10,000,000 Cousins threads [Merged]

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

Don't forget Cousins & Chick's mate who was in the other car supposedly had all sorts of gear on him.

I reckon they were expecting to find more in Benny's car.

It's pretty hard to feel sorry for him because no doubt he's associated.

 

[tigers80]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

the cops wouldnt be that stupid if they feel they dont have something on him....mind you that smug smirk on his face tends to tell another story.....

now where did mainwaring get his stuff from?

 

[Redford]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

My personal take on this is that the cops have long had to endure Cousins thumbing his nose at them and getting away with a lot of stuff. There’s this supposed association with underworld figures etc. Subsequently the cops have been monitoring him closely for quite a while. He blatantly refused to co-operate with them on certain investigations and as such they’d see him as this sort of complicit character in amongst it all.

Then, you add to the fact that he seems to be getting away with his personal lifestyle (e.g. AFL drug testers cant catch him, he comes back from a short rehab break, steps straight back into footy and gets the hero worship treatment again etc etc.) and you could see the cops being pretty keen to pin him with ANYTHING that might bring him down a peg or too.

This week’s incident just smells of the cops trying to do exactly that. I don’t believe they have anything big up their sleeve at all. What they do have though is enough to make a big media circus out of and get mileage from it.

They purposely bailed him up in a busy street for ages such that they knew it would attract the media. They then purposely paraded him around without a shirt on (they told him to take it off). They then bailed him up in the cop shop for over 6 hours. I mean c’mon. Really, a bunch of detectives and all this hoo-ha over a couple of valium tablets that he didn’t have a prescription for ? On the surface it all looks very, very weak relative to the whole scene that they’ve made out of it.

Again, how much pure substance there is to it and how much of it sticks long term, I just dunno. It’s a purposeful attempt by the cops to bring him down by exposure – not by genuine hard core breaches of the law. They’ve succeeded with that. But right now, the way its looking, he’s gonna get a fine and driver suspension for the failure to take the drug test, and a minor fine for having a prescription drug without a prescription. Big deal.

They wanted to embarrass him and make a big media circus out of it which they have achieved in doing, and he’s gonna pay the price for that. Some might say he deserved it.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

now where did mainwaring get his stuff from?

Benny just brought over a six pack so a couple of mates could talk through their problems.

Have we seen any actual evidence of this so called drug test he passed the next day?

Surprised reporters haven't chased this up a bit harder.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

This week’s incident just smells of the cops trying to do exactly that. I don’t believe they have anything big up their sleeve at all.

Again see my point above. Chick's mate has been busted with the gear in another car.
I reckon the cops got a tip off or something and this time Benny wasn't carrying much but his implication doesn't give me much sympathy. Particularly as he refused a drug test.

 

[Rosy]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

They then purposely paraded him around without a shirt on (they told him to take it off).

The version on 774 was that he took it off of his own accord because it was hot sitting in his car for so long. Yet again how would we know what's fact or not.  We only know what the media want us to hear.

Also ToO we don't really know if Benny was carrying much or not do we? Again reported on 774 that the police put several items in plastic bags and removed them from Ben's car.

 

[feisty tige]

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Yeah I'm sure it's illegal to have prescription drugs without a prescription but still plenty of people are busted for posessing illegal substances at nightclub raids and just get a warning. Somehow the police actions don't match the charges and I kinda suspect there has to be more to it..

I think you are right.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

If it ends up that the valium charge is the only one Cousins faces this will have been an enormous bungle by the police.

And it will hit the fan.

This is what I have been saying all week long Jack.

At first, when the story broke, I thought it was massive trouble for him and that serious charges would get laid. But the next day just looking at all the circumstances (i.e. the complete circus the cops purposely made out of it) and what he'd actually been charged with, I reckon the cops have been trying to get a knockout blow on him with a feather duster if you get my drift.

They may well have suceeded because yeah the refusal of a drug test doesnt look good, and yeah his AFL career might be over as well, but the actual charges and what they'll pin to him are gonna be minor. So minor in fact that in 12 months time, if the bloke is genuinely rehabilitated and in a position to play footy, this whole incident might be overlooked pretty easily and a club or two may just still entertain the possibility of having him play with them.

Long, long shot I know, but I just reckon this whole incident is starting to look very weak.

I reckon you're probably on the money, Redford.

If it ends up that the valium charge is the only one Cousins faces this will have been an enormous bungle by the police.

And it will hit the fan.

Bungle by the police? They charged him with being in the possesion of a prescription drug without a prescription. That and refusing a drug test while being in charge of a vehicle. Hardly going in hard and nothing that would come back and bite them.

Any other controversy has come from the media not the police.

Mate, it's valium. My mum's got some. Maybe I've too fully bought the idea that because it was a plainclothes interception it was planned. Could be way off the mark there but Benny's got form that suggests he might have gone for a lot worse than valium.

And the question that I haven't got an answer for is how much valium? Could be a good bust yet.

But if it's a small quantity and Cousins produces a script there'll be stink.

As for the refusal of a drug test on what basis do they drug test citizens in WA? Cousins wasn't driving was he?

 

[Rosy]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

Cousins wasn't driving was he?

Allegdly driving and doing so erratically according to the police excuse for pulling him over. All seems too convenient for me but I believe at least he was driving.

 

[Dyer'ere]

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Yeah, Rosy. I've got no doubt that a lot of stuff is turning out conveniently for Ben. It's up to the police to make it inconvenient.

So it's a driving offence that he's to be charged with too?

Not much has come out yet.

 

[Redford]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

They then purposely paraded him around without a shirt on (they told him to take it off).

The version on 774 was that he took it off of his own accord because it was hot sitting in his car for so long. Yet again how would we know what's fact or not. We only know what the media want us to hear.

Also ToO we don't really know if Benny was carrying much or not do we? Again reported on 774 that the police put several items in plastic bags and removed them from Ben's car.

Exactly. Other reports have witnesses saying when the cops pulled him over as part of their body search they asked him to take his shirt off. Then, I've read other stuff saying that he was pulled over shirtless, but he went back to the car to put something on...but then of course as we definitely know, he left the scene without one. Less than clear.

What is clear, is that at this stage, the charges dont appear to amount to much.

 

[Hayfever]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

Allegdly driving and doing so erratically according to the police excuse for pulling him over. All seems too convenient for me but I believe at least he was driving.

Apart from valium I believe there may have been a couple of other substances they were also analysing. One suggestion was Viagra....... which might explain why his steering was erratic

 

[Redford]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

This week’s incident just smells of the cops trying to do exactly that. I don’t believe they have anything big up their sleeve at all.

Again see my point above. Chick's mate has been busted with the gear in another car.
I reckon the cops got a tip off or something and this time Benny wasn't carrying much but his implication doesn't give me much sympathy. Particularly as he refused a drug test.

Yeah, but that was Chick, and that was Chick's car. Not Ben and not Ben's car.

Very hard to charge anyone and convict them on "implications" like that I would have thought.

I'm mates with people that I catch up with regularly. What they have in their car I wouldnt have a clue of.

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

Get a look at Caro's latest salvo. She goes boots and all into the AFl, West Coast, Ben, Chick, Fletcher, Gardiner et. al.

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/league-wonders-what-to-do-with-west-coast-after-the-crisis/2007/10/18/1192300952285.html

 

[linuscambridge]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

They then purposely paraded him around without a shirt on (they told him to take it off).

The version on 774 was that he took it off of his own accord because it was hot sitting in his car for so long. Yet again how would we know what's fact or not. We only know what the media want us to hear.

Also ToO we don't really know if Benny was carrying much or not do we? Again reported on 774 that the police put several items in plastic bags and removed them from Ben's car.

Exactly. Other reports have witnesses saying when the cops pulled him over as part of their body search they asked him to take his shirt off. Then, I've read other stuff saying that he was pulled over shirtless, but he went back to the car to put something on...but then of course as we definitely know, he left the scene without one. Less than clear.

What is clear, is that at this stage, the charges dont appear to amount to much.

The story I heard was that he wasn't actually in possesion of a shirt at the time and his ex girlfriend had to drop one off at the police station, not sure which story is the truth.

Would not be unusual at the clubs he goes to, to spend the entire night shirtless. I went to Dome a few years ago (perhaps more than a few!) and the bouncer wouldn't actually let me in until I took my shirt off.

Hardly think Cousins is being victimised here. His connections are well established, he was at his mates house an hour before he died of a drug overdose, I think the police would be negligent not to connect the dots on this one.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

They're a weird lot over in Perth.Fancy getting booked for not wearing a shirt then getting chucked out by his football club

 

[evo]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

Rumour is now charges may be dropped.

i'm telling ya,he's coming to the Tiges lads. 8)

 

[Scoop]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

I actualy fell for the guy.

His mentor just died and he was one of the last people to see him. It is alleged he dropped off "food" to him. Imagine if the "food" may have caused the death. No wonder he has gone off the rails. Just a theory I have been working on. It all makes sense.

And this does seem to be getting towards a farce, there isn't a great deal legally that will cause Ben grief. Unless he gets charged with fashion offences for the blue snake skin boots.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

Rumour is now charges may be dropped.

i'm telling ya,he's coming to the Tiges lads. 8)

Rnd 1
Judda$ vs Cousins ;D

 

[KnightersRevenge]

Re: Ben Cousins threads and Poll [Merged]

He has been de-registered by the AFL according to Fonzi. He won't be playing footy for a long time. I think the focus needs to shift from Ben to the WCE. The players are untouchable in Perth, it is a cultural change that is required, and not just over there.