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When will Bernie go !!

Ridley said:
Hyperbolic rubbish easy. It's an opinion and that's it.

not really Ridley.

2017 avgs Disp Marks tackles metres

Docherty 28/9/3/517
Laird 30/5/4/425
Houli 24/5/4/380

Docherty and Laird will occupy HBF's in AA. Bachar' in their league this year.

For Richmond, hes 2nd only to Dusty for metres gained this year. He kicks it long. Dunno if youve noticed, but this year, we have the fewest disposals in the comp.

How does that work? blokes like Bachar are kicking long.

we are 4th. Bachar is a big reason for that.

thats pretty evidence based. :fing32

the trouble with this thread, is its stuck in the past.

the present is where its at fellas. literally.
 
Re: The Hardwick selection, coaching, post-game analysis disconnect

Ridley said:
Grigg is a bit tougher as to who replaces him but the fact is his form has been pretty poor over the last 6-8 weeks after a good start. He needs to be accountable at this. Maybe Menadue or Markov could have an extended run in his role.

Bit harder to work out Grigg's role now. He doesn't seem to be getting the run-with roles of which he had some success.
 
Re: The Hardwick selection, coaching, post-game analysis disconnect

Harry said:
Cats kicked more behinds. Time we stopped looking for excuses. They were missing 5 key players. Bernie dropped the ball. Not surprising.
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Your a laugh a minute Harry.

We were beaten there are no excuses, its a simple fact
 
Baron Samedi said:
if that happens then I hope Balmey, Gale and the board are watching very closely.

plenty of slaps on the club's collective back for staying the course with a head coach who has yet to achieve anything of note.

they are watching very closely... they're getting itchy fingers coz they're scared to death another team will poach Dimma. so its time to print out the contract template and offer him a new 2 year deal. he's achieved more than enough this season to warrant it.

Tigerdangerous said:
To you and your girlfriends Brodders17 and Baloo; if you have a comment about the "disconnect" between what Hardwick says and does and does and says I'm sure there are a few on this blog that would be interested to read them; myself included. As for your idiotic, inane, smart arse comments to date - take them and your small minds and annoy somebody else.

great banter :hihi

toby64 said:
Of course. Lets overlook the 13 wins this year because they were down to the players and the assistant coaches. He didn't make any moves in those to win us the game, like good coaches do.

its laughable to conclude anyone as a good coach after zero finals wins in 170+ games. more than happy to reassess on October 1 though.
 
easy said:
not really Ridley.

2017 avgs Disp Marks tackles metres

Docherty 28/9/3/517
Laird 30/5/4/425
Houli 24/5/4/380

Docherty and Laird will occupy HBF's in AA. Bachar' in their league this year.

For Richmond, hes 2nd only to Dusty for metres gained this year. He kicks it long. Dunno if youve noticed, but this year, we have the fewest disposals in the comp.

How does that work? blokes like Bachar are kicking long.

we are 4th. Bachar is a big reason for that.

thats pretty evidence based. :fing32

the trouble with this thread, is its stuck in the past.

the present is where its at fellas. literally.

Don't reckon we missed him at all when he was suspended easy. We had 2 top wins against Port away & GWS, a regulation win against Brisbane and a calamity against the Saints where it wouldn't have mattered if we had Royce, KB, Ian Stewart, Flea and St.Francis in their prime playing.

He does have good points and gets the pill and gains metres as you point out. I just think he plays his best games against weaker teams under less pressure. I also believe he gets found out against stronger teams under more pressure. He lacks composure and puts team mates under undue pressure due to poor decisions and skill errors. Yes that based on history but it happened again on Saturday; that's about as present as it gets.

He's also kicked 3 goals 7 behinds for the year. 23%. Evidence based. That is terrible for a bloke who can kick the ball as well as he does.
 
Ridley said:
Don't reckon we missed him at all when he was suspended easy.

He's also kicked 3 goals 7 behinds for the year. 23%. Evidence based. That is terrible for a bloke who can kick the ball as well as he does.

you can mount the same case with jack and his bung eye.

yeah, thats bad goal kicking.
 
Him and Castagna are going to the same set shot clinic. Flip the ball around, look like you are packing yourself, never look like it and and hope for the best. As I said, the one that went though was a mongrel jag and he seemed shocked when he dobbed it. I know I was.

I'm still heartened by the fact we played poorly, and they played well going by what I've seen of them this year, but we could still easily have won. Houli kicks those sodas, Mackie misses that hail mary, the umps didn't ream us on that Jack/ Menzel 12 point turnaround...
 
easy said:
you can mount the same case with jack and his bung eye.

Yes you could. Although half the sample size and one of the games was against a basket case in GC. We did cover it very well in the Hawks game though.

Anyway, I would be very concerned going into a final without Jack; particularly with the lack of depth in our key forwards. I wouldn't lose a minute's sleep about Houli missing a final.

But that's just my opinion ;)
 
Harry said:
Been on the fence with houli for a long time does alot of good things in games alot of the time but has real bad form in big games and is very susceptible to going to water. Can't trust him in finals.
Same. There's just too much evidence of him taking his eye off the ball and fumbling, panicking under pressure, giving off 'get away from me' hospital handballs and missing sodas, which I class as mental weakness when you're technically such a good kick.

Short is made of sterner stuff.
 
spook said:
Same. There's just too much evidence of him taking his eye off the ball and fumbling, panicking under pressure, giving off 'get away from me' hospital handballs and missing sodas, which I class as mental weakness when you're technically such a good kick.

Short is made of sterner stuff.

Agree on all fronts Spook.
 
Re: The Hardwick selection, coaching, post-game analysis disconnect

CC TIGER said:
Bit precious are we dangerous? I take your point, however rightly or wrongly PRE is full of sarcasm and smart arse comments, makes the place tick in some funny way. Threads like yours have there points and like it or not many will comment however they like, that's a forum/ blog, however the negative types only post them after loses and refuse to give credit when it is deserved, some just won't ever admit to getting things wrong or in Dimmas case see improvement. Dimma may or may not be the right coach , however there's a whole thread on his down falls that have been discussed over an over, many comments with valid points and the same with Miles and his own thread.

Your girlfriends comment is just childish wank
I don't buy into your bullsh^t CC Tiger - your mealy mouthed platitudes and moral judgements (when it suits you) make me cringe. You write like Edwards plays; erratically. You and your girlfriends are apologists for Hardwick; the two steps forward, three steps back coach. "We lost contested ball" he declares after another lack luster performance by the Tigers on a big game day against Geelong, after removing one of the best ball extractors Richmond has in Miles.

Now get your head around that fact and blatant disconnect between what he says and what he does (which continues to cost the Tigers games!) and is 8 years in the making, and try to come up with a why rather than prattling on about posting etiquette. You are the type that hides behind your snide sarcasm and then flies the moral flag when found out. Like Hardwick, you're a hypocrite!!!! >:D
 
Re: The Hardwick selection, coaching, post-game analysis disconnect

Tigerdangerous said:
I don't buy into your bullsh^t CC Tiger - your mealy mouthed platitudes and moral judgements (when it suits you) make me cringe. You write like Edwards plays; erratically. You and your girlfriends are apologists for Hardwick; the two steps forward, three steps back coach. "We lost contested ball" he declares after another lack luster performance by the Tigers on a big game day against Geelong, after removing one of the best ball extractors Richmond has in Miles.

Now get your head around that fact and blatant disconnect between what he says and what he does (which continues to cost the Tigers games!) and is 8 years in the making, and try to come up with a why rather than prattling on about posting etiquette. You are the type that hides behind your snide sarcasm and then flies the moral flag when found out. Like Hardwick, you're a hypocrite!!!! >:D

CC has more than one girlfriend? Respect. Dunno how blokes do that, I struggle to keep up with one :help
 
Re: The Hardwick selection, coaching, post-game analysis disconnect

Tigerdangerous said:
I don't buy into your bullsh^t CC Tiger - your mealy mouthed platitudes and moral judgements (when it suits you) make me cringe. You write like Edwards plays; erratically. You and your girlfriends are apologists for Hardwick; the two steps forward, three steps back coach. "We lost contested ball" he declares after another lack luster performance by the Tigers on a big game day against Geelong, after removing one of the best ball extractors Richmond has in Miles.

Now get your head around that fact and blatant disconnect between what he says and what he does (which continues to cost the Tigers games!) and is 8 years in the making, and try to come up with a why rather than prattling on about posting etiquette. You are the type that hides behind your snide sarcasm and then flies the moral flag when found out. Like Hardwick, you're a hypocrite!!!! >:D

You remind me of a music teacher I used to have in primary school. If you didn't come in at the right spot when we sang rounds, he would go off his brain. Needless to say we would come in at the wrong spot on purpose 8-
 
Re: The Hardwick selection, coaching, post-game analysis disconnect

tigersnake said:
You remind me of a music teacher I used to have in primary school. If you didn't come in at the right spot when we sang rounds, he would go off his brain. Needless to say we would come in at the wrong spot on purpose 8-

Ahhhh, Mr Jelly-Kacker. He had a thyroid the size of a coconut. During The Gypsy Rover, we used to sing

A (insert footy club) Rover came over the hill,

ah de do arde do dar day etc etc.

you'de get 11 clubs screamed out. Obviously nobody would scream out Hawthorn.

Mr. JK's eyeballs used to look like they were gonna blow and you could actually see the veins on his head pulsate.

yeah, I see the similarities.
 
Re: The Hardwick selection, coaching, post-game analysis disconnect

Tigerdangerous said:
I don't buy into your bullsh^t CC Tiger - your mealy mouthed platitudes and moral judgements (when it suits you) make me cringe. You write like Edwards plays; erratically. You and your girlfriends are apologists for Hardwick; the two steps forward, three steps back coach. "We lost contested ball" he declares after another lack luster performance by the Tigers on a big game day against Geelong, after removing one of the best ball extractors Richmond has in Miles.

Now get your head around that fact and blatant disconnect between what he says and what he does (which continues to cost the Tigers games!) and is 8 years in the making, and try to come up with a why rather than prattling on about posting etiquette. You are the type that hides behind your snide sarcasm and then flies the moral flag when found out. Like Hardwick, you're a hypocrite!!!! >:D
I don't hide behind anything tigerdangerous, you've just taken a regular sarcastic comment and got all defensive, aggressive, demanding and again gone with the childish girlfriend call. No real issue to me if you cringe at my posting, it's just my thoughts, posters can take it or leave it. For the record I'm neither a Dimma fan or critic , I see some good and some bad in his coaching record, however I'm glad to see the team improve this year and believe he may have improved as a coach, an the bottom line is it don't matter one bit what I think or post because it ain't going to change anything at Punt rd.
 
Hearing that Woosha has 1 more year left on contract and is starting to gripe the Bumhead supporters, I feel a bit uncomfortable in possibly losing Dimma to them in 2019. No huge loss for us, but it could be a big bonus for them.
 
Re: The Hardwick selection, coaching, post-game analysis disconnect

tigersnake said:
CC has more than one girlfriend? Respect. Dunno how blokes do that, I struggle to keep up with one :help
Flat out keeping one wife satisfied snake, especially when I'm late from a half time catch up and her beer is half empty ;D
 
TigerForce said:
Hearing that Woosha has 1 more year left on contract and is starting to gripe the Bumhead supporters, I feel a bit uncomfortable in possibly losing Dimma to them in 2019. No huge loss for us, but it could be a big bonus for them.
Brings up interesting point, dosent seem to be the usual couple of untried coaches that everyone wants.
 
CC TIGER said:
Brings up interesting point, dosent seem to be the usual couple of untried coaches that everyone wants.

I'm sure he'd be their no 1 pick given his success with us (best since Swooper), is in rhythm, has experienced bad and good, and the bottom line is that he played with the Bummers (i.e. favourite son stuff)