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When will Bernie go !!

Re: When will Bernie go !!

Sintiger said:
I actually don't think there are many blindly optimistic posters on here at all...if any.

theres me. There hasnt been a single year since 1971 that I didnt think we'd win the flag during the off season. :don't know

I suppose that shows that im wrong 94% of the time. So?

I sincerely don't see any point in barracking any other way.


rosy3 said:
Meanwhile back at the footy...........

Isnt this thread pretty much NOT about footy rosy?

what are you meant to say? Bernie?
 
Jason King said:
Halfway mark of the season I think. I am not sure a passable year will save Damien to be honest. But then again the 2 year extension was almost universally questioned.

well that poses another question. where will we need to finish for him to continue on in 2018? 10 wins or more? finals? a finals win?
 
Ian4 said:
well that poses another question. where will we need to finish for him to continue on in 2018? 10 wins or more? finals? a finals win?

I guess it really depends on the style of footy we play. Just scraping into the 8 and winning a final playing the same old stoppage footy shouldn't save him, but they are quite conservative.

I would have thought things need to improve out of sight on field not just in the wins column.
 
Jason King said:
I would have thought things need to improve out of sight on field not just in the wins column.

if things don't improve out of sight on the field, the wins column won't be improving anyway. :help
 
Im backing Ximma to be there in 2019 and we will be having a crack at the flag think his a great coach and history will show with the list we have had he has done amazing job
 
Re: When will Bernie go !!

easy said:
theres me. There hasnt been a single year since 1971 that I didnt think we'd win the flag during the off season. :don't know
That is blindly optimistic !!

Nothing wrong with that ...
 
tigersnake said:
if things don't improve out of sight on the field, the wins column won't be improving anyway. :help

:hihi

With richmond I have learned there is no mutual exclusivity. For those around who still very much care we just cant have another false dawn.
 
Richmond don't have the money to boot him this year. The executive are disappointed, not accountable, for poor performance. Add these together and you have a full term for Bernie.
 
pervian said:
Im backing Ximma to be there in 2019 and we will be having a crack at the flag think his a great coach and history will show with the list we have had he has done amazing job

Sounds like a Japanese coach...
 
pervian said:
Im backing Ximma to be there in 2019 and we will be having a crack at the flag think his a great coach and history will show with the list we have had he has done amazing job

so you think Dimma's reaction to the Carlton elimination final loss in 2013 (changing the gameplan to this ugly manifestation we had in 2016) suggests Dimma is a great coach?

thejinx said:
My bet is he will resign towards the end of the season.

Board won't sack him.

didn't he say a few years ago he will walk if he can't take the team any further? or did I get him mixed up with someone else?
 
tommystigers said:
Throw $700K-$1M plus away? No, they definitely don't.

Look at the published financials, they most certainly can...

Whether they do or not is another story!
 
Tigertough1974 said:
Look at the published financials, they most certainly can...

Whether they do or not is another story!

Whether they can is even subjective, let alone whether they SHOULD? Hardwick was always going to get the 2017 contract given where he had taken the team to from the start of his appointment and given he is on all factual evidence, the most successful RFC coach in ~36 years with his teams making 3 successive finals series. Even if they bombed out badly each time.

Do I want my club to burn ~$1m sacking him prematurely? I guess I'd have to weigh that up for a nano-second. If anyone thinks that, you are really underestimating the value of the dollar in today's highly competitive sporting world. Especially since, despite the darksiders naive predictions of some replacement messiah automatically doing much better, there is no certainty of this - most especially in the current AFL environment with the expansion teams (GWS) loaded up with A-grade talent ready to go. Have people forgotten just how much money was lost on the Yarran deal?

Believe we only have to wait for this season or latter half. Also that Dimma will walk if he fails. People need to remember that he lost the first 9 games a couple of years ago, and the team still made finals. You need to avoid rushing to the panic-room halfway through the season (or before it even starts).
 
leon said:
Whether they can is even subjective, let alone whether they SHOULD?
Whether they can or not is not subjective because the Balance Sheet is certainly strong enough to take a loss to pay out the coach.

Whether we should is not the question that was asked, different subject.
 
Sintiger said:
Whether they can or not is not subjective because the Balance Sheet is certainly strong enough to take a loss to pay out the coach.

Whether we should is not the question that was asked, different subject.

Thanks, teacher, but you think you know all you need to know from what any club publishes? Really? Even though every club reports in different ways? You, in your expertise though, had no trouble reconciling the $1m already blown in the Yarran write-off, of course? Nor the need to load up to get Dusty re-contracted? Not to mention all the other complex financial business involved in running a multi-million $ business? No, you're all over it? I trust you ...
:hihi

BTW, the 'should' part was my rhetorical comment. Is that OK by you?
 
leon said:
People need to remember that he lost the first 9 games a couple of years ago, and the team still made finals. You need to avoid rushing to the panic-room halfway through the season (or before it even starts).

... yeah and we were humiliated by Port Adelaide after burning out after such a desperate run.

2014 is a classic body of evidence supporting the notion that Hardwick is the root of our on-field problems.

You only have to look at the win-loss - from 3-10 to 12-10 after much public hand-wringing about our tactics. The wins came on the back of chaotic ball movement that was not trained for in any way. The losses were down to slow ball movement which was a Hardwick directive.

To use the 9-win streak as evidence of coaching competency is completely misguided.