When will Bernie go !!

[lamb22]

I am very grateful that we appear to have a consistent game plan.

Our shape looked the same against Carlton as it did against Adelaide JLT 1.

I am very grateful Balmey came back to reset the football department to 'competent' settings.

I am grateful Caracella is working within Balmey's parameters to deliver a more common sense offensive ball movement and game plan.

It will actually be an interesting year. We are drifting more towards a Bulldogs game plan and it makes sense with our strengths.

A lot of sides are still playing possession and methodical build up and switching back and sideways.

If we win a few, interesting to see how teams might counter. I'd think they'd throw more back to clog up the space and then score on rebound similar to Hawks in 2008.

 

[AngryAnt]

I gather you are going to jump on the bandwagon of those whose said Dimma's game plan sucked and appropriate it as your own.

Appropriate Dimma's game plan as my own? Or appropriate the bandwagon as my own? Or jump on it, then appropriate it? You lawyers really have a way with words - now if only you could get them to make sense.

Being wrong means being right, War is peace eh?

Probably, some astute Richmond supporters were hoping for a loss to Carlton in Round 1. For some of us winning is losing and losing is winning. We've always been at war with Eurasia too.

 

[lamb22]

More doublespeak.

You've always trotted out your glib "father knows best" routine.

How about an honest answer. In your opinion is the present game plan predominantly Hardwick's or Caracella's?

 

[mad_tiggy911]

I am very grateful that we appear to have a consistent game plan.

Our shape looked the same against Carlton as it did against Adelaide JLT 1.

I am very grateful Balmey came back to reset the football department to 'competent' settings.

I am grateful Caracella is working within Balmey's parameters to deliver a more common sense offensive ball movement and game plan.

It will actually be an interesting year. We are drifting more towards a Bulldogs game plan and it makes sense with our strengths.

A lot of sides are still playing possession and methodical build up and switching back and sideways.

If we win a few, interesting to see how teams might counter. I'd think they'd throw more back to clog up the space and then score on rebound similar to Hawks in 2008.

Geelongs approach this weekend. They set up from the back half.

 

[TigerMasochist]

In your opinion is the present game plan predominantly Hardwick's or Caracella's?

Dimma's 2013 game plan revisited but with better quality players. Carrotseller's just helping Dimma to teach n implement the game plan

 

[lamb22]

Dimma's 2013 game plan revisited but with better quality players. Carrotseller's just helping Dimma to teach n implement the game plan

Your position was never in doubt TM.

 

[AngryAnt]

More doublespeak.

You've always trotted out your glib "father knows best" routine.

How about an honest answer. In your opinion is the present game plan predominantly Hardwick's or Caracella's?

Father knows best? OK....

To your question. A little from column A, a little from column B. Now this is just my assumption - unlike your learned self and other astute types round here I don't have access to the meetings inside the club where all this stuff is planned and executed. It's great that we have people on these boards who know exactly when, how and why Dimma and Blake have their coffees.

 

[Leysy Days]

Dimma's 2013 game plan revisited but with better quality players.

No, it's not. Far from it. if us or any club reverted to a 5 year old game plan they would be screwed.

 

[lamb22]

Father knows best? OK....

To your question. A little from column A, a little from column B.

Funnily enough I agree with you. Hardwick's plan includes using a football. Blake fills out most of the rest.

 

[Baron Samedi]

hardwick still messes with the good systems his assistants have been building.

listen to his pressers. he scoffs at every suggestion we're playing "attacking" footy. "all about defence" he says.

look at his selections. solid-bodied experienced players invariably get the nod over fleet-footed, precocious youth.

look at his positions. vlastuin in the forward line has been a disaster but still he persists all through JLT and into round 1. why? floss doesn't offer much there, not with greater speed all around him. conca and ellis down back. why? short and miles omitted and hunt retained. enough said.

hardwick is still dragging the team down despite the good signs so far.

collingwood will reveal more about our prospects this year. lose, and hardwick may as well start cleaning our his desk. win unconvincingly and it'll just take a little longer than last year to drop out of contention. win well and we can only relish how we're playing. you just know that somewhere, sometime, dimma will revert to type.

and before anyone says "yeah, well, dimma oversaw 2013", what is the common denominator? evidence points to Leppa.

 

[TigerForce]

Has he done the Happy Wednesday presser yet?

 

[AngryAnt]

and before anyone says "yeah, well, dimma oversaw 2013", what is the common denominator? evidence points to Leppa.

Good point. Leppa excelled at Brisbane as a senior coach with full control of the game plan.

 

[Baron Samedi]

Good point. Leppa excelled at Brisbane as a senior coach with full control of the game plan.

yes. all brisbane FC amounts to is a gameplan. poor culture, off-field politics and mediocre list didn't cruel Leppa at all.

also - some blokes simply make better assistant coaches.

hardwick. now there's an assistant coach.

 

[Ridley]

Hardwick's plan includes using a football.

:hihi Well you do need one for boundary line stoppages in the forward pocket.

 

[Harry]

Some are a bit harsh on bernie. His record speaks for itself

 

[DragaTheCro]

yes. all brisbane FC amounts to is a gameplan. poor culture, off-field politics and mediocre list didn't cruel Leppa at all.

also - some blokes simply make better assistant coaches.

hardwick. now there's an assistant coach.

Totally agree

 

[Sintiger]

Seriously guys none of you know who makes the decisions about game plans and who is or isn't the driver to changing the way we play.

You can hypothesise and postulate all you like but the simple fact is that you don't know.

 

[lamb22]

Seriously guys none of you know who makes the decisions about game plans and who is or isn't the driver to changing the way we play.

You can hypothesise and postulate all you like but the simple fact is that you don't know.

 

[AngryAnt]

yes. all brisbane FC amounts to is a gameplan. poor culture, off-field politics and mediocre list didn't cruel Leppa at all.

also - some blokes simply make better assistant coaches.

hardwick. now there's an assistant coach.

Yes - it's an absurdly reductionist argument, which is exactly the same as all the arguments that Dimma is bad/new or returning assistants are good. We agree on that.

All joking aside, I agree that some guys are great assistants and will never make a great senior coach. And failed senior coaches can play valuable roles as assistants.

Your argument that an attacking game plan in 2013 was down to Leppa and now in 2017 it's Leppa (or Caracella depending on which post you read) is interesting, but seems like a long bow to me. I'm sure the new assistants were chosen at least in part for their attacking nouse in the context of a new game plan so true to that extent.

 

[Baron Samedi]

Yes - it's an absurdly reductionist argument, which is exactly the same as all the arguments that Dimma is bad/new or returning assistants are good. We agree on that.

All joking aside, I agree that some guys are great assistants and will never make a great senior coach. And failed senior coaches can play valuable roles as assistants.

Your argument that an attacking game plan in 2013 was down to Leppa and now in 2017 it's Leppa (or Caracella depending on which post you read) is interesting, but seems like a long bow to me. I'm sure the new assistants were chosen at least in part for their attacking nouse in the context of a new game plan so true to that extent.

all we have is presence / absence of staff and what we see on the field in those seasons.

players / coaches have also been on the record with interesting comments over the last few years.