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10,000,000 Cousins threads [Merged]

Will Ben Cousins Be Playing In The AFL Next Year?

  • Yes, At The Eagles

    Votes: 9 3.4%
  • Yes, At Another Club

    Votes: 92 35.0%
  • No

    Votes: 136 51.7%
  • Unsure

    Votes: 26 9.9%

  • Total voters
    263
rosy23 said:
Not spiteful at all. I love Daniel Jackson. He is very articulate and a great representive of our club. I don't think he'd have a clue how much influence a player would have on our team in 10 years time just the same. I wonder how many years Richo's influence will manifest on the field? How many years would Cogs' efforts, how much he put in to get himself right, giving his all on the ground and his training ethic etc influence our players? How do you predict a time a time frame for something like that before it even happens?

I have heard player after player after coach come out and say what value Cuz has bought to this club. You comments about cuz and how anyone can measure the value he bought is ridiculous. You obviously have some sort of problem with Cuz being at the club. If you have several people saying the same thing and you continually reject it then you have the problem. I'm certainly glad we got him down to the club and he no doubt whatsoever has bought so much talent and experience to our younger guys that you can not deny it.

I certainly dont want Richos influence to maniftest us onfield. And that is why i am so anti Riewolt game plan thus far. We dont want another one team winning performer. Cogs is not a cuz and wouldnt even come close. Great teamman but not in the same league as cuz.
 
Tubytiger said:
I have heard player after player after coach come out and say what value Cuz has bought to this club. You comments about cuz and how anyone can measure the value he bought is ridiculous. You obviously have some sort of problem with Cuz being at the club. If you have several people saying the same thing and you continually reject it then you have the problem. I'm certainly glad we got him down to the club and he no doubt whatsoever has bought so much talent and experience to our younger guys that you can not deny it.

I certainly dont want Richos influence to maniftest us onfield. And that is why i am so anti Riewolt game plan thus far. We dont want another one team winning performer. Cogs is not a cuz and wouldnt even come close. Great teamman but not in the same league as cuz.

What a load of rot. Who are you to judge me as having a problem considering your own behaviour on this site? Funny Unreal! I agree with DDT's previous post in response to rockstar. Why not get stuck into him? What intrigues me most is how some people seem to take everything said about Ben as gospel, particularly rockstar whose post I was responding to. As Gary March alluded to a lot of players are being asked about Ben Cousins so of course they are saying a lot about him.

Instead of having a crack at me for my comments why not tell me exactly how Ben Cousins' influence will still be around in 10 years time, or even in two year's time. Rockstar credited Ben Cousins influence (paraphrasing but I posted a link to it recently) because Lids had 7 tackles once. If there was that kind of influence why don't players, including Lids do that kind of thing more often? Words are easy but fact is it's very likely that during Ben's time we've had 2 15th finishes. If we have a player who becomes very successful and credits Ben's influence some time down the track I'll be rapt but until it happens it's just wishful thinking.

Ben's Brownlow and premiership form was long ago and he was a shadow of that player for us. Cogs was far more successful in his time as a Tiger. I wasn't really comparing them though. I was just posting my opinion (if I'm allowed to have one) that it's ludicrous it is to credit any player for future influence on our team before it's even happened.
 
Yes it's your opinion Rosy just like it's anyone else's opinion on Caro which you seem to support. No-one's treating Cuz as a messiah. He's a player with great skill, training disciplines, GF and Brownlow experiences which would influence any kid in any team in the years to come. An absolute bonus for our developing team. A father figure. A mentor......should I go on?

What do you expect us to do now in 2010.......postpone our opinions on Cuz's influence until 2013 or so??

I laugh at how these positive comments come 'straight from a horse's mouth' ......the players !!!!......not just us fans....and you still can't get it!!.
 
rosy23 said:
What a load of rot. Who are you to judge me as having a problem considering your own behaviour on this site? Funny Unreal! I agree with DDT's previous post in response to rockstar. Why not get stuck into him? What intrigues me most is how some people seem to take everything said about Ben as gospel, particularly rockstar whose post I was responding to. As Gary March alluded to a lot of players are being asked about Ben Cousins so of course they are saying a lot about him.

Instead of having a crack at me for my comments why not tell me exactly how Ben Cousins' influence will still be around in 10 years time, or even in two year's time. Rockstar credited Ben Cousins influence (paraphrasing but I posted a link to it recently) because Lids had 7 tackles once. If there was that kind of influence why don't players, including Lids do that kind of thing more often? Words are easy but fact is it's very likely that during Ben's time we've had 2 15th finishes. If we have a player who becomes very successful and credits Ben's influence some time down the track I'll be rapt but until it happens it's just wishful thinking.

Ben's Brownlow and premiership form was long ago and he was a shadow of that player for us. Cogs was far more successful in his time as a Tiger. I wasn't really comparing them though. I was just posting my opinion (if I'm allowed to have one) that it's ludicrous it is to credit any player for future influence on our team before it's even happened.

Just the typical response i would expect from your highhorse rosy. Disgusting to say the least and just typical of your latest posting to anyone that argues anything against you. You have some issues which i hope you address. I could argue so much of what you have posted but i cant be bothered only for your vitriol to come back. Your embarrasing yourself now.
 
TigerForce said:
I laugh at how these positive comments come 'straight from a horse's mouth' ......the players !!!!......not just us fans....and you still can't get it!!.

So you believe if the players say Ben's influence will be around 10 years into the future it's fact? My post was in response to a specific comment to that effect. Seems I don't get it in that instance. Unfortunately I don't have the crystal balls others must be blessed with. :)
 
rosy23 said:
So you believe if the players say Ben's influence will be around 10 years into the future it's fact? My post was in response to a specific comment to that effect. Seems I don't get it in that instance. Unfortunately I don't have the crystal balls others must be blessed with. :)

Dan was speaking in general terms and to say "10 years" maybe overstated. Fact is the kids learnt from Cuz and will /can use that knowledge in their style of play whether it shows or not in years to come. Kids learn at school and years later they either succeed in university or drop out of high school (fail). It all depends on the player and how he uses his education. Either way we had the chance for a top player like Cuz to teach the kids and we got it. Nothing to lose from what I see. Whoever has this stupid idea of us failing with Cuz just because we finished near bottom in his 2 years, definitely needs some education !
 
rosy23 said:
So you believe if the players say Ben's influence will be around 10 years into the future it's fact? My post was in response to a specific comment to that effect. Seems I don't get it in that instance. Unfortunately I don't have the crystal balls others must be blessed with. :)
It`s pretty easy to work it out i think,Ben has obviously taught our young midfielders certain things and if those young midfielders are still at our club in 10 years time and using some of those things then Ben`s influence has lasted 10 years.
 
rosy23 said:
What a load of rot. Who are you to judge me as having a problem considering your own behaviour on this site? Funny Unreal! I agree with DDT's previous post in response to rockstar. Why not get stuck into him? What intrigues me most is how some people seem to take everything said about Ben as gospel, particularly rockstar whose post I was responding to. As Gary March alluded to a lot of players are being asked about Ben Cousins so of course they are saying a lot about him.

Instead of having a crack at me for my comments why not tell me exactly how Ben Cousins' influence will still be around in 10 years time, or even in two year's time. Rockstar credited Ben Cousins influence (paraphrasing but I posted a link to it recently) because Lids had 7 tackles once. If there was that kind of influence why don't players, including Lids do that kind of thing more often? Words are easy but fact is it's very likely that during Ben's time we've had 2 15th finishes. If we have a player who becomes very successful and credits Ben's influence some time down the track I'll be rapt but until it happens it's just wishful thinking.

Ben's Brownlow and premiership form was long ago and he was a shadow of that player for us. Cogs was far more successful in his time as a Tiger. I wasn't really comparing them though. I was just posting my opinion (if I'm allowed to have one) that it's ludicrous it is to credit any player for future influence on our team before it's even happened.

Cogs ? :rotfl Give us a break Rosy he isnt in Cuz's league !!!
 
TigerForce said:
Whoever has this stupid idea of us failing with Cuz just because we finished near bottom in his 2 years, definitely needs some education !

Has anyone actually stated that? I certainly don't recall reading such a claim.
 
rosy23 said:
Has anyone actually stated that? I certainly don't recall reading such a claim.

I'm sure I've read a comment like that somewhere in this humongous amount of Cuz threads.
 
TigerForce said:
I'm sure I've read a comment like that somewhere in this humongous amount of Cuz threads.

You don't sound too postive about it TF, so funny you raise it in regard to others' need for education. :hihi
 
Tigerchris said:
Cogs ? :rotfl Give us a break Rosy he isnt in Cuz's league !!!

You think Ben has been more successful at Richmond than Mark, a best and fairest winner, was? I also mentioned Richo, multiple leading goal kicker and runner up best and fairest, the same as Cogs. Do you think the same there too? I don't.
 
rosy23 said:
You don't sound too postive about it TF, so funny you raise it in regard to others' need for education. :hihi

What the hell does that mean? I said "I'm sure I've read it"........how precise should I be??
 
TigerForce said:
What the hell does that mean? I said "I'm sure I've read it"........how precise should I be??

I'd expect something more specific. It seems a bit random to raise such a claim in regard to this recent discussion when nobody had claimed it.
 
rosy23 said:
I'd expect something more specific. It seems a bit random to raise such a claim in regard to this recent discussion when nobody had claimed it.

Rosy, are we suddenly in court or something ?? Specific evidence, circumstantial evidence..........what a laugh!! :rofl

How do YOU know 'nobody' claimed it?? Do your own search I can't be bothered at this time of night.
 
TigerForce said:
Rosy, are we suddenly in court or something ?? Specific evidence, circumstantial evidence..........what a laugh!! :rofl

It is a laugh indeed. Not sure why you raised it when, even if that had been claimed someone once upon a time ago, it wasn't relevant to my comments that you chose to respond to. As I said very random. ;)
 
rosy23 said:
It is a laugh indeed. Not sure why you raised it when, even if that had been claimed someone once upon a time ago, it wasn't relevant to my comments that you chose to respond to. As I said very random. ;)

No it's not relevant to your comments, but why bother asking me to prove it was said then?

There are many Cuz posts and threads and I remember reading a comment like that from a few people but I'm not going to waste time searching for it. Stop playing the solicitor Rosy.
 
TigerForce said:
No it's not relevant to your comments, but why bother asking me to prove it was said then?

You made the claim in a post where you quoted me so a reasonable assumption to think there would be some kind of relevance and to try and find out what you were on about.

TigerForce said:
but why bother asking me to prove it was said then?

I didn't "bother asking" you to "prove" anything was said.