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Welcome to Tigers: Jason Castagna

How long til we can add him as a Cat B rookie. If we can teach Soldo to be a footballer, surely we can teach Castagna.
 
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Its common knowledge it was a significant factor at the very least
I want to see a signed note from Costanza confirming this, I don't remember it being common knowledge at the time but I always did lack common sense.

I do remember him flying into packs and bringing the ball to ground, fearless. When he did mark it both he and the oppo players looked mildly surprised.
 
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you reckon he retired coz of the supporters?

Yeah his partner had to close there social media accounts because of the constant personal abuse they were copping - which came from Richmond "supporters"

Dimma is also on record as saying his biggest regret from his time coaching us was not supporting George enough.

Said when he lost some form, then the vitriol came and then confidence went - he wasn't strong enough standing up for George (and working with him) to help him work through it.
 
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Aren"t the george haters pathetic? Don"t disguise your disgust with faint praise about effort.

Critical player. Loved player. Key player. Bravo george, never forgotten.
 
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When he faces his own backline to kick a goal it shows how bad his kicking was. That’s him acknowledging it himself. Couldn’t kick, couldn’t handball, hardly marked and missed tons of sitters from in front of the goals. Maybe he should have improved his basic skill set while being paid as a professional footballer.

But as I’ve said, I’ve never knocked him for lack of effort. Ever.

He did well to become a millionaire from football and win 3 premierships. Can hardly feel sorry for him. Plenty of players retire due to the mental toll the game takes. Not many blame their own supporters.
He didn't blame Richmond supporters who bagged him and couldn't understand him or see what he brought to the team. But it got to him and contributed to his early retirement.

He didn't blame them. But I do.
 
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I just always remember him kicking a clutch goal, I think it was the 2019 PF, and we were right behind him kicking (around 50m out, set shot). When we really needed a goal, he would often kick them. When we didn't need it, best example is 2019 GF, he sprayed them all over the place. When a guy can kick a really needed goal from about 50m out and miss easier and less important goals, you know you have a problem. Yes, Castagna could be very frustrating, but he was a vital part of 3 flags. I'll be forever grateful he was part of those teams.

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When he faces his own backline to kick a goal it shows how bad his kicking was. That’s him acknowledging it himself. Couldn’t kick, couldn’t handball, hardly marked and missed tons of sitters from in front of the goals. Maybe he should have improved his basic skill set while being paid as a professional footballer.

But as I’ve said, I’ve never knocked him for lack of effort. Ever.

He did well to become a millionaire from football and win 3 premierships. Can hardly feel sorry for him. Plenty of players retire due to the mental toll the game takes. Not many blame their own supporters.
No excuse for the abuse.
 
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It's a terrible situation if George retired due to abuse from 'supporters'. No justification for that. None.

That said when players are gone we do tend to rewrite history a little regarding their effectiveness.
No doubt a key role player during our chaos era but far less an important part of our setup after SHocking rule changes.
Yes he was a good aerialist & had a catlike recovery for his size but Georgie's one wood was his pressure & once the stand rule as introduced, that reduced his effectiveness. These rules were brought in to squeeze players like Castagna out. It was notifiable in his final season how ineffective he'd become.

His form before retirement (for whatever reasons), had dropped away significantly.
An inability to hit targets by hand & foot (or the scoreboard) was amplified in an incarnation of the game that relied more heavily than ever on disposal accuracy. He was really struggling.

A few bozos aside, Chaos George will always be remembered fondly by the Tiger Army as a 3 time Premiership player during our successful period.
I'm sure that helps him sleep better at night.
 
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I just always remember him kicking a clutch goal, I think it was the 2019 PF,
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Never missed the clutch goal. Always made important contributions, loved by his teammates.
 
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Funny how George managed 160+ games despite being a ‘terrible’ kick yet we’ve got a few kids now (from the same draft btw) that are all supposedly very good kicks yet will collectively struggle to play as many games as George did.

It’s almost as if competitiveness and a dose of athleticism will take you further in the modern game than just being a nice kick.
 
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No excuse for the abuse.
No abuse in my post.
Tell me was the abuse you’re referring to, was it at the game he was abused by supporters? Or did you see and hear supporters walk up to him and abuse him? Or was it on a Richmond supporter site?
 
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Aren"t the george haters pathetic? Don"t disguise your disgust with faint praise about effort.
Who are you talking to? Me?
Well for one thing a critic doesn’t have to be a “hater”. And I’ve never used the word or term “disgust”.
It’s not faint praise about effort. It’s a fact, no one ever accused of lacking effort.
His kicking and hand balling skills were poor. Fact. Everyone and I mean everyone held their breath when he kicked for goal. He even knew it was that bad he ended up facing our backline ready to kick around his body for a set shot. Fact

And who are you to call “George haters pathetic”? Talk about a complete hypocrite, with you “hateful” posts on now, which player is it….
Funny how everyone can have their own whipping boy, but criticise one of their “favourites” and all of a sudden you’re pathetic or hateful.
Get a life . Read back some of your own posts on our own players.

Critical player. Loved player. Key player. Bravo george, never forgotten
Well rewarded player with 3 premierships. Even with such a skill set
 
Never missed the clutch goal. Always made important contributions, loved by his teammates.
Missed plenty of them. You must have been drunk watching him if you think he never missed a clutch goal. Or just taking the *smile*. No doubt he was a great bloke and loved by his teammates.
 
Missed plenty of them. You must have been drunk watching him if you think he never missed a clutch goal. Or just taking the *smile*. No doubt he was a great bloke and loved by his teammates.
Criticism is fine, but distortion is not. George was one of our best clutch goal kickers. The more we needed it, the more likely he was to kick it.

Laugh it up. Apart from his last season when he lost confidence, its truth.
 
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Funny how George managed 160+ games despite being a ‘terrible’ kick
Would you say George was a good kick? I highly doubt even his most ardent admires would say that with a straight face.
yet we’ve got a few kids now (from the same draft btw) that are all supposedly very good kicks yet will collectively struggle to play as many games as George did.
So what. Different teams, Different structures, different coaches. No surprises there.
It’s almost as if competitiveness and a dose of athleticism will take you further in the modern game than just being a nice kick.
Well that’s not hard too hard work out. Coaches see different strengths in players.
There are plenty of *smile* kicks who get a game because they want to play more.
There are plenty of Ben Lennons, Corey Ellis and others who fall by the wayside. Beautiful kicks but are found lacking in other areas.
 
Funny how George managed 160+ games despite being a ‘terrible’ kick yet we’ve got a few kids now (from the same draft btw) that are all supposedly very good kicks yet will collectively struggle to play as many games as George did.

It’s almost as if competitiveness and a dose of athleticism will take you further in the modern game than just being a nice kick.

I guess it doesn’t matter how well you can kick the ball if you can’t get hold of it.

degree of competitiveness I reckon drives the worth of a player up.
 
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Criticism is fine, but distortion is not. George was one of our best clutch goal kickers. The more we needed it, the more likely he was to kick it.
Well thank goodness he got the clutch goals coz he missed plenty of others.

Come on mate, let’s not rewrite history. George was a terrible finisher. He kicked more ripper snaps when he didn’t have to think about a set shot. He’s no different to Bolton now who misses plenty he should kick.

Luckily for us, none of his 5 points in the 2019 were “clutch” kicks. Even when gws were a goal in front in the first qtr.

But as I said his effort and work rate were elite. Kicking, especially for goal and hand balling were poor. It’s not downplaying his skills, it’s what they were.


134 games.
127 goals. 106 points. An average of 0.9 goals0.8 points a game. So nearly 50/50 less OOBs and those that fell short, mis kicked sideways or whatever.
That’s not a “clutch goal kicker”

No stats on the kicks that went OOB or fell short
 
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