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West Coast has won 524 more free kicks than its opposition.......
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Talon said:
Wha? I said last week that we weren't greatly disadvantaged by the umpiring over the four quarters while most others would've lynched McBurney if they could.
You don't think West Coast get a consistently good run at home?
martyshire said:
Actually, on second thoughts, what the AFL could do is reduce the amount of time a player has to get rid of the ball. These days, there is no point tackling around the hips and waist because the player with the ball raises his arms to get outside the tackle and then has a couple of seconds to get rid of the ball. Usually it's a clean possession. If the player with the ball who frees his arms is given less time to dispose of the ball, there is a higher chance the this player will turn the ball over or get pinged, so there would be less incentive for the tackler to pin the arms (i.e. he would tackle lower).
There would probably be more turnovers, but we didn't mind that in the olden days!
martyshire said:
I still think people are missing the point. Selwood started it at Geelong with the shrugg. Clubs haven't found a way around it yet, basically if he is stronger than the tackler he will be able to force the tackle to shift high. The Eagles have found a way to do this regardless of the difference in strength. That is, they start to pump one arm upwards (a bit like a goal celebration) as the tackler comes in to make contact. As the tackler starts to wrap his arms around this forces one arm to slide up over the shoulder. The reason I think this can be counter-acted is the obvious nature of it. Once the players start to wise up to it, it will go out of use, IMO. The unfortunate alternative is that they will start to copy it! If that happens I think you can expect a rule change.
Isn't it a shame that West Coast are playing Essendon this week? They are almost being given the green light to rip off a few heads, without consequence, while the rest of the Football world cheers them on.
I'd hate to see those Schmucks win a game against WC because the umpiring fraternity decides to address the 524 free kick imbalance and the Duckers Affair all in one weekend, before they return to normality, business as usual the following week.
I'd hate to see those Schmucks win a game against WC because the umpiring fraternity decides to address the 524 free kick imbalance and the Duckers Affair all in one weekend, before they return to normality, business as usual the following week.
Once they know the motion they are looking for, they will not try to pin both arms. That gives them a much better shot at getting a "holding the ball" free as the player trying scum a dodgey free will have an arm free but he won't be trying to handball. He'll be expecting a free for "head high" and will look like a goose.martyshire said:
I reckon they'd still have enough time to get a handball off (under the current interpretation of how long a play has to get rid of the ball). That's why the umpires should give players less time to dispose of the ball IMO.KnightersRevenge said:
martyshire said:
I would happily agree with this as long as it only applied to opposition teams.
I'm not saying that Arlobill, I'm saying if your first to the ball, odds are the umpires are gonna see it in the ball players favour, not the tacklers, I don't think the West Coast go ducking down and run into opposition, the tackles are either starting out too high or starting low and slipping whether the ball carrier forces it or the tackler does it on his own accord. One thing I've notices with the heading for this subject is 524 frees, over the 12 year period that the stat is recorded on, West Coast play a total of 12 games a season there, so on average that's just under an extra 4 frees a game, now some games they would finish with 5, 10 maybe 15 more frees than the opposition, where in some games that allow them to be on the wrong side of the free kick ratio, the stat look damning when totalled up, but when looking at it for what it is, it really isn't a issue, it's just another point to hang your hat on when your getting beaten, cause you don't get beaten cause your no good, you get beaten because of outside influences and that everyone's against you!arlobill said:
Talon said:
Since 2008 it's up to more than 6 frees a game. It's not as though it's anything new, the Eagles were getting a good run even when they were *smile*. Your posting over the years suggests you have one foot in the Eagles' camp, so I can understand you being cynical regarding the timing of the article.
Maybe the umpires just like the Eagles' colours.
Didn't Worsfold come across as a 'Thompsonesque' smug arrogant pr!ck at his presser the other day.
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