10,000,000 Cousins threads [Merged]

[GoodOne]

So much rubbish. Ben is an employee of the RFC who has an interest in film making and an extensive experience with addiction. He has apparently made a doco which tells a lot about his experiences and is likely to provide footy followers and the community at large with solid info about the day to day ordeal, people in his situation face. If it helps one other addict, gives some inspiration to one more individual struggling to cope then great cudos to Ben amd good luck to the punter and maybe just maybe Ben has done a good job.

So much rubbish only because you don't agree. I happen to believe that, if you play AFL, and you accept the big bucks, you commit yourself to the team, not to documentaries. Plenty of time for Cousins to release his doco, why MUST it be released while he's still playing footy? You can't argue about the circus that will follow, surely?

 

[GoodOne]

People who worry about the fallout of his doco are misguided. If his doco airs for eg in Sept or Oct it's forgotten 1 month later and certainly will be forgotten by 2011.

Depends on what's in the doco.

 

[Streak]

I dont see how the doco can paint the RFC in a bad light, we gave him another chance.
Also I dont think the doco will paint Benny in a bad light either, probably generate some sympathy.

I agree. while I am not prepared to categorically say what effect releasing it now might have, I do not understand the clubs apparent edict on this.

 

[TigerMasochist]

So much rubbish only because you don't agree. I happen to believe that, if you play AFL, and you accept the big bucks, you commit yourself to the team, not to documentaries.


So where has there been anything to show that cuz has not commited to the team? From everything the captain and a host of young players have said about his input and guidance, Ben has totally comitted to the team.


Plenty of time for Cousins to release his doco, why MUST it be released while he's still playing footy? You can't argue about the circus that will follow, surely?

Doco may need to be released due to contractural commitments that were signed before he was even redrafted by us. Nothing to say it MUST be released while he is still playing but it would have double the currency if it could be shown while he was still an AFL player and not just some tired old washed up hack.
Bit late to worry about a media circus that may happen Goody. If I recall correctly there was one hell of a fan driven media *smile* fight to try and get him at Punt road in the first place. Genuinely strong clubs just suck up the media *smile* then blow it out the other end and keep doing whatever they need to to build themselves into flag contention.
The Kangas did it with Careys indiscretions.
The Eagles did it with Cuz's indiscretions.
The Pies did it with Did's and others indiscretions.
The Saints did it with Milne's and others indiscretions.

Maybe it's time we hardened up a little and learned to roll with a few punches.
I was originally against bringing Cuz to the club but am happy to admit that he has been of far more value than the few distractions he's caused, if he gets another year good luck to him and whenever his doco comes out I'll be watching with interest to see exactly what he's been up to.

 

[chaz]

The doco in no way will impact on the rfc it may cause a bit of crap from the media scum, but lets look at the big picture forget about what cous makes out of this financially but if 10000 kids on the edge of the ebiss watch this, and we save one then then this is a win don't worrry about motives whos earning what or anything else

 

[zgod]

So much rubbish only because you don't agree. I happen to believe that, if you play AFL, and you accept the big bucks, you commit yourself to the team, not to documentaries. Plenty of time for Cousins to release his doco, why MUST it be released while he's still playing footy? You can't argue about the circus that will follow, surely?

Agree.

See him walking the boundary with Dusty on Sunday. Will some of you experts who can't wait to see him gone please explain what was going on? Totally dumfounding really.

I don't think anyone "can't wait to see him go" A few people have raised the prospect that maybe it's time to hang up the boots. Big deal don't have a hernia about it.
I think a few people are also dumbfounded that some experts believe that Ben is immune from critisim.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I like the way the club is playing this in the press so far.
Don't think the decision should rest on this documentary being aired.

 

[ZeroGame]

You'd have to think that it's only going to show the RFC in a positive light, so why would we have concerns over it?
West Coast and the AFL are the ones that should be nervous

 

[zgod]

I think the club maybe a little cautious because of another media storm and possibly pulling of sponsorship dollars.

 

[RoyceHart]

Personally I think that there will be less adverse media with the doco out there, the paparazzi style of Hutchy & co is geared towards rumours.
Getting the facts out there may generate a few paper sales in the short term but also kill off the endless rumours.

 

[momentai]

So much rubbish only because you don't agree. I happen to believe that, if you play AFL, and you accept the big bucks, you commit yourself to the team, not to documentaries. Plenty of time for Cousins to release his doco, why MUST it be released while he's still playing footy? You can't argue about the circus that will follow, surely?

Certainly not because I don't agree. Clearly it has been shown to Gale and others at the RFC will see it before it is shown. Cuz said as an RFC employee he wouldn't show it without getting a pass to do so and the RFC through CC has said that this is exactly what the Club expects. No more no less. We can therefore assume that the RFC hasn't directed him to can it, but still you want it put away because you are afraid of some publicity. :-\

I think the club maybe a little cautious because of another media storm and possibly pulling of sponsorship dollars.

You know .... about sponsorship $ if you think sponsors want to be isolated from what is informative, positive and progressive.

I like the way the club is playing this in the press so far.
Don't think the decision should rest on this documentary being aired.

And you are absolutely right.

 

[Ian4]

I'm more concerned with his slow start to the season as I am sure the club was.

how much of a pre-season did he have?

 

[thisistigerland]

Any publicity is good publicity from our point of view. This doco should not effect our decision to keep him.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Personally I think that there will be less adverse media with the doco out there, the paparazzi style of Hutchy & co is geared towards rumours.
Getting the facts out there may generate a few paper sales in the short term but also kill off the endless rumours.

You think all the facts will be aired Royce? I doubt it. Media is a two way street and I expect this doco will have it's own take on things.

Personally I'm not sure why Cousins chooses to air his dirty laundry but it's his choice I guess.
It's an interesting phenomenon in today's society that people feel that they need to tell their tale no matter how grim it is.
I guess it's a kind of cleansing.
If it draws some awareness to the pitfalls of drug use that can't be a bad thing IMO.

Oh well I'll be watching with curiosity as I am sure many will be.

how much of a pre-season did he have?

Not ideal that's for sure Ian.
We know it was interrupted due to the stomach ailment.
Then there was the other reported interruptions pre Christmas which we don't know the full extent of.

 

[zgod]

Cuz said as an RFC employee he wouldn't show it without getting a pass to do so and the RFC through CC has said that this is exactly what the Club expects.

Fair point

:-\You know .... about sponsorship $ if you think sponsors want to be isolated from what is informative, positive and progressive.

I know enough of sponsorship $ to know that some companies do not want to be involved with damaged goods. Not part of their brand marketing and other corporate waffle.
I believe his story could be informative and ultimately positive but i reckon some other "family Friendly" companies may be scared of a warts and all doco.

 

[btoz_01]

When we drafted Cuz we knew he had a substance abuse problem. For god sakes he was even paraded in front of the cameras by the WA olice: when they arrested him.
I didnt see any $pon$or$ withdrawing their dollar$ when he came to play for us.
All our $pon$or$ would be loving the fact that their logos are shown on TV or in the papers.
Cant believe the number of times this year Cuz has been on TV or had a full page spread in the papers showing off our $pon$or$ logos.
That exposure is what our $pon$or$ crave for and I havent seen any jump ship as a result of Cuz.

 

[Dusty]

You think all the facts will be aired Royce? I doubt it. Media is a two way street and I expect this doco will have it's own take on things.

Personally I'm not sure why Cousins chooses to air his dirty laundry but it's his choice I guess.

It's an interesting phenomenon in today's society that people feel that they need to tell their tale no matter how grim it is.
I guess it's a kind of cleansing.
If it draws some awareness to the pitfalls of drug use that can't be a bad thing IMO.

Oh well I'll be watching with curiosity as I am sure many will be.

Not ideal that's for sure Ian.
We know it was interrupted due to the stomach ailment.
Then there was the other reported interruptions pre Christmas which we don't know the full extent of.

From what I hear, it will be in the doco along with the sleeping pill thing. Also, Caro features according to G Healy. Should be interesting!

If Ben doesn't tell his story himself, someone else will due to the $$$ to be made. Ben is very brave to put it all out there.

 

[rockstar_tiger]

I am genuinely confused about something.

Dimma has implied if the interchange is capped, then it will play a role in deciding Ben doesn't play on.

But wouldn't this SLOW the game down?

Isn't the purpose of capping the interchange to extend player's careers by looking after their welfare?

IMO if interchange was capped, then Benny could almost get back to his elite best. The yard of pace that he lost will no longer be an issue, and he could break the lines more and kick more.

Also, his endurance will be a real asset that could see him play for multiple seasons, providing the body holds up.

Does anyone else think that capping the interchange will actually work in Ben's favour?

Why would we get rid of him if the game might be about to slow down a yard?

 

[zgod]

When we drafted Cuz we knew he had a substance abuse problem. For god sakes he was even paraded in front of the cameras by the WA olice: when they arrested him.
I didnt see any $pon$or$ withdrawing their dollar$ when he came to play for us.
All our $pon$or$ would be loving the fact that their logos are shown on TV or in the papers.
Cant believe the number of times this year Cuz has been on TV or had a full page spread in the papers showing off our $pon$or$ logos.
That exposure is what our $pon$or$ crave for and I havent seen any jump ship as a result of Cuz.

Just saying BT that some companies will not want to be associated with a warts and all doco. So you think at no time during the boards discussion of Bens doco they never discussed the possibility of bad press and the possibility of certain sponsors or potential sponsors not wanting their image, brand and name associated with such a touchy topic? Yeah we knew of his problem but having it graphically shoved in your face is a tad different.
Surely when we are curently looking for a new major sponsor we would be making sure that all our bases are covered.
Look it doesn't bother me or the bloke across from me at the Pub but I bet my left nut it wrankles some marketing consultant of a company looking to invest millions in the RFC.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Just saying BT that some companies will not want to be associated with a warts and all doco. So you think at no time during the boards discussion of Bens doco they never discussed the possibility of bad press and the possibility of certain sponsors or potential sponsors not wanting their image, brand and name associated with such a touchy topic? Yeah we knew of his problem but having it graphically shoved in your face is a tad different.
Surely when we are curently looking for a new major sponsor we would be making sure that all our bases are covered.
Look it doesn't bother me or the bloke across from me at the Pub but I bet my left nut it wrankles some marketing consultant of a company looking to invest millions in the RFC.

And when will this doco being aired?During the finals.Where will the RFC be?On holidays.Most of the attention will be on those clubs left in the finals.The media circus won,t be at Punt Road because there will be no one there.lol.By the time next season comes along the Doco will be a distant memory.Can,t see what any problems with a potential sponsor.