2024 Draft Thread

[Mr Brightside]

Stocks rising Leysy, if say Langford & Smith were unavailable at 6 I'd be very tempted. But if we trade for pick 2 and take Tauru we'll shatter Thursty's trust and we'll probably never be cutting a favourable deal whilst he's at the helm. The looks on the Kangas faces would be gold however, it would be worth the entrance fee to see a room full of exploding tomatoes.

Bugger em Bully , its clubs like ours that have kept their pitiful little club afloat , won’t be long and the entire club will be based out of a 1984 Scalia school bus , travelling around the country playing at what ever football club will let them use their ground and has the capacity to fit in their 77 members .

 

[year of the tiger]

I've been thinking of the importance of leadership traits in our first pick. Who is our next Cotchin.

Who is the guy who may be very talented but is also prepared to sacrifice his game for the greater good when ur team is 3 goals down in a prelim final to then let ur mate who is second pick do the flashy stuff to win the North Smiths.

That's why if we get 1 & 2 I pick Smith then Lalor. I see a lot of Cotch in Smith - very professional and gets it done. Very coachable and self aware. Deserves the cash for his season as first pick as well.

If we "only" have 1 & 6 I still pick Smith at 1 and maybe Langford at 6, or Reid, or Smilie. It's about leadership for me.

Even with #1 and #2 I would be tempted with #1 Smith and #2 Langford - you build culture high performing teams around players like these.

If for some fluke we had #6 as well, Tauru is our man………….

 

[TigerMasochist]

I think this draft is very closely aligned to the Rayner draft, I think Smith is the Andy Brayshaw in the pack and will probably have a similar development curve. Would you be happy having overlooked Rayner & LDU? I would be fine, I reckon LDU is the more impactful player but misses plenty of football, Rayner just a humble forward flanker. 200 games at Brayshaw level is a win from my perspective.

Just asking questions n thinking out loud. Know about three fifths of bugger all about the youngsters coming through so just having a sniff around as to what we might expect to get out of who we draft. Plenty reckon Jagga's the bees knees n others simply rate him a top 10 but not the premium pick. Soon as we pick them I'll start cheering for them n hoping they're all 300 game multi flag champions.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Surely if that's the case, we need to be thinking about another key defender. 2 already for Gibcus.

Thought it was 1 knee n 1 mega hammy for Gibber. 2 knees for Clarkey n Liftmykiltup.

 

[Tortured Tiger]

Even with #1 and #2 I would be tempted with #1 Smith and #2 Langford - you build culture high performing teams around players like these.

If for some fluke we had #6 as well, Tauru is our man………….

I think FOS and Lalor were co captains of Vic Country so they should be fine as well. From the interviews I have seen the top group of kids all seem well adjusted and should be an asset to any footy club.

 

[bullus_hit]

Even with #1 and #2 I would be tempted with #1 Smith and #2 Langford - you build culture high performing teams around players like these.

If for some fluke we had #6 as well, Tauru is our man………….

I would be very pleased with those two, Tauru would also be an excellent addition, nothing wrong with that haul.

 

[Webbie26]

Richo went ok after doing his knee early in his career

Richo was an awkward landing against the fence at the scg totally different way of doing a knee than a simple change of direction there a knees and then there are knees dont touch the player as i stated earlier hotton is in the do not touch category

 

[wigglyworm]

He was 194cm as of a couple of months ago. Maybe more now.

He been hanging out with Tom Brown no doubt.

 

[Steely Danzig]

Marc McGowan has surprised me with his two most recent ratings.

We all agree that Twomey can link player to club. It's the Twomey thing. He's God.

McGowan writes recruiter mail. Not his opinion. He dispenses with his own opinion. (It's like he's a journalist.) He surveys recruiters and gets their opinions. And writes them up in a semi anonymous way. Some of the pots he writes are hilarious and perhaps accurate.

I love this one from 01 Nov -

19. Ollie Hannaford (GWS Giants)​

GWV Rebels/Vic Country
Forward, 180cm, 1/9/2006
Talent League stats (avg): 16.7 disposals, 9.5 contested possessions, 1.2 goals
The Age’s August top 30: N/A October top 30: 20
Agility test: 7.92 secs 20m sprint: 2.95 secs 2km time trial: 7:26 mins

Hannaford’s draft stocks rocketed in the last two months of the year, with his mid-season switch to attack unlocking his potential after he started down back. He is tough as nails, ultra-competitive and boasts a great combination of speed and power – as evidenced at the Victorian combine – that makes him a match-up nightmare. Hannaford’s 2km time was underwhelming, but recruiters largely dismissed it as an issue and were confident he would improve in an AFL system rather than living in a boarding house.


Does Hannaford stop for a durrie when on a 2km trip to the shops? Weak. Any player can smoke while he runs. *smile* this boarding house mansion. This Hannaford toff can sleep with the horses and race them. They smoke more than he does. And faster.

I think we're all tired of this woke ermergerd Hannaford victim narrative. It's nobody else's doing that he smokes the sawdust we provide him when he's supposed to eat it.

Hannaford Hannaford. All others is cagmannaford.

On my own opinion here, I think Hannaford can improve his smoking, his nutrition and his 2km if he can just find accommodation fit for a human. Or even a horse. I've got him about 15.

The next Robbie McGhie?

 

[Tigerdog]

Richo was an awkward landing against the fence at the scg totally different way of doing a knee than a simple change of direction there a knees and then there are knees dont touch the player as i stated earlier hotton is in the do not touch category

After he was shoved hard in the back by dog Dunkley. I’ve never forgiven him for that

 

[123cups]

I've been thinking of the importance of leadership traits in our first pick. Who is our next Cotchin.

Our first 3 consecutive first rounders to start the dynasty rebuild were:

Pick 13: Vice captain
Pick 2: Captain
Pick 18: Dep Vice Captain

Lids was a star and gets a bit of a bum rap on here at times because he left.
If he was starting his career now he would be a perfect hybrid mid who could play anywhere. Quick, kicks really well, marks very well.
Some question him as a person but I have no idea about that. I listen to Dylan Buckleys podcast a bit and he is great, actually quite self deprecating, maybe he has matured and grown up?

I think Lids would've been a much better player (and leader) if he was drafted to the club today.

He was an elite athlete. Clean, classy, blistering pace, strong hands (kicked 5 against Carlton in round 1 one year as a full forward with bad hair). My fav quarter was the one with 3 classy first quarter goals against Hawthorn. Limitless player, physically... but he grew up in a clicky, ego-ridden environment in the dark old days led by the likes of Nathan Brown and coached under the empty calculations of a snake oil salesman.

As a kid, he had a selfish, fragile mentality and the reality is it had a toxic effect on others. I think Dimma was humouring him by pretending it was a close call for the captaincy.

In contrast, Trent was mature beyond his years and walked into the club as the ready-made leader we needed.

Lids was the last in a long line of unfortunate talents who told the tale of a great team culture through its absence. Talent is nothing without culture and leadership.

 

[Sintiger]

Our first 3 consecutive first rounders to start the dynasty rebuild were:

Pick 13: Vice captain
Pick 2: Captain
Pick 18: Dep Vice Captain





I think Lids would've been a much better player (and leader) if he was drafted to the club today.

He was an elite athlete. Clean, classy, blistering pace, strong hands (kicked 5 against Carlton in round 1 one year as a full forward with bad hair). My fav quarter was the one with 3 classy first quarter goals against Hawthorn. Limitless player, physically... but he grew up in a clicky, ego-ridden environment in the dark old days led by the likes of Nathan Brown and coached under the empty calculations of a snake oil salesman.

As a kid, he had a selfish, fragile mentality and the reality is it had a toxic effect on others. I think Dimma was humouring him by pretending it was a close call for the captaincy.

In contrast, Trent was mature beyond his years and walked into the club as the ready-made leader we needed.

Lids was the last in a long tale of the role that a great culture has on bringing out the best in everyone. Talent is nothing without culture and leadership.

That may well be true but the other side of it is that he was and still is great friends with people like Chris Newman and Shaun Grigg who are guys who are well respected. When you listen to the Jake King talking about those days it was clear the place was not really one that could control players egos.

They were all young and plenty are boofheads when we are young.

 

[momentai]

So much emphasis here on mids to start our draft and trading up to get pick 2, but our needs across the ground (and the quality of the draft) is such that I think Blair will stick with our current first rounders.

I’ve selected a team to include the players I believe he might take.

B Vlastuin Blight* Broad
HB Hopper Tauru*(6) Trezise
C Brown Hynes*(20) Lindsay*(11)
HF Davidson*(24 split) Balta Bauer
F Campbell Lynch Shanahan*(18)
R Nankervis Taranto Lalor*(1)
I/C Allan*(10) Banks McAuliffe Mansell
Sub Prestia
TBC Gerreyn*(23) Gray* Gibcus.

 

[123cups]

That may well be true but the other side of it is that he was and still is great friends with people like Chris Newman and Shaun Grigg who are guys who are well respected. When you listen to the Jake King talking about those days it was clear the place was not really one that could control players egos.

They were all young and plenty are boofheads when we are young.

Yeah, his only way to be successful here was to turn an entire club's losing culture around single handedly (big task). Environment is everything when splitting hairs at the elite level.

Lalor looks like a natural, mature leader at a young age, but if the second guy we draft is immature like Lids, I'm confident we're in a position to help him mature a lot sooner.

 

[turk-d-tiger]

Will we taking many/ any in the rookie draft ?

Im sure we will with what rookie spots we have remaining

I think we take 6 picks in the draft and 2 rookie upgrades

 

[Mr Brightside]

Im sure we will with what rookie spots we have remaining

I think we take 6 picks in the draft and 2 rookie upgrades

Wasn’t sure as I think I saw something @taztiger4 posted the other day that we had a lot of rookies

 

[tigerlove]

So much emphasis here on mids to start our draft and trading up to get pick 2, but our needs across the ground (and the quality of the draft) is such that I think Blair will stick with our first rounders.

Looking at where we have been and where we want to be I’ve selected a team to include the players I believe he might take. Skill and performance apart I have given emphasis to playing finals, and to hardness.

B Vlastuin Blight* Broad
HB Hopper Tauru*(6) Trezise
C Brown Hynes*(20) Lindsay*(11)
HF Davidson*(24 split) Balta Bauer
F Campbell Lynch Shanahan*(18)
R Nankervis Taranto Lalor*(1)
I/C Allan*(10) Banks Gibcus Mansell
Sub Prestia
TBC Gerreyn*(23) Gray* McAuliffe.

If rumours abound that we'd be after Tauru at #6 (I haven't personally heard this anywhere) then there's no chance North would trade with us anyway unless it included #6.

 

[Punt n Brunton]

Enjoyed reading through this thread. I’m just a YouTube warrior when it comes to the kids up for grabs but picks 1 and 6 nets us two very good footballers, regardless of the combo. I personally don’t see any need to trade picks. Assuming we have our eye on Lalor at #1, it looks like it could very well be Lalor and one of Smith, Langford or Tauru. All three are quality picks at 6. From there, we have the luxury of drafting for need by best available due to the evenness of the group. Draft night 1 will be a cracker!! I’m gonna love watching this crop develop over the next few years. Go Tiges.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Im sure we will with what rookie spots we have remaining

I think we take 6 picks in the draft and 2 rookie upgrades

With 8 picks within the first 24, we'd have to upgrade or future a couple of our picks to even think about not taking all our selections. Would be crazy not to fully attack the main draft but then upgrade rookies or even take rookie / psd selections.

 

[ToraToraTora]

Our first 3 consecutive first rounders to start the dynasty rebuild were:

Pick 13: Vice captain
Pick 2: Captain
Pick 18: Dep Vice Captain





I think Lids would've been a much better player (and leader) if he was drafted to the club today.

He was an elite athlete. Clean, classy, blistering pace, strong hands (kicked 5 against Carlton in round 1 one year as a full forward with bad hair). My fav quarter was the one with 3 classy first quarter goals against Hawthorn. Limitless player, physically... but he grew up in a clicky, ego-ridden environment in the dark old days led by the likes of Nathan Brown and coached under the empty calculations of a snake oil salesman.

As a kid, he had a selfish, fragile mentality and the reality is it had a toxic effect on others. I think Dimma was humouring him by pretending it was a close call for the captaincy.

In contrast, Trent was mature beyond his years and walked into the club as the ready-made leader we needed.

Lids was the last in a long line of unfortunate talents who told the tale of a great team culture through its absence. Talent is nothing without culture and leadership.

The recent Jake King podcast with Lids was revealing in many ways. Confirmed a lot too.