before, 50% v GWS and 36% v Freo.

if we did everything the same but had a few blokes kick the ball straighter at goal we win 2 of those games and have “honourable losses” in the other 2. And our opinion of Yze would be reasonably positive right now I’d predict.
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Death, taxes and a RFC score line consisting of more behinds than goals.
 
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Little Ziggyadee said:
David King let lose 'he sat on his hands watching Prestia Hopper & Tarranto butcher the ball"
Baker 6 centre bounces won 2
Didn't go in there in the last qtr.
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King is an idiot.
We had no problem getting the ball inside 50 in the last, we peppered the forward 50.
That wasn’t the issue
 
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Sintiger said:
King is an idiot.
We had no problem getting the ball inside 50 in the last, we peppered the forward 50.
That wasn’t the issue
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King is a great analyst and is bang on. The entries were putrid and those 3 are hacks of the footy. If you didn’t see that watching the game you better go to specsavers.
 
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Tigga94 said:
do you think coaches actually do this? Interesting thought. I think Adem didn’t do all he could to win the match.
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What I think is Adem is told to relax about ladder position and to concentrate on setting up his tactical platform.

If that means seeing who holds up in the middle, whether it be Dow, McA or whoever, then so be it.

If it means holding some potentially game-winning moves up his sleeve in the name of drilling his troops consistently, then so be it.

He’s coaching as much for the future as he is for now.

This is the concept many on PRE (not you) don’t seem to understand.
 
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Little Ziggyadee said:
David King let lose 'he sat on his hands watching Prestia Hopper & Tarranto butcher the ball"
Baker 6 centre bounces won 2
Didn't go in there in the last qtr.
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Pretty poor analysis if that’s the boofheads take
We actually won total clearances 39-33 and Centre clearances 11-10
With 60-44 i50s it tells me that our f50 is bs , but hey I’m not a paid footy analyst
 
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BillyJean17 said:
Pretty poor analysis if that’s the boofheads take
We actually won total clearances 39-33 and Centre clearances 11-10
With 60-44 i50s it tells me that our f50 is bs , but hey I’m not a paid footy analyst
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You would have failed their critical thinking test.
 
BillyJean17 said:
Pretty poor analysis if that’s the boofheads take
We actually won total clearances 39-33 and Centre clearances 11-10
With 60-44 i50s it tells me that our f50 is bs , but hey I’m not a paid footy analyst
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That wasn't his point I don't think. His point was that Prestia, Taranto and Hopper had kicking efficiency rates of 20%, 36% and 37% respectively and were butchering the football and as such, leaving them all in the midfield at the same time was crazy. We just kept turning it over in the midfield time and time again. (If in fact, those kicking numbers were correct. They seem too bad to be true even by our deplorable standards).

Note: not sure how much TOG with them all being out there together they had. Dunno where he's getting any time numbers from, if at all.
 
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Not sure what to read into the inside 50 count. Would be one of the few times this year that we have won it.

So far this year we are 16th for inside fifties. Only you guessed it WCE and NM are behind us.

When it comes to clearances we are stone motherless last. When it comes to contested possessions we are again stone motherless last.

Our leading contested ball winner and clearance player is our ruckman.

Imo we lack mids with speed and power who can break away from a contest and hit targets.
 
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Redford said:
That wasn't his point I don't think. His point was that Prestia, Taranto and Hopper had kicking efficiency rates of 20%, 36% and 37% respectively and were butchering the football and as such, leaving them all in the midfield at the same time was crazy. We just kept turning it over in the midfield time and time again. (If in fact, those kicking numbers were correct. They seem too bad to be true even by our deplorable standards).

Note: not sure how much TOG with them all being out there together they had. Dunno where he's getting any time numbers from, if at all.
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Our kicking has been poor all season.
Have we changed our footy boots to crocs?
 
Tigga94 said:
You think he’s analysis is poor after all those stats and we lose the game? He’s bang on.
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Yes I do think his analysis poor, he carps about clearances , we actually win in that area , it’s our inability to score why we re losing ea week , 60 entries to 44 it’s bleeding obvious where the fault is and it’s not supply , was same v pies
 
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The_General said:
My point is, they may think he "is up to it", but don't want to be a part of a rebuild as they've been to the top and don't want to go back to the bottom.

That's reality. And it doesn't matter how much a coach sells a picture, if someone wants a short cut to the top (like Dimma did), they'll take it.

Players also leave, because the coach wants to develop other players in a position and the incumbent doesn't want to step aside.

Its more complex than "my boss is bad, im going"

Its not a binary world, where things are so absolute.
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In the defence of players like Rioli thinking of leaving.
Can you imagine having gone from the worst to the best, under the tutelage of Cotchin, Reiwoldt, Rance etc. Our leaders were really excellent and massive in turning around the club.

Now you've got Yze talking rebuild, but we are missing those player leaders. I'd struggle to have faith too, at least for a few years, and that's their entire remaining career.
 
AFAIC we are losing games for one reason. NO FORWARDS!! Certainly no big forwards. Koz is just a big lump of decoration.
 
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