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10,000,000 Cousins threads [Merged]

Will Ben Cousins Be Playing In The AFL Next Year?

  • Yes, At The Eagles

    Votes: 9 3.4%
  • Yes, At Another Club

    Votes: 92 35.0%
  • No

    Votes: 136 51.7%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 26 9.9%

  • Total voters
    263
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

struggletown3121 said:
Forgetting Whoosher for a moment, I'm staggered that Rick Lewis made Demitriou aware of the liasons between the drug dealer and the WCE players implicated on the tape and rejected an investigation :eek:

Why?

And later Demetriou punted Lewis. Or maybe it was Anderson who punted him.

Shame. Lewis was such a stickler.
 
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

Dyer'ere said:
The AFL must investigate the use of these drugs. They may have been used recreationally but they have recognised performance enhancement potential. Who’s to say which was the effect.

Excellent arguement Jack, you have raised some valid points that may stick to the wall. If only a smart Jimmy Ohlsen can write something as you have discussed in the rags, this drugs issue may take a turn for the worst.
 
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Its amazing how this is all unravelling when it has been going on for years...lets just say having lived in Perth and whilst working within the music indusrty before moving home to melb...there were a lot of showcases for o/s and local artists in WA quite a few of the eagles players would turn up...and lets just say all has not been revealed....

were these players checked before the GF or afterwards?
 
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On the Worsfeld interview, I kept thinking if there's a problem in July 2006, why not address it then, rather than March 2007.

If the concern is for the player then delaying the proper response for 8 months is quite negligent.

The problem is obviously out of control and cannot be fixed by the Westcoast alone.

If the correct response to a positive drug test is to tell the player and Club doctor, what is the Doctor expected to do. Its unbelievable that the Doctor is expected to comply with his conficentiality requirements to the player and still be effective in counselling the player.

Someone should be closely questioning Demetriou as to what he thought the Doctor should have done. Its his policy so what was he expecting the Doctors to do.
 
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Just be ready for the Age tomorrow.

The witch hunt will go up ten fold.
 
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If The Age does release the names of the 24 who have tested positive, and any of those are Tigers, how will you feel? Will you want them out regardless of who they are? Will your opinions change of them?
 
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

skiptomystu said:
If The Age does release the names of the 24 who have tested positive, and any of those are Tigers, how will you feel? Will you want them out regardless of who they are? Will your opinions change of them?

perhaps we should turn a blind eye until they end up without a career and in rehab? ;)
 
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

Tigers of Old said:
skiptomystu said:
If The Age does release the names of the 24 who have tested positive, and any of those are Tigers, how will you feel? Will you want them out regardless of who they are? Will your opinions change of them?

perhaps we should turn a blind eye until they end up without a career and in rehab? ;)

Yep, good idea.
 
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One chance u blow it and u deserve what u get, doesn't matter if its a tigers player, id bloody hate it if it was but if they've been given 1 chance and they *smile* up, well i aint feeling sorry for them regardless who it is.
 
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I'd missed this. It's a quote from an article on realfooty today. I thought they hadn't disclosed any information about the type of drugs involved?

"The uproar over the admission that Eagles star and Brownlow medallist Ben Cousins is dangerously addicted to "ice" (crystal meth amphetamine) has affected football followers from the cheer squad to AFL headquarters and the Prime Minister's office."

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/24/1174597959956.html
 
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In todays Hun West Coast now admit that six to eight players have admitted trying drugs once or twice but none are doing them anymore Pffffffffffffffffft!
They were so worried about Cuz's eratic behaviour midyear 06 that they wrote him a stern letter to behave. Oh my *smile* gawd how dare they get so stern with a superstar.
There is something sadly lacking at all clubs and the AFL if they get around with such an insipid drugs testing, reporting and rehab system, just to show they are on the front foot and then they close their eyes chant the mantra.
Our testing is the best there are no drug users at our club we are squeaky clean.

NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE THAT WILL NOT SEE.

The AFL needs to get full on with their testing of players.
Mandate five tests per year per player.
The tests per player to be random could be spread over the entire year or done in a cluster for some players.
The testers could also hold the final test in abeyance just so the players would be unsure when he was going to have his last test.
With all players up for five tests per year and the testers constantly wandering around the clubs and players back doors they would never know when they were next, surely this would act as a deterent to them firing a couple of pills down.
With the AFL pulling in about 160 mill plus a year from the media rights alone its pathetic that they spend only 500 thou a year on testing, they need to ramp it up to at least 3 mill a year and thats just covering the bases.
By the time this Cousins / West Coast saga settles down the AFL brand will have copped a huge flogging, if there is another boilover in twelve to eighteen months because of the AFL and clubs burying their heads up their collective freckles the corporate dollar and the mum and dad in the street will bolt for alternatives.

SOCCER ANYONE?
 
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

Disco08 said:
http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2007/03/24/1174597959956.html
Wouldn't suprise me if said media star was mentioned in PRE previously.
 
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Good call TM, I heard the Worsfold interview on the radio yesterday and he said "That 6-8 players had admitted using regularly or experimenting once with drugs, the players had aknowledged they had been stupid and would clean up their act." You could probably believe most of them, but sadly one or two will still lie, them numbers are probably pretty accurate for every club in the comp, it might seem bad at the moment that a Brownlow medallist has been caught with a drug dependency, but in time you'll find it was the best thing to happen, it will open a can of worms and allow the AFL and the clubs to show the way and take appropiate action in one, saving a player from a downward spiral which could result in his death, two, showing young impressionable people in the community that drugs hard or soft (what a joke) are going to change their lives for the worse and three hopefully change the whole community, who most of, the head is in the sand, the big problem is we have to get tough with these dealers and pushers, they are f-cking with are friends, workmates and worsed of all our kids, they deal in only in misery and should be suspended from life indefinitly!
 
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

This issue is getting bigger by the day.A big media frenzy will force names to be named.
 
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Talon what happened to your beautiful punctuation and paragraphs? ;)
 
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Had a late one, not functioning too well at the moment, my apologies!
 
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http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/caroline-wilson/drug-issue-not-a-crisis-but-allout-war/2007/03/24/1174597953745.html

Good to see Caro start asking the hard questions of Woosha ,Nisbet and Gooding.

Always liked that Caro. ;D
 
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Is Caro's the first mention of the idea of a masking agent in relation to this issue in the media so far?

I reckon she went easy on Gooding and Worsfold.

But they aint done yet.
 
Re: Ben Cousins in trouble again

Some clubs still don't get it. No one is suggesting Richmond has an illegal drug problem but it baffles me how it continues to employ a former player in Wayne Johnston — with an admitted history of drug addiction — as its runner. The Tigers reportedly have Johnston there under certain restrictions, but that is a compromise, however inspirational he may be.



That bit is interesting,I'd been wondering about that myself.Although he does look more like prefers burgers rather than .... these days.