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2021 Draft Thread

So are we going up ? Down ? All around ?

They’re not gonna have Brad Johnson on the coverage are they ? Probably only started familiarising himself with the names this morning. “A good pick by xxxx. He is a good player.”
Brad Johnson will be watching the YouTube highlights clips for the 1st time today. Shifter must be sitting there thinking HTF is this guy sitting next to me?
 
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Richmond is open to trading its No.15 pick for a superior draft hand as the Tigers prepare to capitalise on draft night chaos with five picks to help replace premiership stars.

The Tigers will back in their draft order with coach Damien Hardwick giving the list team their head while in America on a fact-finding mission that includes more study in Boston.

Richmond is mindful of having lost three key position players in recent months and will hope to replace them by drafting the stars of the future with selections 7, 15, 26, 27, 28.

While the Tigers look set to keep pick seven - which will drift back to pick nine after father-son bids - recruiting boss Matthew Clarke said Richmond was open to trading pick 15.

If rival clubs are keen to get up the order the Tigers would be prepared to swap pick 15 with a later pick in the teens as long as the compensation was adequate.

Richmond is open to only taking four picks as they eye stockpiling more selections in a 2022 national draft already laden with key position stocks.

The Tigers are likely to secure one of intercepting defender Josh Gibcus, Northern Knights midfielder Josh Ward, East Perth key position forward Jye Amiss or Vic Country midfielder Ben Hobbs with the first pick.

Richmond’s welter of early picks means the Tigers can consider their list priorities or trade some of their later picks to ultimately improve their draft strategy.

“We have talked about moving up from pick seven but given our rankings we think we have some really strong options who will get through to us. Potentially some clubs with picks in the 20s are keen on our pick 15 and we would be reluctant to give it up unless there was a good offer. But if we could get back into pick 19 or 20 the player we select might not be much different.”

“So if someone really wanted pick 15 we could get a future first and potentially flick something back to them later in the draft.

“We are definitely mindful of those key position types. We have lost David Astbury, Mabior Chol and Callum Coleman Jones. But five picks gives us nice flexibility. If there are good players available with our rankings we could use all five picks and if clubs come hard we might get something good for next year.

Clarke said the club believed key defenders Ben Miller and “Biggy” Nyuon could make an impact next year but made clear it was dangerous to select on needs and ignore players with superior talent when taking top 10 picks.

“There will be some players we like. We are just sticking to our ranking. We want to be true to our rankings, we will come up with an order. We are pretty comfortable with where we sit. There will be some good players as there will be right through to 30, we are pretty confident we will get a good player.”

Richmond has always drafted for talent and traded for needs, so is aware if it can secure another selection in next year’s draft it could help restock the club’s midfield with another experienced player through the 2022 trade period.
I can see those opposition supporters and bandwagoners whinging.....Bloody Richmond....they think they're the greatest.....blah blah blah (we need a dopey face emoticon on here)
 
I’m just keen to see if Gill congratulates the Dees on their premiership win during his opening address. Something that had slipped his mind in the past two drafts…
While he is at it, can he announce the new rule change to derail the Melbourne Football club
 
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Reckon we land Bubkus Gibcus with our first pick. Welcome Bubkus.
 
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I’m not entirely convinced that we’re as bereft of inside ball winning ability as many think. Although we did make our name as kind of coalface counterpunchers, I recall us flicking a switch late in 2020 and suddenly becoming a contested ball midfield (or was it 2019?). We dished out a couple of late season contested spankings and sailed through the finals on the back of this. Anyone else recall this?
This year Prestia, Lambert, Edwards and Nankervis all copped multuple medium term injuries. That is, they were out for 4-8 weeks, came back for a while, then went back out for 4-8. Tough to get much output in those circumstances, even in the games they did play. Cotchin carried a knee and missed a few games as well. Martin missed the last quarter of the season, and Soldo rehabbed a reco. Fridge Graham was runner up in the B & F on the back of 19 touches a game because he was The Only Mid Standing. Plug the corresponding mids/rucks of any team into that kind of injury mess and you aint winning many inside contests.
The caveat is the possibilty that our first-string mids are permanently banged up, and the fact that our mid depth has been a bit skinny all the way through.
The upshot is that I’m just not sure about throwing a high pick at Hobbs, or stacking our list with mid-draft tractors to address a need that might just be addressed with a half-decent injury run and a desire to actually play that way.
 
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We really want Rachele.

Don't be surprised if we trade up for Adelaide's pick in return for 7 and 26.

Adelaide can then pick Wanganeen-Milera and Draper.

Watch this space. :cool:
 
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9. Richmond

Josh Gibcus (GWV Rebels)

Key defender, 196cm 87kg

Things might play out differently if the Dockers opt for a key forward, but Josh Gibcus may be too good to resist if Ward and Hobbs are off the board when the Tigers are up. The intercept defender reads the play extremely well and has the athletic make-up to play on the key-forward monsters, like the King twins, bursting on the scene.

IN THE MIX: A midfielder may be the first-choice for the Tigers, with Hobbs and Ward set to be snapped up if they get to Richmond’s selection. Jye Amiss is another player in consideration for the Tigers, who they have done their work on. A live trade between Adelaide and Richmond is one to watch on the first night.

 
Apparently some concerns over Goater’s endurance levels.
No major midfield experience, kicking question marks and endurance levels questions. Huge pass for me at 17.

How many more red flags do you want?
 
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I’m not entirely convinced that we’re as bereft of inside ball winning ability as many think. Although we did make our name as kind of coalface counterpunchers, I recall us flicking a switch late in 2020 and suddenly becoming a contested ball midfield (or was it 2019?). We dished out a couple of late season contested spankings and sailed through the finals on the back of this. Anyone else recall this?
This year Prestia, Lambert, Edwards and Nankervis all copped multuple medium term injuries. That is, they were out for 4-8 weeks, came back for a while, then went back out for 4-8. Tough to get much output in those circumstances, even in the games they did play. Cotchin carried a knee and missed a few games as well. Martin missed the last quarter of the season, and Soldo rehabbed a reco. Fridge Graham was runner up in the B & F on the back of 19 touches a game because he was The Only Mid Standing. Plug the corresponding mids/rucks of any team into that kind of injury mess and you aint winning many inside contests.
The caveat is the possibilty that our first-string mids are permanently banged up, and the fact that our mid depth has been a bit skinny all the way through.
The upshot is that I’m just not sure about throwing a high pick at Hobbs, or stacking our list with mid-draft tractors to address a need that might just be addressed with a half-decent injury run and a desire to actually play that way.
It was late 2020 TJ. We completely turned it around in the last 3 finals against Saints, Port and Cats and smashed them in clearances and contested ball.

You make some fair points about personnel availability but my concern is that the personnel has been to the well many times and may not be able to get back. All of those older players you mention are champions of the club but none are at their peak any longer with the possible exception of Dusty who is coming off a serious injury. Prestia is very injury prone now and struggles to get on the park, Cotch, Sheds and Lambo are all the other side of 30; Dusty is as well. They all have the ability to still be strong contributors but can they match it with the Melbourne midfield? Even the Dogs? What we have seen in the past 2 finals series is that contested ball and winning clearances is key to winning the games. A fit Nank and Soldo will also help but there are question marks on both of these guys as well.

But we do need KPPs as well and I can appreciate the interest in Gibcus. I'm just not sure about the quality of the youngsters coming behind our main midfield warriors from the past 4-5 seasons. I think we need to start addressing it now for the future. You can never have too much midfield depth but still it's no easy task to get the balance right.
 
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No apparently there's been too many rule changes in recent years & Brad Scott now wants a period of consolidation..:sneaky:

The Innovation Boss calling for a moratorium on change? :D

whilst welcome, its a textbook Scott slight of hand.

both brothers could have swapped a gherkin pumpernickel sandwich for a bag of fairy floss at pre-school,

and had the other kid nominating them for 'Buddy of the Week'