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Welcome to Tigers: Jason Castagna

Harry said:
His tackling and defensive pressure has dropped

Averaging 2 tackles a game in his last 4 games, he has a total of 5 x 1%ers for the 9 games this season, 3 in his last 5 games. so much for those claiming his defensive pressure is a strength of his.
Given his low possession/effective disposal return, I ask again, what does he do all game?
 
Small forward position Stengle
If it's time to change the structure Elton, Lennon, obviously it's not working now.
Geez I'd even back Hunt to do more than George at the moment. ;D
 
willo said:
Small forward position Stengle
If it's time to change the structure Elton, Lennon, obviously it's not working now.
Geez I'd even back Hunt to do more than George at the moment. ;D
I like Stengle but if you think George's pressure has dropped off wait til Stengle needs a lie down halfway through the first quarter. His numbers in the twos are basically the same as George's in the ones.
 
willo said:
Averaging 2 tackles a game in his last 4 games, he has a total of 5 x 1%ers for the 9 games this season, 3 in his last 5 games. so much for those claiming his defensive pressure is a strength of his.
Given his low possession/effective disposal return, I ask again, what does he do all game?

The argument was his defensive pressure outweighed his lack of polish. I didn't agree but could understand the argument. If that has dropped away, he offers next to nothing as a forward.
 
willo said:
Small forward position Stengle
If it's time to change the structure Elton, Lennon, obviously it's not working now.
Geez I'd even back Hunt to do more than George at the moment. ;D

Lennon?? Hunt??

Tell me other small forward one percenter numbers please will. And their marks? Marks I50?

George turns it over too much but he can get better in this area. He tries things and he can get it, half the battle.
 
MD Jazz said:
Lennon?? Hunt??

Tell me other small forward one percenter numbers please will. And their marks? Marks I50?

George turns it over too much but he can get better in this area. He tries things and he can get it, half the battle.

Why?
We're talking Castagna, not others. I gave you his stats to back up what I have been saying. His output is down. No one has put up anything to refute this.

How about if you want info on other players, you do what I do and look for it yourself
I'll supply a link for you to make it easier
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_players
 
His speed is a big bonus for us as he can (not much lately ) break up backlines with his kamikaze running.
He doesn't know where he's running when he has the ball so the opposition won't either.
Remember he's an inexperienced player learning to play AFL .
 
willo said:
Why?
We're talking Castagna, not others. I gave you his stats to back up what I have been saying. His output is down. No one has put up anything to refute this.

How about if you want info on other players, you do what I do and look for it yourself
I'll supply a link for you to make it easier
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_players

I did look that's why I asked the question. Small forwards don't have many one percenters disingenous of you to quote it in isolation.
 
1st Qtr-

Tackles Davis, Rioli follows up free and shot on goal. Jack marks and goals.

Takes mark outside 50 poor kick to jack lead ball goes out of bounds

Gets jandpass from Edwards snaps goal

Edwards kicks inside 50 George picks it up on bounce and snaps goal on left.

Handpass to no one in broken play - lack of composure.

So kicks 2 and involved in another.

Huge for a small forward.

Will watch
 
MD Jazz said:
I did look that's why I asked the question. Small forwards don't have many one percenters disingenous of you to quote it in isolation.

Well, seeing you asked me to tell you about other forwards this that and other things I thought you wanted the information.
I politely supplied a link for you to do so yourself. I'm not your secretary.

*smile* mate. People keep flogging on about his forward pressure. That showed partly what he was actually contributing.
Chaos, forward pressure. What exactly. Look at his stats and his contribution for the last few games.
 
MD Jazz said:
1st Qtr-

Tackles Davis, Rioli follows up free and shot on goal. Jack marks and goals.

Takes mark outside 50 poor kick to jack lead ball goes out of bounds

Gets jandpass from Edwards snaps goal

Edwards kicks inside 50 George picks it up on bounce and snaps goal on left.

Handpass to no one in broken play - lack of composure.

So kicks 2 and involved in another.

Huge for a small forward.

Will watch

*smile* huge alright. 4 or 5 actions in a game. Easy markers around here. If it was a "Hunt" or a "Morris" playing that position with the same success, I'm sure you'd all be crowing about how good, no,huge they are :hihi
 
bringbakflemmo said:
His speed is a big bonus for us as he can (not much lately ) break up backlines with his kamikaze running.
He doesn't know where he's running when he has the ball so the opposition won't either.
Remember he's an inexperienced player learning to play AFL .

I agree with all that.
 
spook said:
I like Stengle but if you think George's pressure has dropped off wait til Stengle needs a lie down halfway through the first quarter. His numbers in the twos are basically the same as George's in the ones.

He can have a lie down, his numbers would be on a par with George's atm
 
For what's it's worth, if he's in the team, I hope he finds some form and has a blinder.
We need him at his best or most chaotic and getting and using the ball
 
Baron Samedi said:
Nice try, but no, I actually said we look way short of top four in this campaign.

Lack of midfield depth and marking support being red alert areas.

Sure, Baron. But at least we now have some youth on the park. And showing promise. Enough to justify a policy of playing youth.

Despite the agony of our recent losses these are not bleak times. Painful but not dismal. They were dismal last year.

If by the end of the year players like George have levelled up to senior AFL class we may be only a couple of players off top-four ability. And then we trade.

Without George, Butler, Rioli, Shai, Connor, perhaps Graham, maybe Garth, we have no future. It's major rebuild time. If we get George producing what we think is his best at AFL level, and regularly, we're going somewhere.

He's not far off senior player performance now - fourteen games into his career. If he lifts his defence a little and gets a few breaks from that he might level up. A smother that leads to a goal shot. A tackle to a spill to a HR to a goal assist. Next thing you know he's jumping on heads.
 
George is regularly providing one quarter where he's involved in most things i50.

thats pretty standard for an inexperienced small forward.

I think hes always going to be pretty random in how he plays, even with experience and consistency.

if random consistency is possible.

George has no shell. And I dont want him being burdened with one.

Hes a bare knuckle gypsy. Hes part of a band. I'm a fan.
 
He's mercurial, easy. That's handy in a team. He can go off at any time. Just when you think you've got the other two covered Bang! But as you suggest, it's about base-level performance and that's about pressure. We want him to lift the pressure. Pressure creates luck.
 
agree we want more pressure Mr D'e
on the positive side from last week, and there were plenty of positives for a club making a campaign in 2017, the west sydnee backs gave nothing. all game.
cant say that was george but we obvs had the structure right and he was a part of that

and Easy all run of the mill small forwards are inconsistent. 1/4 a game. so we play 3 of the terriers and ask for 2/4. let them be inconsistent and bob like buoys on the waves and impossible to keep them all down. george nearly won the game for us. so did your boy Shai.
what a lovely beautiful terrific change from the last 2 years