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2021 Draft Thread
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All this talk of taking a key defender with our first pick is making me queasy.
There is broad agreement our premiership window isn't yet shut. We have one or two more seasons with our older stars still at the top of their game.
We brought in Robbie Tarrant to fill a David Astbury-sized hole in the backline. Job done for the next two seasons.
We simply have to get the best inside / clearance mid with our first pick. No debate. If it's Hobbs, pull the trigger.
This obsession with the backline doesn't match our immediate needs. We even have a couple of promising tall backs in the reserves. The backline is arguably our strongest line at the moment.
Are we concerned about the backline because it was under siege last season?
If so, isn't the answer to win a boatload more contested ball that we did in 2021?
Get the best inside mid, and double down with at least one more with a pick in the 20s.
I can't face another season watching ordinary sides bend us over because they have a Parker, Dunkley, Greenwood, Mitchell, Stringer or Crouch and we don't.
There is broad agreement our premiership window isn't yet shut. We have one or two more seasons with our older stars still at the top of their game.
We brought in Robbie Tarrant to fill a David Astbury-sized hole in the backline. Job done for the next two seasons.
We simply have to get the best inside / clearance mid with our first pick. No debate. If it's Hobbs, pull the trigger.
This obsession with the backline doesn't match our immediate needs. We even have a couple of promising tall backs in the reserves. The backline is arguably our strongest line at the moment.
Are we concerned about the backline because it was under siege last season?
If so, isn't the answer to win a boatload more contested ball that we did in 2021?
Get the best inside mid, and double down with at least one more with a pick in the 20s.
I can't face another season watching ordinary sides bend us over because they have a Parker, Dunkley, Greenwood, Mitchell, Stringer or Crouch and we don't.
We already have two 2nd rounders next year, plus our first. So, we are in a good position.
It's not free, it's our 2nd rounder for their future 2nd. What's free is their pick 51/56 this year which should fall into the mid 40's
We have prime real estate with our trio of 2nd rounders and we should look to do a deal (I'm more inclined to think that's what Clarke & Co will do) trade for another top 20 pick which would definitely get us one of Butler, Howes, Erasmus, Sinn, Goater, Van Rooyen, MacDonald & Sonsie.
Instead of players in the 40's expected to be Pegoraro, Soligo, Lord, Josh Browne, Voss, Avery, Curtis & Dean just to name a few.
Got no problem with us taking Gibcus at 9. Good player and if the club ranks him ahead of Hobbs, fair enough. But, unless we trade up and think Johnson or Erasmus is gettable, it’s gonna leave us with an unfulfilled need around a contested ball winning mid. Sonsie isn’t that. Others around the 17 mark aren’t really either. Goater or Sinn ? Not sure.
Is that why we may be trading back ? Do we have someone like MacDonald in mind ? Do we think others in the 30’s can help eg Sheldrick and co ?
Fascinating Draft.
Is that why we may be trading back ? Do we have someone like MacDonald in mind ? Do we think others in the 30’s can help eg Sheldrick and co ?
Fascinating Draft.
**** Geelong. With their record of picks in the 20’s and 30’s they’re looking ok now in this Draft.
Macdonald is good ,but Hobb's is a better inside mid.
I have to say Macdonald does read the play well,and does have a more outside game than Hobbs ,we would have to look at him .
No?
Who do you like better?
Anyway the point was that Balta and JVR would be a good long-time defensive pair
On the flip side, I haven't bought into the mids obsession.
Leppa said you draft for 5 years time, and I agree
and because 5 years ago, we may not have replaced the irreplaceable engine room,
its no reason to panic and react now. there is nothing immediate about the draft.
in 5 years time, Grimes, Tarrant, Broad, Vlastuin, Reiwoldt, Lynch, Nank will all be retired.
and whose behind them?
Ivan, Miller, Balta, Collina, Ryan.
you draft for 5 years time.
add Gibcus and JVR in there and a couple of mids, and we can sleep soundly.
if we dont grab a couple of likely talls every year for the next 3 years,
our list will be a train wreck.
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Sorry Astute but I see it differently to you.
You say it’s our 2nd round pick for their future 2nd rounder, and we get a pick in the mid 40’s this year for free.
But if Clarke honestly believes that player in the mid 40’s is of equal quality to whoever is left at our 2nd rounders this year, then it is Essendon’s 2nd rounder next year that is for free.
And I am more than happy to go into next year’s draft with 4 picks inside the 1st 2 rounds.
Great post; agree 100%. It is imperative we start fixing the midfield contested ball and clearance issues. Hard to win games of footy if you can't get the pill.
I went to the 2012 draft at Jupiters casino on the GC.
I had my heart set on Brodie Grundy and was acutely disappointed when we took solid citizen Nick Vlastuin.
what a fool.
other notable foolish years since - I wanted Ben Lennon.
notable wisdom? I wanted $hai real bad. I wanted Noah Balta.
I had my heart set on Brodie Grundy and was acutely disappointed when we took solid citizen Nick Vlastuin.
what a fool.
other notable foolish years since - I wanted Ben Lennon.
notable wisdom? I wanted $hai real bad. I wanted Noah Balta.
I was saying to Mr B the other day my draft infatuation checked out about 2004 after I wanted Tambling.
BTW pretty mindblowing to think many of the kids drafted this year were only born back then.
are you saying Phantoms associated with PRE are full of *smile*
So 9, 12, 20, 47 and 67.
Have been against swapping any of our 2nd rounders but that would be a pretty good result.
It may be enough to take both Erasmus and Johnson my preference, and still have some very valuable picks available for Thursday.
I think the departure of Chol, CCJ, Garth (and Big) in one off season, thats 8 metres of man, or nearly 15% of our list height
suggests pretty strongly we will accumulate talls as a priority the next few years,
and hope to hit the jackpot on a some mids.
I think if your fundamentally pro-mid this year,
you should have some strong booze on hand the rest of the week.
suggests pretty strongly we will accumulate talls as a priority the next few years,
and hope to hit the jackpot on a some mids.
I think if your fundamentally pro-mid this year,
you should have some strong booze on hand the rest of the week.
I was saying to Mr B the other day my draft infatuation checked out about 2004 after I wanted Tambling.
BTW pretty mindblowing to think many of the kids drafted this year were only born back then.
if we're reaching back,
my other notable wins were; I was dead against Tambling and extremely bullish on JR.
I think I may have been glad we took Corey Ellis?
Aren't you doing your own phantom draft in your head Red ?, up to pick 30 odd at least, (you are wasting a lot of time on who we might pick
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