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[Dyer'ere]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

There is a mention of a former Carlton star in one of Rule's articles.

Can't imagine why the Dominator gets mentioned by Caro. There is no basis for reviewing his position based on the assertions in her article.

It jars. Like it's off-topic. And she's normally so careful not to mix her topics. So disciplined. :whistle

As the policeman says "Nothing to sue here."

 

[Scoop]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

Beat me to it Evo.

Great article by Caro. Asks the questions and pokes holes in the poor manner the Eagles have responded. She hit a home run with this one. Everyone should read it to get a clear picture of who long this has been happening and how poorly the Eagles handled it.

The Wayne Johnston issue will spring up now.

The Tigers response will be along the lines of he is rehabilitated and is a great sounding board/example to young players about the dangers of drugs in football. Miller will almost pin him up as the perfect contact for the club to have in light of the current circumstances.

 

[evo]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Wayne Johnston issue will spring up now.

The Tigers response will be along the lines of he is rehabilitated and is a great sounding board/example to young players about the dangers of drugs in football. Miller will almost pin him up as the perfect contact for the club to have in light of the current circumstances.

Yeah hopefully.In these circumstances forthrightness, with a bit of positive spin, is the way to go.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Wayne Johnston issue will spring up now.

The Tigers response will be along the lines of he is rehabilitated and is a great sounding board/example to young players about the dangers of drugs in football. Miller will almost pin him up as the perfect contact for the club to have in light of the current circumstances.

Depends on the issue. To be frank, I have no idea what it is.

There is a little hint in the article though, isn't there? Usually that means- more to come.

 

[Hey Pesto!]

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My problem with the Johnston thing is that he played for those filthy, bottom feeding, scum bag silver spoon liberal voting dirtbags!

 

[AstuteTiger]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

You know i was reading the sun today and couldn't help thinking what about if this was our club and we had a rife drugs problem aired over the airways and papers, i would feel so embarrassed for our club if that happended to us, could u imagine all the stick u would get at the footy, workplace and so on i just hope that the club has been proactive and has had an open forum with players to discuss certain issues and so forth.

 

[evo]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Wayne Johnston issue will spring up now.

The Tigers response will be along the lines of he is rehabilitated and is a great sounding board/example to young players about the dangers of drugs in football. Miller will almost pin him up as the perfect contact for the club to have in light of the current circumstances.

Depends on the issue. To be frank, I have no idea what it is.

There is a little hint in the article though, isn't there? Usually that means- more to come.

It's not new goss Jack.Was done and dusted ages ago.

Maybe she'll elaborate at a later time.She ussually does. ;D

 

[Scoop]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Wayne Johnston issue will spring up now.

The Tigers response will be along the lines of he is rehabilitated and is a great sounding board/example to young players about the dangers of drugs in football. Miller will almost pin him up as the perfect contact for the club to have in light of the current circumstances.

Depends on the issue. To be frank, I have no idea what it is.

There is a little hint in the article though, isn't there? Usually that means- more to come.

It's not new goss Jack.Was done and dusted ages ago.

Maybe she'll elaborate at a later time.She ussually does. ;D

The Johno issue is pretty common, he went off the rails for a while.

I don't see any real issue in him being at the club. If we had to get rid of all players from all clubs that had a drug related history we would get rid of about %60 of the entire AFL structure. Coaches, players, administrators the whole lot.

Everyone has spoke about the illicit drugs but I still think that a lot more player would indulge in the odd Bob Marley ciggie. That appears to have been washed off the radar. I don't think there would be the same media uproar but I thought the issue would be raised.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Wayne Johnston issue will spring up now.

The Tigers response will be along the lines of he is rehabilitated and is a great sounding board/example to young players about the dangers of drugs in football. Miller will almost pin him up as the perfect contact for the club to have in light of the current circumstances.

Depends on the issue. To be frank, I have no idea what it is.

There is a little hint in the article though, isn't there? Usually that means- more to come.

It's not new goss Jack.Was done and dusted ages ago.

Maybe she'll elaborate at a later time.She ussually does. ;D

I'm not sure, evo.

If it's not new, or current, then it's just muck-raking. Even if she's suggesting that he should get LIFE for his priors.

Why pick WJ? Why now? There are better targets around ATM.

Is she out of ideas? Maybe they've shot their bolt. Maybe.

IMO it means either: "out of ammo" or "more to come- current".

 

[billyb#40]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Worsfold interview on the Footy Show was soft and maybe that was because some of the interviewers positions were compromised. Footy is a pretty tight group.

Also Caro has not mentioned the interviewers performance at all, but she is now part of the nine team, and as we all know if you work there you cannot be critical of them, ever.

At least no with Eddy in charge.

 

[evo]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Wayne Johnston issue will spring up now.

The Tigers response will be along the lines of he is rehabilitated and is a great sounding board/example to young players about the dangers of drugs in football. Miller will almost pin him up as the perfect contact for the club to have in light of the current circumstances.

Depends on the issue. To be frank, I have no idea what it is.

There is a little hint in the article though, isn't there? Usually that means- more to come.

It's not new goss Jack.Was done and dusted ages ago.

Maybe she'll elaborate at a later time.She ussually does. ;D

I'm not sure, evo.

If it's not new, or current, then it's just muck-raking. Even if she's suggesting that he should get LIFE for his priors.

Why pick WJ? Why now? There are better targets around ATM.

Is she out of ideas? Maybe they've shot their bolt. Maybe.

IMO it means either: "out of ammo" or "more to come- current".

She's muckracking mate.And avoiding charges of 'you always bag other teams but not you own'-which is bulldust anyway,but other clubs supporters always say it.


I doubt she's out of ideas,theres bloody heaps of themes she could pursue from here on in.I'll give her a few more if she likes. ;D No use using up all the material in one go.There's plenty of legs in the whole drugs in footy issue.

I bet she has her next 6 Sundays stories already planned.

Giver her some credit,she's a professional.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Worsfold interview on the Footy Show was soft and maybe that was because some of the interviewers positions were compromised. Footy is a pretty tight group.

Also Caro has not mentioned the interviewers performance at all, but she is now part of the nine team, and as we all know if you work there you cannot be critical of them, ever.

At least no with Eddy in charge.

Excellent obs, billy.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

If she is, then she's out of line IMO, evo.

And I give her plenty of credit in her field. The best footy reporter in the investigative caper, I reckon.

Seems to be working closely with Rule on this.

 

[Scoop]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

The Wayne Johnston issue will spring up now.

The Tigers response will be along the lines of he is rehabilitated and is a great sounding board/example to young players about the dangers of drugs in football. Miller will almost pin him up as the perfect contact for the club to have in light of the current circumstances.

Depends on the issue. To be frank, I have no idea what it is.

There is a little hint in the article though, isn't there? Usually that means- more to come.

It's not new goss Jack.Was done and dusted ages ago.

Maybe she'll elaborate at a later time.She ussually does. ;D

I'm not sure, evo.

If it's not new, or current, then it's just muck-raking. Even if she's suggesting that he should get LIFE for his priors.

Why pick WJ? Why now? There are better targets around ATM.

Is she out of ideas? Maybe they've shot their bolt. Maybe.

IMO it means either: "out of ammo" or "more to come- current".

She's muckracking mate.And avoiding charges of 'you always bag other teams but not you own'-which is bulldust anyway,but other clubs supporters always say it.


I doubt she's out of ideas,theres bloody heaps of themes she could pursue from here on in.I'll give her a few more if she likes. ;D No use using up all the material in one go.There's plenty of legs in the whole drugs in footy issue.

I bet she has her next 6 Sundays stories already planned.

Giver her some credit,she's a professional.

Your thinking along the same lines as me Evo.

This story has a massive amount of legs left in it and will probably dominate the media for most of 2007. When the facts stop coming out it is a monty that the media will go back in time muck rake and find old examples of this issue until something more current comes to date.

Wash and repeat this cycle until something bigger or different (coach sacking, board uproar, club folding/merging/ relocating or the other east story c.Judd back to Melbourne) this is a easy time for the print media.

 

[Scoop]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

What about the reference in one of the papers yesterday (sorry, forget which one it was) that there are rumours of a video tape circulating that involves, WCE players, girls and illicit substance consumption ! Geez, if that is true and it gets out, all hell will break lose !

Classic email doing the rounds today involving Cousins, Embely, Chick, the two girlfriends of Cousins and Embely, 6 chicks, not many clothes, a table that like Tony Montana's desk in Scarface, a fight, 20k worth of something going out the window!!!

This is getting like Pulp Fiction!!! I rekon this has beaten the Carey story!!!!!!

All confirmed in Caro's article today.

 

[evo]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

If she is, then she's out of line IMO, evo.

Fair enough opinion,glad I'm not a journalist,I can imagine often it must be hatrd to know where to draw the line.But it was always going to get ugly.It'll get uglier yet.

Seems to be working closely with Rule on this.

No doubt.Rule is an excellent journalist.He too,no doubt has many articles planned.

Interestingly they didn't name the 24 as was rumoured.Thats still to come.(if legally possible)

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/24/1174597959956.html

Wouldn't suprise me if said media star was mentioned in PRE previously.

Was thinking same myself evo.

on another note, what was Benny running from last pre-season that fateful night do you think?
The Weagles admin are so full of it.
I find it impossible to believe they knew nothing of Cousins problems until recently.

I'd missed this. It's a quote from an article on realfooty today. I thought they hadn't disclosed any information about the type of drugs involved?

"The uproar over the admission that Eagles star and Brownlow medallist Ben Cousins is dangerously addicted to "ice" (crystal meth amphetamine) has affected football followers from the cheer squad to AFL headquarters and the Prime Minister's office."

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/24/1174597959956.html

Yeah I was pretty gobsmacked at this revelation as well.
Also as mentioned in the paper today his $3k per week habit.

Still want him at tigerland evo?

 

[Scoop]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/24/1174597959956.html

Wouldn't suprise me if said media star was mentioned in PRE previously.

Was thinking same myself evo.

on another note, what was Benny running from last pre-season that fateful night do you think?
The Weagles admin are so full of it.
I find it impossible to believe they knew nothing of Cousins problems until recently.

How recent is recent ToO?

They publicly acknowledged that July 2006 the problem came too hand.

Woosher had heard whispers for years before but no solid proof they allege.

Read Caro in todays Age, she nails the Eagles lack of action.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/24/1174597959956.html

Wouldn't suprise me if said media star was mentioned in PRE previously.

Was thinking same myself evo.

on another note, what was Benny running from last pre-season that fateful night do you think?
The Weagles admin are so full of it.
I find it impossible to believe they knew nothing of Cousins problems until recently.

How recent is recent ToO?

They publicly acknowledged that July 2006 the problem came too hand.

Woosher had heard whispers for years before but no solid proof they allege.

Read Caro in todays Age, she nails the Eagles lack of action.

I read that but I'm suspicious that it goes back further than that and I'm citing Benny's curious bolt from the booze bus. Why did Benny run is a question those close to him should have probed deeply.

Surely the Weagles did their research on the chain of events and Cuz's behaviour that lead to his sacking as captain.

 

[evo]

Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

on another note, what was Benny running from last pre-season that fateful night do you think?
The Weagles admin are so full of it.
I find it impossible to believe they knew nothing of Cousins problems until recently.

Needless to say I agree ToO.

There's so much news on this front it's hard to keep up with it all.But I think one of the pertinent questions that should be asked(if it already hasn't)-when did Woosha hear the Kerr police tapes.he said on the show he'd heard them,and they are prettty damning.Once he's heard those tapes there's no way he can argue "well the AFL don't release tests and I asked said player,so how would i know,what else could I do?"

If it was a number of years ago then the club has been truly negligent.Kerr was subsequently in all sorts of misdeamenours that would show he was still dabbling-notably the valium pescription forgery.Even up till recently when he was jumping wildly on taxi's and involved in punch ons (with his dads aid no less,bizzare).And the club did nothing(except fine Kerr $5000.)