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2023 Draft Thread.

Ok I take your point on AS, and I'm not against LM, I'm warming to him, but to play the devils advocat, he has a touch of the Cleveland Steamers about him IMO. Very good at one thing, its a very good thing to be good at, but still, and he's not KF size.
Steamer was a lead out forward and nothing else. Morris clunks them.
 
Archie Roberts seems to be the forgotten man.

Whats the knock on him?

He seems like a classic Clarke pick.
 
Steamer was a lead out forward and nothing else. Morris clunks them.
Agree 100%. The key words are 'touch of'. I like Morris, happy to take him, but a concern is he's a bit one dimensional. He's not as one dimensional and a much better mark than the Steamer, 100%, but he is still a bit one-dimensional, and a bit short.
 
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Archie Roberts seems to be the forgotten man.

Whats the knock on him?

He seems like a classic Clarke pick.
No knock really. Vanilla HBF. Couldn't break into the VM midfield, which wasn't exceptional this year. Very competent, great kick. I don't think he has slid, I think he's just been overrated all year.
 
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If we're piling all the chips onto elite kicking I'm good, much rather do it this way than an athlete with sketchy kicking technique.
Everything comes at a cost. At this stage of the draft, any player left with elite kicking skills is almost certainly going to have major deficiencies in other areas.

Personally, I’m not entirely convinced that elite footskills alone are enough to carve out a meaningful career in the modern game.
 
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Spot on (at last.)

Possibly one of, if not the most aggressive on ballers in the Draft. Great tackler. Inside workhorse. But lacks
class. Disposals are hit and miss - not just kicking, but handballs as well. Gives away a lot of frees ( would fit in with us then I guess).

He’d need to tidy up big time on the disposal front.
McAuliffe ? I’m just gonna copy from a few weeks ago. Would be better than another hbf-winger type.
 
I agree mate need to get back to basics kicking needs to be a top priority. What's your take on Schoenmaker ? has alot of good traits.
I would place his kicking in the elite category, the extra 10 metre range can create huge headaches for any opposition attempting to man-up from the kick outs, think back to Dustin Fletcher and the raking kicks which landed on the wing - Arie has that ability even though his one on one credentials are still a work in progress. The comparisons with Balta are also a little misguided, whilst Balta always had the range, his accuracy sometimes leaves a lot to be desired, Schoenmaker is also an accurate kick and that can be put to good use at AFL level. If you look at a player like Wanganeen-Milera, his junior footy was largely uncontested too but that hasn't affected his output at AFL level. Schoenmaker's intercept numbers are fine so he's reading the play well enough and seems to possess good anticipation. The contested stuff can be worked on, obviously no guarantees in life but it's more probable you get an AFL career in this instance than someone like ZZ who still hasn't perfected the art of kicking.
 
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I would place his kicking in the elite category, the extra 10 metre range can create huge headaches for any opposition attempting to man-up from the kick outs, think back to Dustin Fletcher and the raking kicks which landed on the wing - Arie has that ability even though his one on one credentials are still a work in progress. The comparisons with Balta are also a little misguided, whilst Balta always had the range, his accuracy sometimes leaves a lot to be desired, Schoenmaker is also an accurate kick and that can be put to good use at AFL level. If you look at a player like Wanganeen-Milera, his junior footy was largely uncontested too but that hasn't affected his output at AFL level. Schoenmaker's intercept numbers are fine so he's reading the play well enough and seems to possess good anticipation. The contested stuff can be worked on, obviously no guarantees in life but it's more probable you get an AFL career in this instance than someone like ZZ who still hasn't perfected the art of kicking.

sounds like the type that might thrive under Ooze :cool:
 
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Everything comes at a cost. At this stage of the draft, any player left with elite kicking skills is almost certainly going to have major deficiencies in other areas.

Personally, I’m not entirely convinced that elite footskills alone are enough to carve out a meaningful career in the modern game.

Exactly. Foot skills are a very important attribute.

But competiveness > footskills for Leysy.
 
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McAuliffe ? I’m just gonna copy from a few weeks ago. Would be better than another hbf-winger type.

I like him, picked him up for the Swans in the Phantom too. I think he has a game that can translate to AFL level. Really nice SP numbers (just under 50%) and uses the ball nicely.
 
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I would place his kicking in the elite category, the extra 10 metre range can create huge headaches for any opposition attempting to man-up from the kick outs, think back to Dustin Fletcher and the raking kicks which landed on the wing - Arie has that ability even though his one on one credentials are still a work in progress. The comparisons with Balta are also a little misguided, whilst Balta always had the range, his accuracy sometimes leaves a lot to be desired, Schoenmaker is also an accurate kick and that can be put to good use at AFL level. If you look at a player like Wanganeen-Milera, his junior footy was largely uncontested too but that hasn't affected his output at AFL level. Schoenmaker's intercept numbers are fine so he's reading the play well enough and seems to possess good anticipation. The contested stuff can be worked on, obviously no guarantees in life but it's more probable you get an AFL career in this instance than someone like ZZ who still hasn't perfected the art of kicking.

I'm not sold on Shoenmakers and don't want ZZ Top either.
 
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McAuliffe ? I’m just gonna copy from a few weeks ago. Would be better than another hbf-winger type.
As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, my mail is we are very interested.
Goes hard and tackles with intent to hurt.
And has wheels.
Don’t be surprised if we land him
 
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McAuliffe reportedly can't kick. True or not?

Seems an ok kick from the vision (small sample size) I've seen. This bit from his draft profile may help.

"Given his presence and proficiency on the inside, there remains some room for development in McAuliffe's outside game. On paper, his kick-to-handball ratio and contested-to-uncontested numbers are quite even, but McAuliffe clearly thrives at the contest. He could perhaps better utilise his turn of speed to drive his legs to the outside, or lean on his strong running capacity to have a greater say away from stoppage. Once he gets into space, his kicking is penetrative and much more likely to hit up leading targets as he has been shown to do. At stoppage, he may be more inclined to dump clearances forward with less measure or effectiveness.

Having spent time down back, McAuliffe is no stranger to having to distribute the ball and playing a less urgent style. He's capable of spreading the play and using his long leg to change angles, but simply needs to do it more often as a midfielder. That kind of expansive play will help enhance his hurt factor. Another area McAuliffe could lift in is his scoreboard impact - which again ties into impacting outside of stoppages. It's hardly a case of him not having those strings to his bow, but more so implementing them at a greater frequency."

Sort of indicates that he can kick, but some of his decision making / composure coming out of stoppages is what the issue is. If so, then thats something we can work on. If his underlying kicking is good enough (which it sounds like it is) then decision making / composure is certainly something that can be trained into him.

We can take 3 picks into the draft with the intention of only using the 1st 2. If McAuliffe is there at our 3rd, do we take him? I would, as I don't think he will drop out of the draft, I reckon if he's there at their picks, Port will take him.

 
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