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2024 Draft Thread
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I figured you were joking. I'm maybe a bit touchy about people accusing me of having a vendetta against Jagga just because I rate others higher. I'm far from the only one.
I think RFC probably wants another early pick, citizens. For a particular player.
But pick #4 from Adelaide will cost too much. More than Dyson Sharp IMO. And that rules it out.
FWIW I'm happy for us to stay in the 2025 draft as it shapes and to move into it a bit more if we can do business with a later pick.
So what's the main issues hurt factor, position wise, x factor. He did play well in the vfl credit we're due.
Bully what's your view on Draper take the SA out of it would you consider him at 2 ?
Sorry, dan. I've said all I'm going to say on Jagga Smith. It's there if you want to search my posts.
Adelaide only has picks 4 & 64. We could do F1 + 24 for 4 and F2 if we really want our man at 4. Gives us 1, 2, 4, 10, 18, 20, 23. (Lalor, FOS, Smillie, Hotton, 2 x Whitlocks, then trade 23 for an F1). Would leave us two firsts and two seconds next year.
Well to start with, he's obviously still got another level to find if he wants to succeed at AFL level. Simply because he hasn't reached and been tried at that level yet.Playing devils advocate - what if Smith has another level to go to? He has risen to the level going into the VFL and his footy has actually improved later on in the season. He has dominated at every level even including his first VFL game in atrocious conditions against big bodied men. What if there is more in him and we pass? Its a really tough decision.
Purely just my thoughts, but I'm thinking he's good enough to be a competent n consistent good player at AFL level, not so sure he's the type of player that has that extra gear in his game to be a game changer or game breaker when required at AFL level.
I'm not that enthused to be honest, he didn't strike me as a player with enormous upside and I'm not so sure he would provide the same flexibility as some of the other mids who have shown ability up forward. I think he's one to consider with pick 10 but looking at these mock drafts he's ranked in the top 5 which is surprising from the naked eye. Does Draper have a complete defensive arsenal? Is he hunter when he doesn't have the ball? Is his kicking penetrating enough to have serious hurt factor? I don't doubt his ability to win the contested ball but a vanilla inside mid doesn't usually fit the bill for a top 5 selection. I'd be more focused on bringing in speed & athleticism and then getting the coaching staff to add some more bells and whistles. I am slightly concerned about O'Sullivan's propensity to bite off more than he can chew but that to me is fixable in an AFL environment.
Because Jagga isn't as good as Lalor and Fos, in so many area's,Kicking,Marking,Defensive which he might be on par with Fos in that area .
Is that a good enough reason,or do you want to continue the circus routine.
That won’t happen, Blair is a genius. We’ll probably get 2 for 1 pick. Bradmanesque…A+++++
Securing 8 core players from this draft is a pipe dream, 5 is about the best you could hope for but it's also important that we get quality players and not just a pile of maybes because you know some of them won't make the grade. That's why it's better to shift most of the draft capital into the top 10 and if possible, the top 5. Doing this will mitigate substantial risk and also provide us with players who traditionally aren't available beyond the top dozen draftees. We'll probably need another 4 next year but that injection of talent will transform the club from 2026 and beyond. I think we're approaching this in the best way possible, there's a clear plan to address scarcity, in this case speed. If we nail down 3 A grade mids & strike gold with one tall it will be a draft worth celebrating. I can already sense the Francis Jackson influence, he's a master of the first round, this is his bread and butter so I reckon everyone should sit back and relax because we're in safe hands.
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Agreed, IMO we'll do well & getting 2 won't change too much. if we go we get 2 elite mids to start our rebuild. If we don't we still get an elite player at 6 & possibly trade 1/2 of our later picks into next yr (my preferred option).
Well, if the reports are correct (maybe...maybe not...sounds a bit fanciful) then yeah. I think I've gotta do it.
You move into 2 and get the front of the que tandem of your choice. How often does that happen ? And you maintain 10, 18, 23 and 24 in a very even draft. Then, you add say 1 and 5 (or so) next year, and in 2 drafts you've totally dominated matters and set the platform for the future with the best kids in the land.
The top 5 or so next year will have some guns beyond just Sharp eg Lindsay, Dalton, Onley, Greeves, Luds etc
Yeah, you'd have to do it.
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Exactly right.
Mitigate the risks by going as low as you can in the draft.
No guarantees in life but the percentages say you’ve got more chance in selecting the best players in the pool.
And death riding North next year will give us something to cheer about as I fear we’ll be in for another tough year.
