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2024 Draft Thread
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Spoke well, comes from a good family is from Mt Martha
Just signed him up because he barracks for us
Excellent interview with The Langford.
Tiges fan. Reckoned FOS was the best player in the draft this year citing his skills, footy IQ etc. Said FOS was a great bloke and leader too.
The Langford himself bases his game on the Bont - inside possessions using his big body, going forward and kicking a few goals.
And for those (like me) that had a question on his leg speed, he said the part of his game that he was working on the most was his speed - especially his breakaway speed and ability to chase down an opponent.
Outstanding interview. Level headed, down to earth, determined kid.
Shoulder being sound enough, he should be a good player for someone.
Tiges fan. Reckoned FOS was the best player in the draft this year citing his skills, footy IQ etc. Said FOS was a great bloke and leader too.
The Langford himself bases his game on the Bont - inside possessions using his big body, going forward and kicking a few goals.
And for those (like me) that had a question on his leg speed, he said the part of his game that he was working on the most was his speed - especially his breakaway speed and ability to chase down an opponent.
Outstanding interview. Level headed, down to earth, determined kid.
Shoulder being sound enough, he should be a good player for someone.
Thanks Tobie.
Welcome too Tigerland.
That 50 was a clear sign you'll be in Tiger colors(We always give up a goal in the final 60secs)
jagga averaged 28 disposals and 3.5 tackles from 10 games in his bottom age Coates year
this year he's 31 disposals and 3 tackles average from 5 games.
over 2 years, he tackles 3.3 times a game
this is more than Dusty (2.7) or $hai (2.9).
close to Sam Walsh(4) and exactly the same as Zac Butters (3.3)
so hes not a prolific tackler (draper got 10 against men on weekend), but the data says he tackles commensurate with his role.
lets look at some kicking Penetration data?
a crude dividing metres gained by number of kicks.
jagga average kick length on Sunday was 27m.
on the same day, Lachy Whitfield was 18m, Jayden Short was 24m, Dion Prestia was 16m and dan Rioli 23m
that data set says myth pretty busted.
which brings us to weight?
they dont tell us weights anymore, but hes about Zac butters and Shai Bolton sized
none are colossal. But if its speed you need, you dont do bench press.
and I really dont see its relevant when a bloke is demonstrably prolific and durable
this year he's 31 disposals and 3 tackles average from 5 games.
over 2 years, he tackles 3.3 times a game
this is more than Dusty (2.7) or $hai (2.9).
close to Sam Walsh(4) and exactly the same as Zac Butters (3.3)
so hes not a prolific tackler (draper got 10 against men on weekend), but the data says he tackles commensurate with his role.
lets look at some kicking Penetration data?
a crude dividing metres gained by number of kicks.
jagga average kick length on Sunday was 27m.
on the same day, Lachy Whitfield was 18m, Jayden Short was 24m, Dion Prestia was 16m and dan Rioli 23m
that data set says myth pretty busted.
which brings us to weight?
they dont tell us weights anymore, but hes about Zac butters and Shai Bolton sized
none are colossal. But if its speed you need, you dont do bench press.
and I really dont see its relevant when a bloke is demonstrably prolific and durable
I think Lalor is a ripper.
Could hardly be a more different mid to jagga though.
they're not comparable.
I'd like both.
but I do think Langford and Lalor are very comparable, and i'd take Langford first,
without much confidence
Agree with your reference to Shai.
But TT and Hopper in together are just too slow to keep up with midfields like Port, Sydney, Brisbane, GC Collingwood, GWS even Melbourne. Throw Prestia or Graham in with those two and the net result is even slower. And you want to trade Rioli. No thanks.
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Sundays game was the most he's kicked ,and looking at the replay again ,he was up against Langford for a fair bit of the match ,and easily beat him for speed around the stoppages and around the ground .
The only one who contained him and kept pressure on him was Lalor ,and he struggled with it ,as he did against SA when the heat was on in the first half of that match .
The AFL as you know is a huge jump in pressure and physicality ,he is not going to get that sort easy free wheeling he gets at under 18 level,and a lot of his possessions are little dinky ones .
As for picking him at no 1 NO WAY ,we are going to disagree on Jagga ,,Bowie but thats life.
who would you take if you were picking at 1,
and who do you reckon Tigers would call out if the draft was this arvo?
I dont see him that way, but egg on my face with the > lalor call quite a possibility
ive seen enough of the mids now (except lalor and FOS and hotton, who complicate things)
im gonna try split the FF's namely Armstrong/sims/J whitlock
there seems a bit of chemistry between jagga and sims to me?
I need to see how the year finishes ,at the moment l could have up to 5 player's at no1.
Would l take Lalor at no 1 at the moment NO WAY ,but l know what he can do ,and l think he will end up being the most damaging mid among this crop ,be it in the mid or up forward .
I am very torn about Trainor at the moment ,he may end up a decent forward if not a very good back man ,l also like Draper as l did last year as well.
Reid isn't my type l gravitate to ,but prefer him to Jagga .
Im looking forward to how the year pans out for quite a few of them ,but also what the Tigers do in trade week .
It all good and well to say we need Mids ,but to win games you need to kick goals,and all we have up forward at the moment are b/c grade player's with the exception of Shai ,even Lynch is on his last legs .
That was me. Takes a real good pressure mark. No problems when he has to stand under it. Can play ruck or forward.
WAFL form a watch.
I agree on your base, but Yze is reluctant to play Bolton through the middle, and has rarely used Rioli through the midfield. He's pushed a little bit higher the last few games, but still largely running off half back. I've wanted to see him in the midfield, but if Yze isn't going to do that, then it opens up the possibility of a trade, as we have options at half back, and need the investment going into pure mids.
My point around midfield players, was you can have TT and Hopper in the middle, but not when you are supplementing them with other slow mids as you have said. Having those 2 isn't the issue, is the next group that is. We could see the difference on Sunday when Shai went into the middle and we lost 1 of those slower players (it was TT due to injury but could have easily have been 1 of the others) whereby we suddenly moved the ball better through the middle and into the forward line (the only quarter where we did better than evens on scoring shots, kicked 4.2). Its what we need more of, I was wanting Rioli to be tried there, but looks like Yze isn't too focused on that one.
