So what needs to be done to get George off the list FFS. He has retired, doesn't show up at the club, not playing. I will complete the form myself!
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2023 mid-season rookie draft
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on the face of it, this seems obviously true.
but if we signed ben Miller until 2024,
and Gold Coast sign Tom Berry for 2 years,
then there sort of becomes a point in picking a kid just for the sake of it?
my point is,
there must be a talent shortage? tom berry, Patrick Naish, Josh Schache, Jake Stein, Jed Anderson, Rory Atkins, James Tsitas, Tyler Brown, Jack Bowes etc, etc, etc. VFL players on AFL wages. theres dozens of them.
and its going to get 5-10% worse from 2025 with the Tasmanian devils.
so its a numbers game.
I think a high rotation of kids would be a legitimate strategy to find talent.
reserve half a dozen spots on your list for speculative 2 year contracts, bring in 3 a year and probably 3 off every second year.
like gold panning
to many players get 8 years on $300K to demonstrate they aren't good enough when they were clearly never gonna be.
you come out way ahead if you speculate on someone like Ben Miller cheaply (in terms of draft picks - rookie, SSP, mid-season) and they are on and off the list in 2 years
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Squads for the 2 "Young Guns" games played in the lead up to the mid season draft.
"HOW TO WATCH: Both games in the 2023 Young Guns Series will be available to watch live and free here."
YOUNG GUNS SERIES – GAME 1
Young Guns vs Victoria Metro U18
Sunday, May 7 at 11:00am
Trevor Barker Beach Oval
www.afl.com.au
"HOW TO WATCH: Both games in the 2023 Young Guns Series will be available to watch live and free here."
YOUNG GUNS SERIES – GAME 1
Young Guns vs Victoria Metro U18
Sunday, May 7 at 11:00am
Trevor Barker Beach Oval
Young Guns set to take on Vic Metro, Country in two-game series
Victoria’s top AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft prospects will take on the state’s best under-18 boys footballers over the next fortnight as part of the 2023 Young Guns Series
www.afl.com.au
YOUNG GUNS
| # | NAME | SURNAME | DOB | HT | STATE LEAGUE CLUB | COMMUNITY CLUB |
| 1 | Beau | Tedcastle | 20-03-04 | 177 | Richmond (VFL) | St Mary’s |
| 2 | Mitch | Szybkowski | 09-01-04 | 185 | Frankston (VFL) | Beaconsfield |
| 3 | Joziah | Nannup | 01-11-04 | 183 | Dandenong Stingrays | Doveton |
| 4 | Tom | Bower | 20-08-04 | 180 | Oakleigh Chargers | Glen Waverley Rovers |
| 5 | Paddy | Cross | 14-02-03 | 182 | Casey Demons (VFL) | Nar Nar Goon |
| 6 | Michael | Kiraly | 09-01-04 | 186 | Bendigo Pioneers | Macleod |
| 8 | Rye | Penny | 01-03-04 | 186 | Calder Cannons | Gisborne |
| 9 | Archie | Sinnott | 28-07-04 | 186 | Geelong Falcons | Newtown & Chilwell |
| 10 | Jedd | Longmire | 14-06-04 | 188 | Collingwood (VFL)/Murray Bushrangers | Bundoora |
| 11 | Nicholas | Newton | 13-05-04 | 187 | Murray Bushrangers | Lavington |
| 12 | Jack | Cleaver | 22-05-04 | 188 | Essendon (VFL) | St Bernards |
| 13 | Ethan | Stanley | 13-11-03 | 188 | Box Hill Hawks (VFL) | Frankston YCW |
| 14 | Luke | Teal | 20-05-04 | 190 | Richmond (VFL)/Oakleigh Chargers | Glen Iris |
| 15 | Tom | Stern | 23-06-04 | 191 | Gippsland Power | Warragul |
| 18 | Ryan | Maric | 06-09-04 | 193 | Gippsland Power | Drouin |
| 20 | Ziggy | Toledo-Glasman | 15-04-04 | 192 | Dandenong Stingrays | Mt Eliza |
| 21 | Mitch | Dodos | 03-11-04 | 196 | Bendigo Pioneers | Kyabram |
| 22 | Hamish | Pierson | 03-11-04 | 195 | Geelong Falcons | Grovedale Tigers |
| 24 | Jovan | Petric | 17-04-04 | 197 | Western Jets | Keilor |
| 25 | Archer | May | 27-08-04 | 199 | Richmond (VFL)/Sandringham Dragons | St Kilda City |
| 26 | Levi | Young | 15-01-04 | 199 | Sandringham Dragons | Beaumaris |
| 28 | William | Elliott | 11-06-04 | 203 | Oakleigh Chargers | Surrey Park |
| 29 | Clay | Tucker | 09-08-04 | 204 | Eastern Ranges | Rowville |
| 30 | Flynn | Riley | 05-04-04 | 206 | Northern Knights | Montmorency |
VICTORIA METRO
| # | NAME | SURNAME | DOB | HT | STATE LEAGUE CLUB | COMMUNITY CLUB |
| 1 | Isaac | Kako | 07-03-06 | 175 | Calder Cannons | Pascoe Vale |
| 2 | Taj | Hotton | 17-06-06 | 177 | Sandringham Dragons | Hampton Rovers |
| 3 | Tarkyn | O'Leary | 01-07-05 | 178 | Sandringham Dragons | Parkdale Vultures |
| 4 | Josh | Docking | 14-10-05 | 178 | Sandringham Dragons | Hampton Rovers |
| 5 | Caleb | Windsor | 09-07-05 | 183 | Eastern Ranges | Lysterfield |
| 6 | Kynan | Brown | 13-01-05 | 180 | Oakleigh Chargers | Blackburn |
| 7 | Mahmoud | Taha | 04-11-05 | 182 | Calder Cannons | Pascoe Vale |
| 8 | Nathan | Philactides | 10-01-05 | 180 | Oakleigh Chargers | Blackburn |
| 9 | Cameron | Nyko | 25-11-05 | 180 | Eastern Ranges | Healesville |
| 10 | Zak | Johnson | 24-12-06 | 185 | Northern Knights | St Mary’s |
| 11 | Harvey | Johnston | 18-08-05 | 184 | Sandringham Dragons | Parkdale Vultures |
| 12 | Archie | Roberts | 18-11-05 | 183 | Sandringham Dragons | Hampton Rovers |
| 14 | Lucca | Grego | 15-09-06 | 183 | Western Jets | Bacchus Marsh |
| 15 | Charlton | Harrop | 13-07-05 | 186 | Sandringham Dragons | Beaumaris |
| 16 | Jake | Smith | 24-07-05 | 188 | Western Jets | Williamstown CYMS |
| 17 | Ryan | Eyre | 19-03-05 | 191 | Calder Cannons | Kilmore |
| 18 | Cooper | Trembath | 17-10-05 | 192 | Eastern Ranges | Park Orchards |
| 19 | William | Brown | 16-06-05 | 193 | Sandringham Dragons | East Brighton |
| 20 | Calsher | Dear | 04-08-05 | 194 | Sandringham Dragons | Beaumaris |
| 22 | Remy | Maclean | 14-10-05 | 194 | Eastern Ranges | East Ringwood |
| 23 | Christian | Mardini | 18-06-05 | 197 | Northern Knights | Bundoora |
| 24 | Jordan | Croft | 12-05-05 | 200 | Calder Cannons | Maribyrnong Park |
| 26 | Riley | Weatherill | 21-11-05 | 195 | Eastern Ranges | East Ringwood |
| 27 | William | Green | 08-09-05 | 202 | Northern Knights | Northcote |
MID-SEASON DRAFT WHISPERS
"The fifth mid-season draft of the 21st century will be held at the end of this month. Although there seems to be less buzz and fanfare around it compared to past mid-year rookie drafts."
"The AFL recently confirmed the Young Guns squad for its upcoming two-game series against Vic Metro and Vic Country Under 18 teams. Strong performances in these games by Jai Culley (West Coast), Massimo D‘Ambrosio (Essendon) and Max Ramsden (Hawthorn) helped the trio get drafted 12 months ago.
Of the players named in the Young Guns squad, Gippsland Power’s Ryan Maric (193cm) excites recruiters the most with his goal nous and efficient kick.
This time last year, the hybrid forward was playing country football for Drouin in the Gippsland League. At the end of this month, he could be among the first two players taken in the mid-season AFL draft.
There’s also some hype around 204cm Eastern Ranges ruck Clay Tuckerand 203cm Oakleigh Chargers big man William Elliott – the son of former Australian Test cricketer Matthew Elliott – considering the array of injuries to rucks at AFL clubs this season.
Beau Tedcastle (177cm, Richmond VFL), Rye Penny (186cm, Calder Cannons), Nicholas Newton (187cm Murray Bushrangers), Ethan Stanley(188cm, Box Hill Hawks) and Luke Teal (190cm, Richmond VFL) are other Young Guns players in the mid-season draft mix. Teal, a mid-sized defender, was considered one of the unluckiest not to get picked up in last year‘s drafts.
Of the state league players in the mid-season draft mix, luckless ex-Swan Sam Naismith is a good chance to get picked up."
After three knee reconstructions during his stint at Sydney, Naismith linked up with Port Melbourne, where he’s become one of the VFL’s most dominant rucks. He produced his best game yet against the Giants last weekend, finishing with 24 disposals, eight clearances, six tackles and 38 hit-outs. Recruiters linked Naismith to Geelong, Collingwood and even Sydney ahead of the mid-season draft.
Other VFL players clubs are reportedly keeping tabs on are Williamstown duo Oscar McDonald (ex-Melbourne and Carlton) and Marty Hore (ex-Melbourne), Frankston’s Ryley Stoddart (ex-Sydney) and Box Hill’s Callum Brown (ex-Collingwood), while Essendon could consider upgrading key defender Jack Cleaver from its VFL list.
North Adelaide 191cm forward Noah Casalini, who won the best on ground medal for six-goal, 10-mark display in an Anzac Day victory over Norwood, is one of the SANFL’s best chances, while 199cm Claremont key forward Jack Buller reportedly has interest from the two WA clubs."
www.foxsports.com.au
"The fifth mid-season draft of the 21st century will be held at the end of this month. Although there seems to be less buzz and fanfare around it compared to past mid-year rookie drafts."
"The AFL recently confirmed the Young Guns squad for its upcoming two-game series against Vic Metro and Vic Country Under 18 teams. Strong performances in these games by Jai Culley (West Coast), Massimo D‘Ambrosio (Essendon) and Max Ramsden (Hawthorn) helped the trio get drafted 12 months ago.
Of the players named in the Young Guns squad, Gippsland Power’s Ryan Maric (193cm) excites recruiters the most with his goal nous and efficient kick.
This time last year, the hybrid forward was playing country football for Drouin in the Gippsland League. At the end of this month, he could be among the first two players taken in the mid-season AFL draft.
There’s also some hype around 204cm Eastern Ranges ruck Clay Tuckerand 203cm Oakleigh Chargers big man William Elliott – the son of former Australian Test cricketer Matthew Elliott – considering the array of injuries to rucks at AFL clubs this season.
Beau Tedcastle (177cm, Richmond VFL), Rye Penny (186cm, Calder Cannons), Nicholas Newton (187cm Murray Bushrangers), Ethan Stanley(188cm, Box Hill Hawks) and Luke Teal (190cm, Richmond VFL) are other Young Guns players in the mid-season draft mix. Teal, a mid-sized defender, was considered one of the unluckiest not to get picked up in last year‘s drafts.
Of the state league players in the mid-season draft mix, luckless ex-Swan Sam Naismith is a good chance to get picked up."
After three knee reconstructions during his stint at Sydney, Naismith linked up with Port Melbourne, where he’s become one of the VFL’s most dominant rucks. He produced his best game yet against the Giants last weekend, finishing with 24 disposals, eight clearances, six tackles and 38 hit-outs. Recruiters linked Naismith to Geelong, Collingwood and even Sydney ahead of the mid-season draft.
Other VFL players clubs are reportedly keeping tabs on are Williamstown duo Oscar McDonald (ex-Melbourne and Carlton) and Marty Hore (ex-Melbourne), Frankston’s Ryley Stoddart (ex-Sydney) and Box Hill’s Callum Brown (ex-Collingwood), while Essendon could consider upgrading key defender Jack Cleaver from its VFL list.
North Adelaide 191cm forward Noah Casalini, who won the best on ground medal for six-goal, 10-mark display in an Anzac Day victory over Norwood, is one of the SANFL’s best chances, while 199cm Claremont key forward Jack Buller reportedly has interest from the two WA clubs."
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www.foxsports.com.au
Any WAFL watchers know anything about Rueben McGuire 196cm 94 kg 21 year old indigenous player from East Fremantle .
He has a good leap and strong mark ,l see the Bombers where interested in him training at the club,but he decided to stay and play at Easts .
He has a good leap and strong mark ,l see the Bombers where interested in him training at the club,but he decided to stay and play at Easts .
I'd bet we do have a spot.
The article is referencing the AFL list lodgement from the start of the season, and I'd guess its not officially updated until just before the msd.
That gives a better media release
Squads for the 2 "Young Guns" games played in the lead up to the mid season draft.
"HOW TO WATCH: Both games in the 2023 Young Guns Series will be available to watch live and free here."
YOUNG GUNS SERIES – GAME 1
Young Guns vs Victoria Metro U18
Sunday, May 7 at 11:00am
Trevor Barker Beach Oval
Young Guns set to take on Vic Metro, Country in two-game series
Victoria’s top AFL Mid-Season Rookie Draft prospects will take on the state’s best under-18 boys footballers over the next fortnight as part of the 2023 Young Guns Series
YOUNG GUNS
# NAME SURNAME DOB HT STATE LEAGUE CLUB COMMUNITY CLUB 1 Beau Tedcastle 20-03-04 177 Richmond (VFL) St Mary’s 2 Mitch Szybkowski 09-01-04 185 Frankston (VFL) Beaconsfield 3 Joziah Nannup 01-11-04 183 Dandenong Stingrays Doveton 4 Tom Bower 20-08-04 180 Oakleigh Chargers Glen Waverley Rovers 5 Paddy Cross 14-02-03 182 Casey Demons (VFL) Nar Nar Goon 6 Michael Kiraly 09-01-04 186 Bendigo Pioneers Macleod 8 Rye Penny 01-03-04 186 Calder Cannons Gisborne 9 Archie Sinnott 28-07-04 186 Geelong Falcons Newtown & Chilwell 10 Jedd Longmire 14-06-04 188 Collingwood (VFL)/Murray Bushrangers Bundoora 11 Nicholas Newton 13-05-04 187 Murray Bushrangers Lavington 12 Jack Cleaver 22-05-04 188 Essendon (VFL) St Bernards 13 Ethan Stanley 13-11-03 188 Box Hill Hawks (VFL) Frankston YCW 14 Luke Teal 20-05-04 190 Richmond (VFL)/Oakleigh Chargers Glen Iris 15 Tom Stern 23-06-04 191 Gippsland Power Warragul 18 Ryan Maric 06-09-04 193 Gippsland Power Drouin 20 Ziggy Toledo-Glasman 15-04-04 192 Dandenong Stingrays Mt Eliza 21 Mitch Dodos 03-11-04 196 Bendigo Pioneers Kyabram 22 Hamish Pierson 03-11-04 195 Geelong Falcons Grovedale Tigers 24 Jovan Petric 17-04-04 197 Western Jets Keilor 25 Archer May 27-08-04 199 Richmond (VFL)/Sandringham Dragons St Kilda City 26 Levi Young 15-01-04 199 Sandringham Dragons Beaumaris 28 William Elliott 11-06-04 203 Oakleigh Chargers Surrey Park 29 Clay Tucker 09-08-04 204 Eastern Ranges Rowville 30 Flynn Riley 05-04-04 206 Northern Knights Montmorency
VICTORIA METRO
# NAME SURNAME DOB HT STATE LEAGUE CLUB COMMUNITY CLUB 1 Isaac Kako 07-03-06 175 Calder Cannons Pascoe Vale 2 Taj Hotton 17-06-06 177 Sandringham Dragons Hampton Rovers 3 Tarkyn O'Leary 01-07-05 178 Sandringham Dragons Parkdale Vultures 4 Josh Docking 14-10-05 178 Sandringham Dragons Hampton Rovers 5 Caleb Windsor 09-07-05 183 Eastern Ranges Lysterfield 6 Kynan Brown 13-01-05 180 Oakleigh Chargers Blackburn 7 Mahmoud Taha 04-11-05 182 Calder Cannons Pascoe Vale 8 Nathan Philactides 10-01-05 180 Oakleigh Chargers Blackburn 9 Cameron Nyko 25-11-05 180 Eastern Ranges Healesville 10 Zak Johnson 24-12-06 185 Northern Knights St Mary’s 11 Harvey Johnston 18-08-05 184 Sandringham Dragons Parkdale Vultures 12 Archie Roberts 18-11-05 183 Sandringham Dragons Hampton Rovers 14 Lucca Grego 15-09-06 183 Western Jets Bacchus Marsh 15 Charlton Harrop 13-07-05 186 Sandringham Dragons Beaumaris 16 Jake Smith 24-07-05 188 Western Jets Williamstown CYMS 17 Ryan Eyre 19-03-05 191 Calder Cannons Kilmore 18 Cooper Trembath 17-10-05 192 Eastern Ranges Park Orchards 19 William Brown 16-06-05 193 Sandringham Dragons East Brighton 20 Calsher Dear 04-08-05 194 Sandringham Dragons Beaumaris 22 Remy Maclean 14-10-05 194 Eastern Ranges East Ringwood 23 Christian Mardini 18-06-05 197 Northern Knights Bundoora 24 Jordan Croft 12-05-05 200 Calder Cannons Maribyrnong Park 26 Riley Weatherill 21-11-05 195 Eastern Ranges East Ringwood 27 William Green 08-09-05 202 Northern Knights Northcote
Does it strike anyone else as odd,
That there isnt a single young gun outside the state of Victoria?
Not necessarily related to this draft but in general when I look at the Essendon team it reminds me that too often clubs and supporters fall into the trap of judging players too harshly.
Essendon had Wright last year kicking over 50 goals after an underwhelming career with the suns. They now have Wiedeman playing the best footy of his career.
I think we need a kpf who can just be a back up. Sometimes a new club makes a lot of difference.
There are a few around still at other clubs playing 2nd tier footy
Himmelberg at Adelaide , Riccardi at the giants. There are probably others
Essendon had Wright last year kicking over 50 goals after an underwhelming career with the suns. They now have Wiedeman playing the best footy of his career.
I think we need a kpf who can just be a back up. Sometimes a new club makes a lot of difference.
There are a few around still at other clubs playing 2nd tier footy
Himmelberg at Adelaide , Riccardi at the giants. There are probably others
A game yesterday between Vic Metro and the “Young Guns”, which included plenty of players eligible for the mid season draft. Some notes in the article below
central.rookieme.com
Archie May, Beau Tedcastle, Tom Bower and Luke Teal
Scouting Notes: Young Guns vs. Vic Metro
The annual Young Guns series kicked off on Sunday with a game against Vic Metro. We noted some of the top performers from either side.
central.rookieme.com
Archie May, Beau Tedcastle, Tom Bower and Luke Teal
#25A game yesterday between Vic Metro and the “Young Guns”, which included plenty of players eligible for the mid season draft. Some notes in the article below
Scouting Notes: Young Guns vs. Vic Metro
The annual Young Guns series kicked off on Sunday with a game against Vic Metro. We noted some of the top performers from either side.
Archie May, Beau Tedcastle, Tom Bower and Luke Teal
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Yes I’m a big fan but he’s very raw still! I feel like at the stage the club is at we may need a more mature key forward, maybe early to mid 20s? Like Buller who has been mentioned on here.#25
If we had 2 picks Why not both?
we’re desperate for 2 tall forwards
If it did it would probably been the Cats seeing they had other draft trade rules changed for them.
