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Adem Yze
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Correct. It’s a confidence issue play the good teams don’t give you the corridor. At our absolute peak we used to open teams up. But that’s with players with experience and confidence to take the game on.
We have kids. The natural confidence isn’t there and don’t always have the confidence to pull the trigger.
So the six goals we kicked by surging and overlap running didn't occur.
Ohh and our pressure rating was above Port's in the first half and dropped off. That's what happens with young sides.
There were some glimpses tonight, like there have been the past couple of weeks. Add Tim and Nank plays the last quarter the scores may well have been closer. That's without all the other first choice players we have missing.
Tell me you didn't watch the game, without telling me you didn't watch the game.
My point is, if watching the Tigers is so unendurable, and watching the Hawks is. Go watch them and go to Hawk talk or whatever the hell it's called.
You're not a tiger, you're a troll.
Correct
We can’t score
That’s the lack of a game plan
You can lose games but we clearly haven’t got the game style and pattern of play to out score our opponent
We fail dismally to hold the ball inside F50
Without looking it up, I suggest intercept marks in our F50 against us would be a league high
You keep crapping on as if Yze's been coach for 3 years. It's all a matter of trial and error and takes time.
No point posting facts HK.
Some people think Yze has Riewoldt Cotchin Martin and Rance at his disposal.
Could Sam Mitchell not coach two years ago when Hawthorn couldnt get on the board? Looks like he can now when they are winning. It is gonna take time for kids to get up to scratch and players to gel and understand each other, let alone the game plan. We are winning a lot of key metrics and showing good signs. I am optimistic. A lot of people still have their winning goggles on and dont realise taking a few steps back to go forward is natural.
Makes very few moves in game. Very conservative.
The sub is an afterthought.
Selection has been baffling at times. Blight not in, Balta forward seems a given right now.
Handling of Martin situation.
Public messaging has been Captain Fluffy.
I’m not at alarm bells but my eye brows are raised.
The sub is an afterthought.
Selection has been baffling at times. Blight not in, Balta forward seems a given right now.
Handling of Martin situation.
Public messaging has been Captain Fluffy.
I’m not at alarm bells but my eye brows are raised.
It's a fair fall from grace to be sure
West Coast came pretty close 2 years ago except for lol norf "beating" them on percentage for 2018-2022
Plenty of teams that have finished season 1st or 2nd and been spooners a few years later - you can see how this could happen with a number of senior players all falling off a cliff together and maybe some other form / injury type issues to younger players.
You don’t want to be bringing out facts and logic after a loss smoking. It’s a waste of effort as the darksiders are having a great time and loving it.
I thought Yze tried a lot tonight and we did attempt to move the ball at speed and sometimes very effectively.
We just need to keep on going back to the well but the lack of effective key forwards stood out like dog’s testicles.
I suspect we will get better over the coming weeks and may well surprise someone on the run home.
The perfect coach to lead us to more spoons and early draft picks until the next guy steps in and hopefully takes us somewhere.
Agree with this. It’s a tough gig but he’s getting a bit wrong and his use of the sub has been abysmal at times.
Not sure how demanding and uncompromising he is. Certainly doesn’t show in public.
He’s got time but he wouldn’t want to have us 2-16 this time next year. Things will get interesting if that happens.
Shouldn’t survive if that happens. Newman will probably end up coaching by then.
And the Hawks finished 16th last year.
They have levelled up and are really starting to gel. They clearly have confidence in what to expect from teammates (which as you stated takes time) and are now starting to play as a well drilled unit.
I wonder what some of the coaching geniuses on here would have been saying about Hawthorn last year when plays were breaking down due to a lack of cohesion? (which would have probably been assessed as a horrible game plan).
Or what would have been said when their defence was caught out due to not folding back quick enough? (probably would have been described as lazy or gutless defending)
The notion that Ooze should have been able to achieve the same level of cohesion with the current list balance and injury list is laughable.
But when anyone points out any facts about the situation that the team is in or any reasons as to why certain things are occurring (or not occurring in a game) this is sidestepped entirely and the discussion quickly changes to something else, like pointing at the final score, or inside 50’s or whatever.
As if game statistics that aren’t in your favour are some kind of undeniable proof of the coach not being good enough or the team not trying hard enough.
Yes there are things that are going wrong, but they are symptoms of a variety of things that include game experience, fatigue (for players not seasoned), not enough playing time with one another and structural deficiencies due to the lack of certain types of players. (I.e: a genuine *smile* key forward)
Anyone that was watching the game tonight would have seen patches of great play that the team was unable to sustain for 4 Qtrs. (Unless they were only looking for things to criticise, and then present as proof that Ooze can’t coach)
Some of the comments on here are nothing more than shallow analysis wrapped up in misplaced pravado with the stench of winni blues pouring out of the mouth of the loud guy at the pub who doesn’t realise he’s told everyone the same story four times already and that no one is interested.
