2024 Draft Thread

[Sintiger]

I’m hoping the same but I think Melbourne have changed tack in the last few months. They desperately were looking for a key forward but since the whole Shopping of Clarrie and the mismanagement of Petracca they are now looking at mids.

Melbourne want a mid and a key forward and they have 5 and 9. In the end it will depend on whether they see too much risk in their target key forward not being there at 9.
The money is on them taking a mid at 5 and Armstrong at 9 but St Kilda are also keen on Armstrong.
Too many permutations because St Kilda are also looking at splitting 7 or 8.

 

[Berwick boy]

Just imho BB I certainly don’t underrate him I think he’ll be a star , I just think Lalor and Fos will be better baring unforeseen circumstances to any of the 3 footballers , Smith I’d be very confident will be looked back on in 20 years as one of the best 5 draftees from his draft

Not so much at pick 1 Mr B (I meant at all with all our picks)...could have worded it better

I for one very much hope he is there at 6...will be a steal.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Not so much at pick 1 Mr B (I meant at all with all our picks)...could have worded it better

I for one very much hope he is there at 6...will be a steal.

I understand better then anyone about “ wording it better “ Bb

 

[TigerFlag2017]

Are we willing to "reach" for Armstrong at 6 knowing there are a lot of midfielders in the draft?

Reminds me of drafting Conca ahead of Lynch.

 

[The_General]

20% ACL recurrence rate for athletes.

I’m firmly in the risk minimization camp when it comes to drafting and subsequently wouldn’t touch any player that has done an ACL.

Surely if that's the case, we need to be thinking about another key defender. 2 already for Gibcus.

 

[Mr Brightside]

Mr Bs stuck on the couch board shitless Sunday first very uneducated gut feel mock draft top 10ish

Pick 1 Richmond player number 444444 Sam Lalor GMV Rebels

2 I think if we have first 2 picks will bid here just to keep it fair but wouldn’t be shocked if we don’t bid ..Ashcroft

3 Richmond , yep I’m going with us trading with Roos for 6 , we can’t ge5 Finn O’Sullivan in a high quality Tiger polo quick enough , would could go wrong with having to gun vic country mids .

4 Carlton ….Langford , I think the blues have loved building their midfield around Cripps and as he ages they’d love to find a replacement who is also ready to go as their guns start to tick on the wrong side of peak .

5 Adelaide ….Not convinced they go Draper but this is so tough I’m going to take the easy option here.

6 Dees … something different is going to happen in the top 8 and I’m going with the “ mail “ here and say Dees select Lindsay

7 Roos… Tauru

8 & 9 Saints , gutfeel says Saints are going to get lucky in this draft I think they’ll land Smillie and Smith , can see the presser with Rosco “ we can’t believe they both were available, we had them at pick 1 and 2 “

10 Dees thank u Sin …….Dees have gone tall with private school lad Armstrong

10 Tiges Jacks cooking blue Cod and I’m going with Traviglia , though in saying that I won’t be shocked if ends up goin earlier .

My dream result in theory is landing 2 and keeping 6 and getting Lalor and Fos ( clear best imho) then picking up either Langford or Smith .

 

[tigerlove]

Criminally underrated on here is Jagga.

You can GUARANTEE if we dont pick him up we are going to hear a hundred times a week from the media (as he accumulates 30 possessions each week)...HOW did the Tigers pass up on this kid (flogs).

Don't think so. Been stated many times this year in the media that there's no clear #1 this year. Many mock drafts have different nbr 1s. Not one player looks to be the complete package. In the end teams will be choosing their midfielder type based on most pressing need. And clearly the most persistent rumours have been Lalor at #1.

 

[Sintiger]

Mr Bs stuck on the couch board shitless Sunday first very uneducated gut feel mock draft top 10ish

Pick 1 Richmond player number 444444 Sam Lalor GMV Rebels

2 I think if we have first 2 picks will bid here just to keep it fair but wouldn’t be shocked if we don’t bid ..Ashcroft

3 Richmond , yep I’m going with us trading with Roos for 6 , we can’t ge5 Finn O’Sullivan in a high quality Tiger polo quick enough , would could go wrong with having to gun vic country mids .

4 Carlton ….Langford , I think the blues have loved building their midfield around Cripps and as he ages they’d love to find a replacement who is also ready to go as their guns start to tick on the wrong side of peak .

5 Adelaide ….Not convinced they go Draper but this is so tough I’m going to take the easy option here.

6 Dees … something different is going to happen in the top 8 and I’m going with the “ mail “ here and say Dees select Lindsay

7 Roos… Tauru

8 & 9 Saints , gutfeel says Saints are going to get lucky in this draft I think they’ll land Smillie and Smith , can see the presser with Rosco “ we can’t believe they both were available, we had them at pick 1 and 2 “

10 Tiges Jacks cooking blue Cod and I’m going with Traviglia , though in saying that I won’t be shocked if ends up goin earlier .

My dream result in theory is landing 2 and keeping 6 and getting Lalor and Fos ( clear best imho) then picking up either Langford or Smith .

Did Melbourne pass on their 2nd pick ?

 

[Mr Brightside]

Did Melbourne pass on their 2nd pick ?

Yes , there trying to save money

Fixed

 

[tigerlove]

20% ACL recurrence rate for athletes.

I’m firmly in the risk minimization camp when it comes to drafting and subsequently wouldn’t touch any player that has done an ACL.

I think the risk is too great. From a Latrobe Uni 15-year review of AFL players (it was in 2013 though)

“Being younger, a late draft pick and having a family history of ACLs made AFL players particularly vulnerable,” Dr Webster said.

“We found 50 per cent of players aged under 21 when first injured, suffered another ACL injury.”

 

[Leysy Days]

The mighty Tauru, 192cm but still could make it as a key defender, could be an even bigger weapon if he grows.

He was 194cm as of a couple of months ago. Maybe more now.

 

[Berwick boy]

Don't think so. Been stated many times this year in the media that there's no clear #1 this year. Many mock drafts have different nbr 1s. Not one player looks to be the complete package. In the end teams will be choosing their midfielder type based on most pressing need. And clearly the most persistent rumours have been Lalor at #1.

Yeah...edited that tl (i meant at all)...they (media) will love to tell us we *smile* up. I still hope we get him somewhere though...kid is a proven gun.

 

[The_General]

Lids was a star and gets a bit of a bum rap on here at times because he left.
If he was starting his career now he would be a perfect hybrid mid who could play anywhere. Quick, kicks really well, marks very well.
Some question him as a person but I have no idea about that. I listen to Dylan Buckleys podcast a bit and he is great, actually quite self deprecating, maybe he has matured and grown up?

I think Kingy saying he didn't take too well to criticism means in his playing days he couldn't cope with it. Think of that Rob Walls article (not that I like Walls) but Lids basically refused to speak to him afterwards. That's not great from a leader. If you want to improve, you've got to be able to listen, even if it stings your ego.
Lids was great. However, I always wondered though if we could have got more out of him. I expected him to be a multi All-Australian and possibly a Brownlow winner. I reckon the fact he wasn’t was part Lids, and part because we were *smile*.

 

[Sintiger]

I think Kingy saying he didn't take too well to criticism means in his playing days he couldn't cope with it. Think of that Rob Walls article (not that I like Walls) but Lids basically refused to speak to him afterwards. That's not great from a leader. If you want to improve, you've got to be able to listen, even if it stings your ego.
Lids was great. However, I always wondered though if we could have got more out of him. I expected him to be a multi All-Australian and possibly a Brownlow winner. I reckon the fact he wasn’t was part Lids, and part because we were *smile*.

Yeah that’s fair all round and Lids himself talks about how he was poor at being criticised, he makes a joke of it now. We all get better as we get older, or at least I hope we do.
Probably right on not getting the best of him as well. He had a stellar career with us ( 243 games, 2 AA, 2 jacks) but he was probably even better than that. Remember those stats on our winning percentage with and without him playing?

 

[bullus_hit]

He was 194cm as of a couple of months ago. Maybe more now.

Stocks rising Leysy, if say Langford & Smith were unavailable at 6 I'd be very tempted. But if we trade for pick 2 and take Tauru we'll shatter Thursty's trust and we'll probably never be cutting a favourable deal whilst he's at the helm. The looks on the Kangas faces would be gold however, it would be worth the entrance fee to see a room full of exploding tomatoes.

 

[caesar]

20% ACL recurrence rate for athletes.

I’m firmly in the risk minimization camp when it comes to drafting and subsequently wouldn’t touch any player that has done an ACL.

If

I think the risk is too great. From a Latrobe Uni 15-year review of AFL players (it was in 2013 though)

“Being younger, a late draft pick and having a family history of ACLs made AFL players particularly vulnerable,” Dr Webster said.

“We found 50 per cent of players aged under 21 when first injured, suffered another ACL injury.”

And we already have 4 ACL's on our list, Judson Clarke & Lefau who are on their 2nd and retired Craypot who was onto his 4th or 5th

 

[Hasbeen67]

I've been thinking of the importance of leadership traits in our first pick. Who is our next Cotchin.

Who is the guy who may be very talented but is also prepared to sacrifice his game for the greater good when ur team is 3 goals down in a prelim final to then let ur mate who is second pick do the flashy stuff to win the North Smiths.

That's why if we get 1 & 2 I pick Smith then Lalor. I see a lot of Cotch in Smith - very professional and gets it done. Very coachable and self aware. Deserves the cash for his season as first pick as well.

If we "only" have 1 & 6 I still pick Smith at 1 and maybe Langford at 6, or Reid, or Smilie. It's about leadership for me.

 

[Sintiger]

Stocks rising Leysy, if say Langford & Smith were unavailable at 6 I'd be very tempted. But if we trade for pick 2 and take Tauru we'll shatter Thursty's trust and we'll probably never be cutting a favourable deal whilst he's at the helm. The looks on the Kangas faces would be gold however, it would be worth the entrance fee to see a room full of exploding tomatoes.

Especially if Clarko was in the room, he would probably put two fists through the wall.

Let's do it

 

[Scoop]

Maybe because we got them all in a similar time bracket and very early in the drafts. We haven't had that early bracket for ages n all the ones we had are old n worn out so now we're desperate for a new set. The initial remarks were simply about what was hoped for or expected regarding the pick 1 player. A good 200 gamer or something hopefully much better. Every club has a group of good mids that will play somewhere from 170 odd games and upward toward 300, maybe even more. Some clubs have a player or two that are actually elite players who play a similar amount of games, they usually play finals n chase flags.

Does Jagga have a big game at AFL level or will he be more along the lines of steady, neat n tidy accumulator??? He's the player the Mole was referring to when I replied to his very good 200 gamer comment. I think the expectation and hope will be for better than very good at pick 1.

Nope, it’s not easy to draft good mids. Assuming so is why you end up in the hole we are. You have to overpay.

Jagga is an elite AFL mid in waiting.

 

[Mr Brightside]

I've been thinking of the importance of leadership traits in our first pick. Who is our next Cotchin.

Who is the guy who may be very talented but is also prepared to sacrifice his game for the greater good when ur team is 3 goals down in a prelim final to then let ur mate who is second pick do the flashy stuff to win the North Smiths.

That's why if we get 1 & 2 I pick Smith then Lalor. I see a lot of Cotch in Smith - very professional and gets it done. Very coachable and self aware. Deserves the cash for his season as first pick as well.

If we "only" have 1 & 6 I still pick Smith at 1 and maybe Langford at 6, or Reid, or Smilie. It's about leadership for me.

Along the same lines of thinking Hb67 , I think the one thing that is a must with the draft picks this year is they must ooooze competitiveness , simply non negotiable with this bunch , these cubs start the rapid rebuild and I think it should be plastered on the top off Blair’s lap top “ Competitiveness”