After reading Twomey's rankings we definitely should pick Joe Berry just because we need a ginger.
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2024 Draft Thread
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That photo of Smillie in action on Twomeys draft ratings. Just looks like the kids fully channeling some sort of inner Gene Simmons. Never was a Kiss fan, so maybe if we have to, a pick around the 20s might be a tolerable draft position.
We should get Bob back on PRE.
Another great poster who fell victim to the thankfully now eliminated, bizarro and tyrannical past.
IMO we won't get 13. Don Pyke was pretty clear about their objectives for the draft / trade period. They wanted to bring some mature talent in, whilst also hitting the draft hard.
What I think that means for Bakes, is either we get offered a later pick (23), which we might be able to push out to 23 + F2 and giving them back a 3rd, or they will trade picks back in order to take Bakes.
For example, 3 and 23 for 6 and 39 plus Bakes basically fills both of those gaps. It maintains their draft hand (including a top 10 pick) whilst also adding the matire talent. For us, it gets us higher into the top 10, and pushes one of our 3rds into a very good option at the start of the 2nd round (I'm convinced these picks will be like golddust at the start of Night 2).
So its either something like take the later picks and try and trade up, or trade up as part of the trade. I'd probably remove the middle man and trade up personally.
I get all that but I just can't help thinking it undervalues Baker.
He is a club Vice Captain and dual premiership player. We are talking about a very good and proven AFL footballer with leadership qualities.
I would be slightly disappointed at that deal but you may well be on the money
I just had a look at what he said:
Yesterday -
I’m highly confident, Finn goes one and if we have pick two or three we go Lalor.
Very confident at this stage.
Today -
For me, Langford is the reach. Hes got right now, we absolutely rate him, but I still believe FOS and Lalor are ranked above. Of course, knowing what opposition are doing is vital. If we believe we can get Lalor at 6 but not Langford, that will play a role for instance.
I’ll reiterate, FOS doesn’t go at one, North or whomever at 2 will grab him.
Despite various pontifications, no one knows.
We will get more from Freo. For Baker pick 17. Or if we want to increase the Baker value. We get 9 + 17 for Bolton and freo offer 10 for Baker.
I don't think West Coast will get Baker for a 2nd round pick. Hence why WC threw pick 3 into the equation. The leadership at Freo have met with Baker. They are showing clear intent to draft both Baker and Bolton.
I think we get WC pick 3 in the Baker trade with other pick exchanges or he goes to Freo
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Yeah, his kicking looks ugly at times but is reasonably effective, he's kicked 7-3 in league games and 34-13 in colts games.
It probably does undervalue him, but he's out of contract, we don't hold a strong hand. Remember when Jordan Dawson went only a few years ago to Adelaide for something like Pick 17. Sydney didn't like it, but he was leaving.
The Bolton and Rioli ones are the 2 we should be pushing harder, we have the whip hand in both of those, particularly the Rioli one.
We won't get Pick 10 for Baker, I'll have whatever you've been smoking. We might get 17 (9 and 10 should be for Shai anyway), but it all comes down to if we asks to move to them when he nominates. We might know more in a weeks time once we know who the next West Coast coach will be.
I've said that I think we will get Pick 3 from West Coast so nothing changes there, just I don't think it'll be as strong of a trade as some on here seem to think.
Even though most of us on PRE and Bigfooty have a clear outlook on who is likely to go No 1 "Smith or FOS" it's still good listening to these types of videos.
Good on him and Dylan now has over 1000 subscribers. He gives good reasons as to who should go Pick 1
The video goes for about 20 mins, enjoy!
Good on him and Dylan now has over 1000 subscribers. He gives good reasons as to who should go Pick 1
The video goes for about 20 mins, enjoy!
Last 15 Draft Pick 9 & 10's -
A Moore & Melksham
Prestia & Gorringe
Tomlinson & Sumner
Vlastuin & Daniher (F/S)
Salem & Freeman
Moore (F/S) & Nakia Cockatoo
Weideman & H Mckay
Brodie & Bowes
Naughton & O'Brien
C Jones & Blakey (Academy)
L Henry & T Green (Academy)
Perkins & Z Reid
Gibcus & Erasmus
Gibney & Phillipou
E Read & Caddy
Baker is 26 (27 start of next season) with 2 x flags. Has 5 years of high level footy left? In regards value he is clearly above most of those on that list. So on face value he is better value/lower risk than Pick 9, but then you need to factor he only has 5-6 years left.
Think he is definitely worth around that Pick 9 or 10.
A Moore & Melksham
Prestia & Gorringe
Tomlinson & Sumner
Vlastuin & Daniher (F/S)
Salem & Freeman
Moore (F/S) & Nakia Cockatoo
Weideman & H Mckay
Brodie & Bowes
Naughton & O'Brien
C Jones & Blakey (Academy)
L Henry & T Green (Academy)
Perkins & Z Reid
Gibcus & Erasmus
Gibney & Phillipou
E Read & Caddy
Baker is 26 (27 start of next season) with 2 x flags. Has 5 years of high level footy left? In regards value he is clearly above most of those on that list. So on face value he is better value/lower risk than Pick 9, but then you need to factor he only has 5-6 years left.
Think he is definitely worth around that Pick 9 or 10.
Agree Posh.
As you'd expect on a club forum our draft haul will to be less (in many cases by a lot) to what are being posted.
Expecting Bakes and Graham will be the one's in our case.
i think with Graham, people have been excited by media reports he will get us band 3. Before that I think most we expecting/hoping for an end of 2nd round pick.
