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10,000,000 Cousins threads [Merged]

Will Ben Cousins Be Playing In The AFL Next Year?

  • Yes, At The Eagles

    Votes: 9 3.4%
  • Yes, At Another Club

    Votes: 92 35.0%
  • No

    Votes: 136 51.7%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 26 9.9%

  • Total voters
    263
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

KnightersRevenge said:
He has been de-registered by the AFL according to Fonzi. He won't be playing footy for a long time. I think the focus needs to shift from Ben to the WCE. The players are untouchable in Perth, it is a cultural change that is required, and not just over there.
don't be so sure Knighter.The chances of him being allowed to register for the draft just got better.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22613347-5007060,00.html

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Redford said:
My personal take on this is that the cops have long had to endure Cousins thumbing his nose at them and getting away with a lot of stuff. There’s this supposed association with underworld figures etc. Subsequently the cops have been monitoring him closely for quite a while. He blatantly refused to co-operate with them on certain investigations and as such they’d see him as this sort of complicit character in amongst it all.

Then, you add to the fact that he seems to be getting away with his personal lifestyle (e.g. AFL drug testers cant catch him, he comes back from a short rehab break, steps straight back into footy and gets the hero worship treatment again etc etc.) and you could see the cops being pretty keen to pin him with ANYTHING that might bring him down a peg or too.

This week’s incident just smells of the cops trying to do exactly that. I don’t believe they have anything big up their sleeve at all. What they do have though is enough to make a big media circus out of and get mileage from it.

They purposely bailed him up in a busy street for ages such that they knew it would attract the media. They then purposely paraded him around without a shirt on (they told him to take it off). They then bailed him up in the cop shop for over 6 hours. I mean c’mon. Really, a bunch of detectives and all this hoo-ha over a couple of valium tablets that he didn’t have a prescription for ? On the surface it all looks very, very weak relative to the whole scene that they’ve made out of it.

Again, how much pure substance there is to it and how much of it sticks long term, I just dunno. It’s a purposeful attempt by the cops to bring him down by exposure – not by genuine hard core breaches of the law. They’ve succeeded with that. But right now, the way its looking, he’s gonna get a fine and driver suspension for the failure to take the drug test, and a minor fine for having a prescription drug without a prescription. Big deal.

They wanted to embarrass him and make a big media circus out of it which they have achieved in doing, and he’s gonna pay the price for that. Some might say he deserved it.

Bingo Red,

Leysys thoughts have been along the exact same lines.

They knew a circus would be created by the way they pulled him over & it would be enough to end his footy career (certainly at the eagles). Objective reached.
 
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Redford said:
But right now, the way its looking, he’s gonna get a fine and driver suspension for the failure to take the drug test, and a minor fine for having a prescription drug without a prescription. Big deal.

Agree with your sentiments but he won't even get that now as I believe the Police have dropped the drug possession charges.
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

evo said:
Rumour is now charges may be dropped.

i'm telling ya,he's coming to the Tiges lads. 8)

evo said:
KnightersRevenge said:
He has been de-registered by the AFL according to Fonzi. He won't be playing footy for a long time. I think the focus needs to shift from Ben to the WCE. The players are untouchable in Perth, it is a cultural change that is required, and not just over there.
don't be so sure Knighter.The chances of him being allowed to register for the draft just got better.

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22613347-5007060,00.html

8)

Well, there you go. If that's true then as I've been saying the last few days the pure legal power of this is as light as a feather - apart from the refusing to take a drug test which in itself will probably only result in a hefty fine and suspension of licence I'd imagine.

If it wasnt for his age, if he went back into a successful rehab period of 12 months or so, he'd be a good chance to be back playing AFL footy at some other club thereafter I reckon. Unfortunately, age is gonna preclude that from happening.
 
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The guy has thumbed his nose at police in WA repeatedly.

Hangs in very bad company.

The triathlon and the hiding out after that.

The refusal to answer questions about phone calls on the night of a shooting in a nightclub.

The police in WA would be ropeable as they have no doubt spoken to the club a few times. The club was seemingly incapable of getting Cousins in order and now after the death of Mainwaring the time has come to show who's the boss.

Cousins has seemingly never been told no.

The police have now put him on notice.

I would think that the refusal to take a test would be the more serious charge.

The club should be sanctioned for this.

They would have been told repeatedly about the behaviour of the players and their refusal to rein the players in would not sit well with the police, who like to think they run things in WA.

Heads will roll at the club because sponsors will not be happy. The facade will crumble.

For John Worsfold to say he knew nothing is beyond comprehension. He was a chemist for Gods sake.

Is he deaf, dumb and blind?
 
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For those who are debating about whether Ben ahould be called an addict or not should read this article, It quotes the professor involved in the clinic Ben attended and talks about the effects of ice and how it will enhance an athletes performance. Pity the AFL didn't consult with him before allowing him to play again. Some people seem to fail to understand that Ice is one of the most addictive drugs in the world at the moment and this is why everyone has been so concerned about its recent emergence on the Australian scene.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22610995-662,00.html

The article mentions that Cousins and Chick were seen to meet another man in a park 20 minutes before they were arrested. Clearly they were under surveillance for sometime and I'd say the police suspected a deal had taken place. Dare I say it, but he has probably been under very close scrutinee since Mainwarrings death.

Apparently him and Chick had been on a 4 day bender after Mainwarrings death.

If the charges are dropped next week as expected it will be very hard for the AFL to deny him permission to play next year if he wants to.
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

gustiger12 said:
For those who are debating about whether Ben ahould be called an addict or not should read this article, It quotes the professor involved in the clinic Ben attended and talks about the effects of ice and how it will enhance an athletes performance. Pity the AFL didn't consult with him before allowing him to play again. Some people seem to fail to understand that Ice is one of the most addictive drugs in the world at the moment and this is why everyone has been so concerned about its recent emergence on the Australian scene.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22610995-662,00.html

Yes ice is one of the most addictive drugs but it can be used on even a weekly basis without physical addiction. It may help performance if taken alone but people who take methamphetamines always combine with massive amounts of alcohol - without fail. The detrimental effects of alcohol & no food or sleep outweigh the positive of meth.

Professors who run drug clinics where people pay lots of money for treatment have a hip pocket interest.
I've worked in a drug rehabilitation field as well as casually used various drugs without physical or mental addiction for years. Don't believe everything you hear on Today Tonight, you probably couldn't even tell if your kids used it on the odd occasion.
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

gustiger12 said:
For those who are debating about whether Ben ahould be called an addict or not should read this article, It quotes the professor involved in the clinic Ben attended and talks about the effects of ice and how it will enhance an athletes performance. Pity the AFL didn't consult with him before allowing him to play again. Some people seem to fail to understand that Ice is one of the most addictive drugs in the world at the moment and this is why everyone has been so concerned about its recent emergence on the Australian scene.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22610995-662,00.html

The article mentions that Cousins and Chick were seen to meet another man in a park 20 minutes before they were arrested. Clearly they were under surveillance for sometime and I'd say the police suspected a deal had taken place. Dare I say it, but he has probably been under very close scrutinee since Mainwarrings death.

Apparently him and Chick had been on a 4 day bender after Mainwarrings death.

If the charges are dropped next week as expected it will be very hard for the AFL to deny him permission to play next year if he wants to.


ice is very prevelant in the porn industry :eek:....and performance is everything in there field....
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

I would take Benny in the psd, as long as the doctors clear him. Im sick of being on the bottom all the time and would like to win, he could help us do that.

Downside the AFL will make Richmond sign a contract like the Westcoast Eagles did and if he stuffs up we could lose draft picks.
 
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gustiger12 said:
mj72 said:
I've worked in a drug rehabilitation field as well as casually used various drugs without physical or mental addiction for years.

Bit of a conflict of interest there don't you think.

I bet you $10 he doesn't have a problem - excuse me - I'm off the chair the next Gambler's Anon meeting ;D

Fair dinkum - if you're on it, it's mind altering so why would we believe anything that' offered up as fact :eek:
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

chum said:
charges have been dropped maybe eagles went off early

They're not dropping the refusing a driving assessment charge are they?
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

rosy23 said:
chum said:
charges have been dropped maybe eagles went off early

They're not dropping the refusing a driving assessment charge are they?

I really don't see much in this charge. I get the impression that all the hero worship has gone to his head and Cousins is like a recalcitrant little boy who delights in refusing to do as he is told.

It wouldn't surprise me if the fine for such and offense is less than the $900 for running away from a booze bus!
 
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"Mr Brennan said Cousins still planned to defend the failure to take the blood test charge."
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

rosy23 said:
chum said:
charges have been dropped maybe eagles went off early

They're not dropping the refusing a driving assessment charge are they?
latest rumour is they might be.

apparently he wasn't even driving.

lol.
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

evo said:
rosy23 said:
chum said:
charges have been dropped maybe eagles went off early

They're not dropping the refusing a driving assessment charge are they?
latest rumour is they might be.

apparently he wasn't even driving.

lol.


yeh this is getting funnier by the minute....apparently they are also testing some notes found with traces of gear on it....which wouldnt be too hard...
 
Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

evo said:
rosy23 said:
chum said:
charges have been dropped maybe eagles went off early

They're not dropping the refusing a driving assessment charge are they?
latest rumour is they might be.

apparently he wasn't even driving.

lol.

Hah hah hah hah....oh geez...if that's true then evo we havent heard the last of this. Only thing is, this time it will be Cousins and his lawyer sticking the boots into the cops (and possibly WCE too !)

What odds Cousins plays AFL football again ? Not as long as they were 2 days ago I'll bet !