2024 Draft Thread

[Don’t Argue]

Integrity of the draft? Lolz.

If you don’t reckon the deal with Brisbane has a nod and a wink you cray.

What’s best for Richmond. That’s it nothing more.

According to the brains trust on here, those handshake deals don’t get done.
Also if the mantra is only what’s good for Richmond, then we won’t bid on Ashcroft.
I personally believe the deal was done when we swapped picks but if it wasn’t, I’d be bidding on him because he’s the best player in the draft and that’s what it’s about.
BTW that’s what Blair actually said regarding draft integrity

 

[caesar]

A newish poster on bf ,who's been very accurate this trade period has said that we love pick 6 as we feel we get the same quality as pick 2 but with less worry about choice happy to take the left over of top 6.
Also said lalor is considered a fair bit above fos whom the club doesn't see as a Richmond type of pick player.
Said we would need a big offer to shift away our top 4 picks and that pick 18 will get us a really good future 1st,we would draft 6-7 players depending on what happens.

The only thing that doesn't ring true on this supposed 'inside info' is believing the club is saying that FOS is NOT a Richmond type player, a highly doubt that.

 

[Dyer'ere]

The only thing that doesn't ring true on this supposed 'inside info' is believing the club is saying that FOS is NOT a Richmond type player, a highly doubt that.

Even if we are in love with FOS, caesar, it makes sense to posture otherwise right now.

 

[caesar]

Even if we are in love with FOS, caesar, it makes sense to posture otherwise right now.

RFC thinks FOS is a dud so he lasts till pick 6

 

[bullus_hit]

The only thing that doesn't ring true on this supposed 'inside info' is believing the club is saying that FOS is NOT a Richmond type player, a highly doubt that.

But is he a Francis Jackson type? When I look at past decisions like Conca over Heppell & Corey Ellis over Weller I'm not entirely convinced he would appeal as a number 1 pick.

 

[Rfc4Ever]

I'm uneasy with Lalor @ 1.
Does he stand out that much? 10 week hammy injury...

 

[momentai]

The only thing we know about how this is going to drop is that we know very little.

We have traded away our two best players.

We need mids; we need KPP’s at both ends and we need leaders. Sooner rather than later our only competitive ruck and our best remaining forward will retire, while our best remaining back will play on, this despite his history of concussion injury.

Hoping for the best and it is fortunate that we have such a hand in it. There are 9 vacancies. 8 after Blair honours an undertaking to re draft Colina.

Be very surprised if we trade any of our first 6 picks.

 

[caesar]

But is he a Francis Jackson type? When I look at past decisions like Conca over Heppell & Corey Ellis over Weller I'm not entirely convinced he would appeal as a number 1 pick.

So Francis Jackson recruited Corey Ellis who ended up being somewhat timid and slow, I'm sure we won't go down that track again.
I'm ok with FOS not going at #1, but he is the anti Corey Ellis.
So what is Francis Jackson's type? surely a Freudian slip mentioning Corey as an example?

 

[bullus_hit]

I'm uneasy with Lalor @ 1.
Does he stand out that much? 10 week hammy injury...

High risk, high reward, but there's definitely bust potential here. The worst case scenario is a repeat of the Nathan Freeman experience, we've already had a taste with Gibcus being sidelined with soft tissue injuries, we cannot afford another stop, start career, particularly when you can pick any other player in the pool, healthy or otherwise.

 

[nikolasmia]

High risk, high reward, but there's definitely bust potential here. The worst case scenario is a repeat of the Nathan Freeman experience, we've already had a taste with Gibcus being sidelined with soft tissue injuries, we cannot afford another stop, start career, particularly when you can pick any other player in the pool, healthy or otherwise.

Lalor is a proper leader, not sure if FOS is

 

[bullus_hit]

So Francis Jackson recruited Corey Ellis who ended up being somewhat timid and slow, I'm sure we won't go down that track again.
I'm ok with FOS not going at #1, but he is the anti Corey Ellis.
So what is Francis Jackson's type? surely a Freudian slip mentioning Corey as an example?

Jackson has always liked blue collar, no frills types, usually with a better inside game than outside. He did pick Edwards but in the second round, at pick one I can see him gravitating towards Lalor, that looks more like his style based on prior history.

 

[Mr Brightside]

The only thing that doesn't ring true on this supposed 'inside info' is believing the club is saying that FOS is NOT a Richmond type player, a highly doubt that.

I can understand that as FOS looks like a gun

 

[Willo]

Jackson has always liked blue collar, no frills types, usually with a better inside game than outside. He did pick Edwards but in the second round, at pick one I can see him gravitating towards Lalor, that looks more like his style based on prior history.

Pity he didn’t take Luke Parker instead of Jake Batchelor then. Big big miss.

 

[bullus_hit]

Pity he didn’t take Luke Parker instead of Jake Batchelor then. Big big miss.

Yes, that was the biggest head scratcher of his career, Parker was so bleedingly obvious that most on here were screaming from the rafters (myself included).

 

[Tigertool]

Also said lalor is considered a fair bit above fos whom the club doesn't see as a Richmond type of pick player.

A reminder on Finn’s one limited-game-time VFL game with us

“I was really excited by Finn's game. He looked a class above the level. The really impressive thing from Finn was the fact that he probably could have thrown the towel in after a really heavy knock in the first quarter that reduced his time up the ground and around the footy, but he put his hand up to stay out on the field for the team and just looked really classy with ball in hand, made some really good decisions, and showed his lateral movement and strength in contest. Really exciting to see him step up and match it with senior players at VFL level.”

 

[The_General]

So Francis Jackson recruited Corey Ellis who ended up being somewhat timid and slow, I'm sure we won't go down that track again.
I'm ok with FOS not going at #1, but he is the anti Corey Ellis.
So what is Francis Jackson's type? surely a Freudian slip mentioning Corey as an example?

Agree. Brandon Ellis was also a Francis Jackson type. Liam Duggan was also a Francis Jackson type, but he got taken before our pick. Dan Rioli. Dusty Martin.

Pretty sure there's no "types", just who they think will project to be a better player. Sometimes they'll get it wrong. Sometimes it was the right pick, but we developed them wrong, or the player just didn't want it enough.

 

[turk-d-tiger]

High risk, high reward, but there's definitely bust potential here. The worst case scenario is a repeat of the Nathan Freeman experience, we've already had a taste with Gibcus being sidelined with soft tissue injuries, we cannot afford another stop, start career, particularly when you can pick any other player in the pool, healthy or otherwise.

Re : Gibcus

Were there any injury concerns with Gibcus prior to the draft ?
Selwood , Judd , Cotchin all had issue's but worked out brilliantly

I think in this draft we can take that Risk and Lalor becoming a star if we dont select him would be another franklin type miss
he just has so many weapons not to make it.

How much of the string injury could be attributed to pre season preparation and correct training methods
Listening to him speak he just screams leader and professional

 

[Mr Brightside]

Again after watching a little more “tapes” not sure there’s the A Grade depth that many in the media are saying , imho there’s a great depth of B Grade talent , also see FOS and Lalor as clear best so I do think having pick 1 as a bigger advantage then most think , after that next bunch of genuine mids , it becomes a real bunch of handy flankers , “ potential “ talls and solid looking role players , I think it’s more even not because of so much talent but just good footballers . Love to get a couple of good talls , however I’m apprehensive with giving up to many high picks with so many questions on a few of this bunch , there will be some good maybe very good future forwards , just taking the right one or 2 in this crop is the hugely important task Blair , Frank and the late CT have .

I think we must go best available at least until 18 and again against the grain I see Horton and Trainor as “ better risks “ then a few of these highly talked talks who simply are not going to be anything more then handy .

Geez I hope we can land Lalor and FOS only trade up id do ( excluding future 1st from a dud club) , if not Lalor and one of the second tier ( imho) mids will have to do ….. again must get “ elite” mids and more then handy s everywhere else

 

[bullus_hit]

Re : Gibcus

Were there any injury concerns with Gibcus prior to the draft ?
Selwood , Judd , Cotchin all had issue's but worked out brilliantly

I think in this draft we can take that Risk and Lalor becoming a star if we dont select him would be another franklin type miss
he just has so many weapons not to make it.

How much of the string injury could be attributed to pre season preparation and correct training methods
Listening to him speak he just screams leader and professional

Gibcus was fit and healthy before the draft but that's not the point, Lalor has an injury history, these are facts and not just speculation. Combine that with a lack of onball exposure at state level and an undeveloped tank and you have potential fault lines which could derail his progress.

 

[caesar]

A newish poster on bf ,who's been very accurate this trade period has said that we love pick 6 as we feel we get the same quality as pick 2 but with less worry about choice happy to take the left over of top 6.
Also said lalor is considered a fair bit above fos whom the club doesn't see as a Richmond type of pick player.
Said we would need a big offer to shift away our top 4 picks and that pick 18 will get us a really good future 1st,we would draft 6-7 players depending on what happens.

Ok, I did go onto Big Footy and that particular poster did go into great detail and regardless of how accurate it is it is all quite feasible and an interesting read so thanks for drawing my attention to it.

Cheers