2021 Draft Thread

[DuD_Delist]

Hobbs and Luke Parker. That's what I think. No flash just substance.

The difference between Ward and Hobbs is negligible at the contest, it's the spread afterwards that separates them. Ward glides through traffic getting involved in chains and handball receives. Hobbs chuggs along to get involved but not the same fluidity. That's why I have Ward ahead of Hobbs in my first choice.

Read somewhere that the difference between Hobbs and Callahan is the now Vs the future.
Hobbs is more of the now ceiling whereas Callahan has the future Ceiling.

 

[bengal tigers]

MacDonald is an absolute ripper. Won Hailebury’s B&F and interestingly played a number of games at full forward. Kicked 6 against Wesley just to add to his versatility. I’d snap him up at pick 26 if still available.

First rounder Stew,his performances in the Nab cup ,and even the Vic country trial match are all very good.
With covid effecting the nab cup last year ,and his choice of playing School football over a few nab cup matches this year, might hide him a bit to online forums,it won't to club recruiters.

 

[bullus_hit]

Glad to see opinion moving towards taking five, or are you actually thinking six is a possibility!

By my calculation, ? there, six at the draft would require Stacky to re-sign but stay on the rookie list, and then at least one further departure.
Just wondering how the available deadlines work and if the club is still permitted to make further spots available in that way. Anyone?

The twenties picks could be bundled & I'm really gravitating to towards this strategy to move closer to the top 20. There's players like Butler, Taylor and even Wanganeen-Milera who will likely fall in this range.

 

[Redford]

Driven Ballantyne’s long road to the cusp of the AFL

Portland prospect Jamieson Ballantyne has travelled thousands of kilometres in a tireless pursuit of his AFL dream.

www.theage.com.au

 

[bengal tigers]

The twenties picks could be bundled & I'm really gravitating to towards this strategy to move closer to the top 20. There's players like Butler, Taylor and even Wanganeen-Milera who will likely fall in this range.

Yep agree,l think at 26 there will still be talent ,but maybe a few better credentialed player's will go a few picks earlier

 

[bengal tigers]

Driven Ballantyne’s long road to the cusp of the AFL

Portland prospect Jamieson Ballantyne has travelled thousands of kilometres in a tireless pursuit of his AFL dream.

www.theage.com.au

Still think he's a later pick,my preference for player's is to get a fair bit of the contested ball.

 

[DuD_Delist]

That was true before this year but they had their chances this year to impress.

2020 - Ryan and MRJ are still developing

2019 - Dow is some chance but needs a huge pre-season. Of the others drafted that year Biggy and Cumberland are the only other ones who are a chance and they’re on the verge of being delisted.

2018 - RCD I had high hopes for but he cant build a tank. After 3 preseasons he should have one by now. The rest wont make it including Ross who is slow, below average kick and is a stationary midfielder (very little run)

2017 - Our 1st two picks were disappointing and now left. We draft Oscar Allen and Taylor instead and together with Balta our future is a lot brighter as u can build a team around them.

The 3 Premierships have hidden how bad our drafting has been in the last 4 years. I’ve got real doubts about Clark - still hasn’t drafted an A grader. If he *smile* this year up then Hartley needs to get Geoff Parker from Port in before it’s too late.

I'd rather pick 18 over picks 1-4 anyday of the week.

 

[bullus_hit]

Yep agree,l think at 26 there will still be talent ,but maybe a few better credentialed player's will go a few picks earlier

Grab one of those three & we can take a punt on Sheldrick with pick 38 & Alleer at pick 40. That's presuming we don't take Gibcus. If the club is confident Goater will be there at 15 then you could even convince me to take Gibcus with our first & Goater with our second. For me it's all about balance and getting the right mix.

9. Gibcus
17. Goater
20. Taylor/Butler/Wanganeen-Milera
38. Sheldrick
40. Smokey (still yet to determine but Arthur Jones in contention)

 

[Redford]

Still think he's a later pick,my preference for player's is to get a fair bit of the contested ball.

Yeah but we can’t go with 4 or 5 x Ben Hobbs types either. We’ll need some outside run as well. Bit of mix. To that end we may look at one or two of them for later picks. Key position possibilities not withstanding.

 

[Blind Charlie]

I personally would consider it a waste of a pick at 7 for Mac Andrews as many similar talents end up teases and he would need 6.2 million pre seasons to compete at AFL level.

From what I've seen of Mac he is very much a unique type, who are these similar talents you speak of?

MA has already achieved as much if not more than most being talked about in this thread.
His efforts in the academy game vs Geelong were quite good.

 

[tigerman]

Harrison is someone that we should be considering, he tested well in 3 categories yesterday.

2021 SA AFL Combine Wrap - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[bullus_hit]

From what I've seen of Mac he is very much a unique type, who are these similar talents you speak of?

MA has already achieved as much if not more than most being talked about in this thread.
His efforts in the academy game vs Geelong were quite good.

I see a bit of Paddy Ryder, although Ryder was a genuine duel position player. I think the point with using high picks on rucks is firstly, they can easily be poached and you never realise the full value of a top 10 pick and secondly, A class rucks can be found later in the draft, Grundy (17), Gawn (34) & Darcy (38).

 

[Redford]

Harrison is someone that we should be considering, he tested well in 3 categories yesterday.

2021 SA AFL Combine Wrap - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

Did Milera test ?

 

[Blind Charlie]

I see a bit of Paddy Ryder, although Ryder was a genuine duel position player. I think the point with using high picks on rucks is firstly, they can easily be poached and you never realise the full value of a top 10 pick and secondly, A class rucks can be found later in the draft, Grundy (17), Gawn (34) & Darcy (38).

I honestly don't see Mac as a ruck even though his work in that area is very good.
His athleticism is too valuable to not be used in other areas.
I think the fact that he can be played across the ground is the main reason people think he is an experimental type.
His skills are on point for a guy his size.

 

[bengal tigers]

Grab one of those three & we can take a punt on Sheldrick with pick 38 & Alleer at pick 40. That's presuming we don't take Gibcus. If the club is confident Goater will be there at 15 then you could even convince me to take Gibcus with our first & Goater with our second. For me it's all about balance and getting the right mix.

9. Gibcus
17. Goater
20. Taylor/Butler/Wanganeen-Milera
38. Sheldrick
40. Smokey (still yet to determine but Arthur Jones in contention)

Goater l think will be gone before our second pick ,lm going for Connor Macdonald with that pick .
Goater might be in the mix for our first pick,it all depends on the direction Hartley wants to go,with the exception of about 4 player's and the 2 f&s,it sort of becomes even ,Gibcus throws thing's out a bit.he might also be gone before our pick..

This year is really hard to judge without the champs as a guide

 

[bullus_hit]

I honestly don't see Mac as a ruck even though his work in that area is very good.
His athleticism is too valuable to not be used in other areas.
I think the fact that he can be played across the ground is the main reason people think he is an experimental type.
His skills are on point for a guy his size.

Most top ten rucks have projected as dual positions prospects, Ryder was actually seen more as a CHF due to being 194cm (he actually grew 3-4cm which isn't unheard of with some rucks). Ben McEvoy was also seen as a dual position guy, think he kicked 7 goals in TAC from memory. So having a few feathers in the cap almost necessary unless you are a contested beast like NicNat who doubles as a midfielder.

 

[Scoop]

Yeah but we can’t go with 4 or 5 x Ben Hobbs types either. We’ll need some outside run as well. Bit of mix. To that end we may look at one or two of them for later picks. Key position possibilities not withstanding.

So true. I know he’s not a mid but Judson Clarke can bring that pace to our forward half. With the picks after 30, I’d take him.

Needing the pace factor and spreed of types needed Sinn, Chesser and NWM seem to fit needs. You’d have to think we take one of them or another player with that profile.

 

[bengal tigers]

Yeah but we can’t go with 4 or 5 x Ben Hobbs types either. We’ll need some outside run as well. Bit of mix. To that end we may look at one or two of them for later picks. Key position possibilities not withstanding.

Yeah l think there will be decent wing/flanker types in the second round ,but Macdonald is also a outside player,he does both.

 

[Redford]

So true. I know he’s not a mid but Judson Clarke can bring that pace to our forward half. With the picks after 30, I’d take him.

Needing the pace factor and spreed of types needed Sinn, Chesser and NWM seem to fit needs. You’d have to think we take one of them or another player with that profile.

Yeah I think I prefer a Judson Clarke to an Arthur Jones.

 

[TigerMasochist]

Probably a dumb question, but. At 200cm and skinny as hell, could Mac play as a mobile third tall early in his AFL development stages?
Considering plus 190cm players are starting to come to the fore as midfield beasts, 195 / 197 cm KPP aren't really considered as monster forwards anymore and 200 cm rucks are classed as undersized. Just wondering what the kids overall athleticism, marking n kicking are like? He's obviously got a physique like a flying pencil at the moment, but perhaps a year or two at VFL n then maybe slotting into some sort of tall mobile forward combination with Delilah as Jaaack n then Lynchman fade towards career pensions.
Wouldn't hurt to work towards a bit of ruck craft as well when he builds some bulk, but that would probably be somewhere around four or five years down the track.