Baron Samedi said:
you can't, you have to have some experience and strong bodies. Or am I taking crazy pills again?
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you can't, you have to have some experience and strong bodies. Or am I taking crazy pills again?
tigersnake said:
Crikey, it's not hard. Dimma has a terrible record with youth. This year was a major change. Even then it may have been forced on him.
When Dimma talks about "learning" what he means is "everything I believed in is wrong"
tigersnake said:
The first thing that should have been done and what we did this year is excise the drones. Limited players that have no upside. You play your stars and then your solid AFL standard mature bodies. This could be Miles, Edwards, Astbury, Grimes, Flossy, Grigg types.
If your list is unbalanced then again like we did this year you play an unbalanced side rather than playing a player without a future. Again we couldn't totally shake this and Elton played some games for structure but was eventually discarded.
Then you pick your best in form kids and give them an opportunity to learn the sytem and get up to speed.
In only marginal ways did last year assist this year, Firstly Hammer stole the spot of a tall all year. We lucked out by pinching Nank.
Markov played but in limbo this year, Butler and Castagna did not play much. Shorty did which was a bonus. Rioli developed.
They key issue after excising drones was that the game style changed this year. Neither drone excision or game style change happened last year,
Even basic footy 101 of manning up spares in defence if you are going to play pressure forwards was not complied with in previous years.
lamb22 said:
see here's where your analysis is flawed. You say Hammer was a stuff-up, and you're correct. didn't work, no argument from me. Overpaid, underperforming crock. It should and will go in the stuff-up column. But then you say Nank, a tremendous player, exactly what we desperately needed who we got effectively for free, was a fluke. As I say often, you can't have it both ways.
tigersnake said:
Snakey, all i meant is that we didn't develop Nank last year as part of the step back theory.
He is an improvement through good trading rather than in house development.
Beanie probably the one that suffered through lack of opportunity with the concentration on Hammer Vickery and Griff as the key talls/forwards.
lamb22 said:
Football just got a whole lot more McBean-friendly this year, Lamby.
Released a year too early? We'll never know.
Baron Samedi said:
Yep tailor made for him. Lots more inside 50s, fast ball movement, more chaos balls and able to feed off the mozzies and feed off to the mozzies with his good decision making and skills.
Sadly Balmey and Co came a year late for Beanie.
lamb22 said:
a game plan than relies on our smalls being quick, and our talls and mediums standing strong under high balls? not sure where Beanie would fit in. but anyway.
lots of talk about how we have been poor with kids, but yet we have been consistently one of the younger teams in the league under Hardwick.
then claims we didnt play youth last year cos we didnt play Soldo (cos that would have gone well), Butler (who was either injured or stinking it up in the VFL until very late in the year), George (who played 5 games despite average VFL form) or CMoore (who when he did get a game at the end of the year showed how far he was away from being decent at AFL level).
Most of our small forwards apply excellent defensive pressure and keeping the ball inside D50.
Not sure tackling and applying pressure was Liam's biggest strength so he'd likely be in the VFL still just as Ben Lennon & Sam Lloyd find themselves there.
Not sure tackling and applying pressure was Liam's biggest strength so he'd likely be in the VFL still just as Ben Lennon & Sam Lloyd find themselves there.
Midsy said:
surely Balmey would have seen beanie's match winning performance against the pies a couple of years ago?
Tigers of Old said:
The role he'd have if he was here would be relieving Nank in the ruck and providing a tall target and the odd goal up forward.
I'd say his forward pressure would be on a par with Soldo and Elton (and Griff for that matter) and his football ability and decision making way above.
Anyway Soldo now has the opportunity to grow into that role at least short term.
