Damn it, when will they learn. Stop turning back pockets into small forwards. Geezz
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2023 mid-season rookie draft
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Damn it, when will they learn. Stop turning back pockets into small forwards. Geezz
Not sure if it's accurate, but AFL website reported that Buller went with 6 months... not sure what his strategy was in doing so... possibly to encourage a club to take a chance on him and him backing himself to impress in that period.
"Speedster Hansen jnr has received interest from a number of clubs in the lead-up to the mid-season intake and has nominated on a longer-term (18-month) contract through to the end of 2024, while Buller has lodged a short-term (six months) nomination as the 22-year-old key forward aims to land a rookie spot."
Ex-Cat, WAFL duo enter mid-season draft pool
The list of nominations is swelling ahead of next week's mid-season draft
www.afl.com.au
Not sure if it's accurate, but AFL website reported that Buller went with 6 months... not sure what his strategy was in doing so... possibly to encourage a club to take a chance on him and him backing himself to impress in that period.
"Speedster Hansen jnr has received interest from a number of clubs in the lead-up to the mid-season intake and has nominated on a longer-term (18-month) contract through to the end of 2024, while Buller has lodged a short-term (six months) nomination as the 22-year-old key forward aims to land a rookie spot."
Ex-Cat, WAFL duo enter mid-season draft pool
The list of nominations is swelling ahead of next week's mid-season draft
Well there you go. Cheers Rod, stand corrected - read in another article he was 18 months (like quite a few others) but you would assume AFL site has it correct.
Im glad we got Trezise looks a AFL player,l wouldn't be surprised to see him eventually be on the wing.
Coulhard l know as much as everyone else on him,but good luck to him.
Coulhard l know as much as everyone else on him,but good luck to him.
it will fix our shortage of fasting running forward players when MJ is not available. can see him and MJ in the side together later this year.
back in the 70's we plucked Alan Edwards from the Robinvale U19's , he was a bench player
he was straight into our ressies playing in a jumper that was 10 sizes too big
and went onto have a long and successful career
yeah yeah they are different times now
Tresize is something of a known commodity being in our VFL program
but Coulthard is the classic pick out of nowhere having played so few games
and with Bradkte being taken early in the season we really are stepping outside the square
but somewhere in these threads we had posted stats around avg brownlow votes and games played by draft pick
the draft picks 40+ did not tell a good tale, yes there are good news stories but the vast majority dont reach the levels we want
I heard a good analysis of Carlton's current woes , it sort of blamed the quality of their bottom 6 guys each week and thought that could be on the money
These guys we are taking from less traditional paths , don't have to be and most likely won't the very cream of the AFL
ie Ablett, Dangerfield , Cotching , Dusty , Petracca , Oliver , Bontempelli ... ( Cats did get one in Tom Stewart , he is a leading defender in the AFL out of Torquay)
fingers crossed Tresize , Coulthard & Bradkte can be good bottom 6 players
he was straight into our ressies playing in a jumper that was 10 sizes too big
and went onto have a long and successful career
yeah yeah they are different times now
Tresize is something of a known commodity being in our VFL program
but Coulthard is the classic pick out of nowhere having played so few games
and with Bradkte being taken early in the season we really are stepping outside the square
but somewhere in these threads we had posted stats around avg brownlow votes and games played by draft pick
the draft picks 40+ did not tell a good tale, yes there are good news stories but the vast majority dont reach the levels we want
I heard a good analysis of Carlton's current woes , it sort of blamed the quality of their bottom 6 guys each week and thought that could be on the money
These guys we are taking from less traditional paths , don't have to be and most likely won't the very cream of the AFL
ie Ablett, Dangerfield , Cotching , Dusty , Petracca , Oliver , Bontempelli ... ( Cats did get one in Tom Stewart , he is a leading defender in the AFL out of Torquay)
fingers crossed Tresize , Coulthard & Bradkte can be good bottom 6 players
I really wanted a smokey, someone I have never heard of in this draft and here is why
Mid season draft picks are by definition rejects, players who have been overlooked many many times, and very low chance of making it, for that reason, better to avoid the proven duds, and take a risk on a smokey
These two blokes feel like players who have improved alot quickly, hopefully the trend is our friend
Maybe COVID impacted their development more than it otherwise would, who knows, but look like we have two more players with the athletic profile at least to have an impact
Good luck lads
Mid season draft picks are by definition rejects, players who have been overlooked many many times, and very low chance of making it, for that reason, better to avoid the proven duds, and take a risk on a smokey
These two blokes feel like players who have improved alot quickly, hopefully the trend is our friend
Maybe COVID impacted their development more than it otherwise would, who knows, but look like we have two more players with the athletic profile at least to have an impact
Good luck lads
Sizing up Teal & Trezise I would have Teal's kicking slightly ahead, I also think there's a bit more multi-position potential there. Not sure how they split those two but I'll keep an open mind. I still want Teal to continue with our VFL program, still time to make the grade.
The point is that for guys like pods, mihochek speculativepick,there is 20,30,40 that failed .
Almost every single time,not made it,rarely come out successful, u need high talent in this position.
No, he's not enough, and I'm very worried about what sort of money they are thinking of paying him.
Carlton has taught us that you can't be paying your 8th best player 800k, great way to blow your list up.
This logic makes a lot of sense to me.
You want someone with elite traits and the right attitude and work ethic who for whatever reason hasn't been had the same opportunities as others. If the system has rejected others it may very well be right - but Lambert would be a big counterargument to this one - although you could make the argument that his size denied him opportunities due to what was being prioritized when he was in that 18 yo category.
The middle aged ones like Lambert and Broad we seem to really value the work ethic of training super hard despite still having to work full time - it certainly demonstrates character - and elite endurance is definitely an AFL trait that lets you get to more contests.
Stack is a pretty good example with the elite traits but with a combination of opportunity loss probability due to the environment and expectations he grew up with. Unfortunately, he was unable to then change (permanently) when put in the professional environment. But thats the risk.
We don't have access to the research IP on Coulthart but I'd expect the club has done its homework. Probably shouldn't be expecting more than a 1 in 5 chance of him making it - but if the 4 in 5 comes through then no doubt our recruiters are duds.
Excellent post velvet underground and Niko! You've convinced me.
MC is a smokey as smokeys get!
We have a bold approach. And we're sticking to it. Remember Marlion? everyone knew he was good, and wanted to have him on their list but just didn't have the guts to actually pull the trigger.
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I’m not sure what you're smoking Niko but I like players with a story.
Maric and Buller both had excuses for not initially being drafted and had different reasons to really have a crack this year but both had the talent, just not the right circumstances.
In Buller’s case he admitted that he was immature and just thought things would happen. Got a kick in the ass and decided to dedicate himself to professionalism. Results this year indicate he now gets it.
I’d like to know what Coulthard’s junior background was and why he came from nowhere before I get too excited. It appears he hasn’t got a decent body of work to evaluate so I’m praying it wasn’t because he mows his mother’s lawn.
( Sorry to bring up the great smokey wars )
So you're saying you don't like smokeys. Smokeys by definition don't have a visible body of work, they are off the radar, late starters or developers. Thats fair enough. The chance of a smokey making it are slim, but Niko's point is the chance of any MSD pick making it are slim so go the smokey over the known 'proven dud' to use his evocative term.
But I'd say most players in the frame to have a rough chance in the MSD would have a 100% legit story as to why they weren't drafted previously., I'd also say I'd wouldn't affect the chances of success much.
I agree, Just said as much on another thread. Don't think we can expect 300 games but 250 will do.....
Yeah not a fan of smokies.
Tresize not a smokey because he’s been under our noses in the VFL program where we’ve monitored his training intensity and football talent. He was merely hoping for a contract in our VFL team at the start of the year and now finds himself on our senior list. Great story but also an informed bet.
Coulthard has no elite junior pathway, played 11 games in the last 2 years and has come from the sky. True smokie.
Makes me nervous as hell but I assume someone in SA with strong links to us has had a lot to do with him.
I’m hoping it was Shedda.
Thinking the same, I reckon it was Shedda who helped us here. Let's hope Coulthard comes good long term.
