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2021 Draft Thread

I'll be feeling pretty :banana if we call Gibcus's name out.

and he sure won't be there at 15

Gibcus and The Sonz would be probably my ideal, realistic, first round pairing

our 2 first rounders cant be judged in isolation I dont reckon. its a pair.
There’s also every chance we trade down our pick 17 and pick up a juicier target like Johnston or Erasmus.
 
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Tyreece Leiu’s was mentioned linking us to him.

Tyreece Leiu​

Height: 194cm
Weight: 93kg
D.O.B: 14-04-2003
Leagues: NAB League Boys

POSITION: Inside Midfielder/Defender

SNAPSHOT: "A strong-bodied inside midfielder capable of providing marking presence at either end of the ground, with sound reading of the play and clean hands."

Tyreece Leiu has long been one of the more well known Eastern-based prospects, forming a promising partnership with regional teammates Tyler Sonsie and Jake Soligo from Under 16 level, until now. He started season 2021 alongside said pair at the centre bounces, rotating forward as usual before finding an unlikely home in defence, where his intercept ability was unearthed. With all three lines covered across his junior career, the big bodied 18-year-old is a versatile talent who provides strength at the contest and has adjusted well to different roles thus far. Having been part of Vic Metro's undefeated Under 16 side, he was set to done the Big V again this year but missed due to injury.

STRENGTHS:
+ Versatility
+ Size
+ Marking
+ Reading the Play

IMPROVEMENTS:
- Durability
- Explosive Speed

Versatility is somewhat now a pillar of Leiu's game, having originally featured as a midfield-forward rotation piece before his late venture to the backline. His size and contested ball winning ability on the inside are handy, and the 18-year-old has worked hard on becoming more of a marking player this year. Having earmarked that trait as one to improve during preseason, Leiu arguably turned it into a strength at either end of the ground, which makes sense for a 194cm player.

A couple of games stand out in particular for Leiu, who showed glimpses of his best form during the 2021 NAB League season. He was terrific against the second-ranked GWV Rebels in Round 5, taking seven marks from 17 disposals in a 38-point loss. A month later, he backed that up against the ladder leading Sandringham Dragons, clunking nine marks among his 26 disposals as a brick wall in defence.

Both outings arguably eclipsed Leiu's output over four quarters in his early-season games, which he played through midfield and up forward. His reading of the play and marking ability were sound across defensive 50, having been something he developed when providing a lead-up target in the attacking half. While unable to kick goals or have much of an accumulative impact early in the year, Leiu found the latter factor later on.

In terms of improvement areas, Leiu would arguably have liked to have found more of the ball (average 16.7 disposals) or kicked some goals in his time as a midfielder-forward. Having that consistent production is important for bigger-bodied midfielders like Leiu, who is capable of adding strings to his bow. Speaking of, another handy trait would be a touch of explosive speed to better navigate space and not rely so much on strength, though a player of his 93kg frame is hardly expected to run like The Flash.

Having managed six NAB League games and a VFL debut this year, it was good to see Leiu back on the park. On top of the cancelled season in 2020, the utility also suffered stress fractures in his back and would likely have missed some footy nonetheless. He also missed out on representative duties due to injury this year, so might come in with some queries on his durability on the back of such misfortune. When available though, he's a decent watch in all thirds of the field.

DRAFT PROJECTION: 40+

SUMMARY:

Coming into the year, Leiu was expected to be a handy point of difference to the likes of Sonsie and Soligo in Eastern's midfield, feeding the classy movers to the outer. Having done some nice things up forward before finding a home in defence, he has gone on to prove his versatility and find new ways to impact games. Which role suits him best in the eye of recruiters may impact his draft range, but he would be a handy pick in the third or fourth rounds.

NAB LEAGUE BOYS​

SEASONTEAMKHBDMCPUPTHOCLRI50R50GLGMKHDMHOTGDC
2019EASTERN RANGES30303110010113.00.03.00.00.01.01.017
2021EASTERN RANGES69311003200143015210611.55.216.75.30.52.30.070
TOTAL-72311033231153016211710.34.414.74.60.42.10.187

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EASTERN RANGES DEFENDER, INSIDE MIDFIELDER

 
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when Clarke was asked about jvr or Sonsie with our second selection he naturally straight batted but notably scratched his nose once he ended his answer. Am more than likely reading into it but hope he chooses one of the two
 
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There’s also every chance we trade down our pick 17 and pick up a juicier target like Johnston or Erasmus.

then The Sons slides to 26

and we land a Gibcus - Johnson - Sonsie - Ronny quadrella,

and we all loot Swans St BWS. :banana
 
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What is the best Draft guide to print out for tomorrow night fellas?, attending a small draft night so need to come informed.
 
then The Sons slides to 26

and we land a Gibcus - Johnson - Sonsie - Ronny quadrella,

and we all loot Swans St BWS. :banana

Reckon we need to be ahead of the Hawks in the 2nd round if we want Sonsie and he's still there at the end of tomorrow night.

BTW, what time does the draft actually start?
 
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I re-read that thread just the other day.

RFC official was in damage control, there was talk of hackers, but in the end it was just sloppiness.
Good Times .............ffs no wonder the Dark Side was the place to be :))
 
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Matt Clarke suggested that we could move a second-rounder back in the draft if there is a group of players that we rate at the back end of the draft.
This will give us more currency in next year's draft which he says also looks strong. One possibility is trading pick 28 to Essendon for their future 2nd round pick + 3rd rounder this draft.

I am not comfortable with that. What are PREnders thoughts?

We have 5 picks within the top 30. Unless we are doing a deal to get a pick around 16-20 (using our 2nd rounders), or for example doing a deal with the crows trading our 7 & 26 for their 4 & 33, I would not entertain in giving up any of our 2nd rounders for a 3rd rounder and a future 2nd rounder, there's just too much talent on the board from the late 20's to the 30's.
 
That's a really bad sign to me. Of a big head; not a team player. Does he get more disposals because team-mates are intimidated into giving him the ball due to him being the 'star' player! Pure ego and disrespecting the right of his team-mates to select what they choose as best option to use the ball.

Going 'ballistic', 'demanding', 'screaming with his hands out for a handball or short kick.' Not my kind of player, not a Richmond man type. Prima donna.
Get your own ball and don't abuse your team-mates.

Communicate, win trust, but never abuse. I'd look elsewhere on this basis alone. Will not make it at AFL level with that kind of attitude and egotism.
Yeah, like Richo and Riewoldt, why we ever put up with their antics is beyond me :devilish:

Nothing wrong with a bloke who wants the ball. Don't forget he's just a kid, if our senior players can't set him straight pretty quick smart then we aren't the club I think we are.

Anyway, your assessment of him being a Prima Donna flies in the face of everything those that have actually worked with him say about him. Just about everyone that I have heard or read describe him as a ripping kid with loads of leadership qualities.

I don't think character is an issue at all, rather it appears to be an asset and the thing that may sway recruiters.
 
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Cal Twomey’s late mail: Spotlight on TWO clubs, Vic mid intrigue​

Draft guru Cal Twomey reveals the last minute draft whispers

Should the Hawks take Ward, the Dockers look likely to grab key forward Jye Amiss, but Fremantle could also be forced to consider its drafting strategy mindful of who the Tigers are interested in with their pick wedged between their pair of selections.

Josh Gibcus in action during the Rebels' clash against the Falcons on June 6, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
If the Tigers take Gibcus, the Dockers may edge towards local Neil Erasmus, with Johnson also in their considerations. It could follow with Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera nudging out Josh Goater at the Saints, the Eagles grabbing Hobbs over Johnson, and the Bombers left with Johnson at pick 11.

Under another scenario of the Tigers taking Hobbs and the Dockers following with Erasmus, St Kilda could grab Gibcus and leave Wanganeen-Milera to get to West Coast, with the Eagles also considering Campbell Chesser. Essendon could then swoop on Johnson with their selection, with Port Adelaide also looking at Erasmus, Johnson and Josh Sinn (as well as Hobbs in the chance he got that far).

The Hawks' decision with their pick will have a significant ripple effect, particularly if they side with Johnson, the 192cm midfielder with pace and skills. That could see the Tigers snare Ward, the Saints have a choice between Gibcus and Wanganeen and West Coast possibly with the pick of midfield pair Hobbs and Erasmus.

 
I can’t see West Coast overlooking Johnson.

Hobbs and Johnson seem to be the two polarising these phantom drafts. Both touted to go as early as pick 7 at the Hawks but could also slide to pick 14.

I still think Gibcus will be the one to slide out of the top 10 but only as far as Saints at 11.
 
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Yeah I know. I didn’t suggest they were. If we want to get our hands on pick 13 it ain’t going to be for a packet of Twisties.
Possibly. But giving #Lolnorf's pick would be around the low 20's plus a mid to late 20's pick this year might be a tad expensive for a pick 13. The premium elite will already be well gone in the first handful of picks n I'm suspecting there wont be a lot of talent differential between picks ten to thirty this year.
 
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Cal Twomey’s late mail: Spotlight on TWO clubs, Vic mid intrigue​

Draft guru Cal Twomey reveals the last minute draft whispers

Should the Hawks take Ward, the Dockers look likely to grab key forward Jye Amiss, but Fremantle could also be forced to consider its drafting strategy mindful of who the Tigers are interested in with their pick wedged between their pair of selections.

Josh Gibcus in action during the Rebels' clash against the Falcons on June 6, 2021. Picture: AFL Photos
If the Tigers take Gibcus, the Dockers may edge towards local Neil Erasmus, with Johnson also in their considerations. It could follow with Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera nudging out Josh Goater at the Saints, the Eagles grabbing Hobbs over Johnson, and the Bombers left with Johnson at pick 11.

Under another scenario of the Tigers taking Hobbs and the Dockers following with Erasmus, St Kilda could grab Gibcus and leave Wanganeen-Milera to get to West Coast, with the Eagles also considering Campbell Chesser. Essendon could then swoop on Johnson with their selection, with Port Adelaide also looking at Erasmus, Johnson and Josh Sinn (as well as Hobbs in the chance he got that far).

The Hawks' decision with their pick will have a significant ripple effect, particularly if they side with Johnson, the 192cm midfielder with pace and skills. That could see the Tigers snare Ward, the Saints have a choice between Gibcus and Wanganeen and West Coast possibly with the pick of midfield pair Hobbs and Erasmus.

Twomey's late mail reads like 400 pages of PRE draft thread.
 
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