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Welcome to Tigers: Jason Castagna
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Brodders17 said:
Since the bye he's kicked 4 goals, 9 behinds & been goalless 5 times, I think it's fair to say he's completely off the boil. His possession count has also been below par, only 3 times in those seven games has he registered more than 8 touches & even his tackle count halved. I reckon if you spoke to George he would also be disappointed with his output, the first half of the year was far superior in just about every category.
As for sacking BEllis, not sure that would be entirely fair, his performance has been solid. Castagna is the one who needs to lift & he has two weeks to get back to the form he showed in the first half of the season.
Harry said:
Correct, Higlet offers more to the side because he can play in the midfield. Ironically he's kicked just as many majors as Castagna since switching to the midfield.
bullus_hit said:
So well said again Bullus. Unfortunately George has dropped off even in his area of strengths that his flatterers rave about but are no discerning to see what's happening in front of their eyes. It was similar with KMac although he is putting in more and has improved his output and is kicking more carefully.
I want to see George get back to his best and hold his place in the team by doing so. He's lucky that Butler's ankle problems are still not cleared up, and now Conca has even hurt his other ankle. My worry with George is his confidence and nervy temperament; he needs to throw off the shackles of doubt.
easy said:
Good point but 11 is extremely low. Caddy had 35. Rioli was well down with 19. Spotlight will be on Castagna now with Butler to come back. It's hard to see who else forward could be dropped to make way. Wouldn't want too many more performances like that one.
Brodders17 said:
I think you're wrong here. Better of picking a player who can rotate through the midfield unless they're a gun forward. I can't see us dropping a midfield rotation, presumably you mean Higgins, so that Castagna and Butler can play together. We've still been winning without Butler. I think barring any injuries it will come down to a choice between Castagna and Butler. Guess we'll find out soon.
leon said:
JC is not unique because he can’t play midfield?
Geez Leon you sure like to talk crap.
Baron Samedi said:
BEllis is definitely first out. he was shifted out of the backline once our preferred 7 were back. next step is VFL i reckon.
i dont mean that as a too much of a knock on him. i just reckon he is the (very) unlucky 23rd, or 24th, man.
Baron Samedi said:
Not if he keeps playing like he did last game, no way is he safe, and nor should he be, same for every player out of a bit of form. Had a good start to the season but has dropped off on average the last few. B Ellis might be in the gun but it's not as a replacement for Butler. That's the beauty of having no injuries, some just have to miss out.
How much game time did he have on Saturday, at one stage I saw him sitting on the pine holding a towel to his nose & spitting blood. Later on he looked like he had a broken nose, but it didn't seem to stop him from being hard at the contest.
George is one bloke who keeps going hard at it.
George is one bloke who keeps going hard at it.
evo said:
6 disposals (1 contested). No tackles. No goals. No goal assists. Lowest pressure points. 82% game time..
evo said:
Preposterous notion.
I reckon George is at serious risk of losing his spot to his table tennis mate Butler if/when he comes back.
Harry said:
So he doesn't need to take marks (even though he's supposedly great in the air) & he doesn't need to kick goals even though he can't cut it in the midfield? Once again we slowly descend into farce with the Teflon George retorts. Blind Freddy can see he's in a form rut, confidence is shot & every time he misses a goal it halts the team's momentum. We effectively lost the GWS match because of Castagna, his out on the full against Geelong also set off the Cats revival. It's all good and well to say he's there for pressure but bear in mind every shank on goal hands the ball back to the opposition.
As for the Higlet comparisons, I think you'll find he has Castagna well & truly covered. Not sure where you get the idea Higgins is inferior once the ball hits the ground, contested possessions 7.4 vs 4.4, clearances 1.8 vs 0.4, this despite the fact that George has had 83% TOG compared to Higlet's 73%. With all the time Higgins has spent in the middle he's still managed to have scoreboard impact, 16 goals & 89 score involvements is super impressive, Castagna's figures only fractionally better despite the extra forward minutes (23 & 96).
So for the sake of 12 contested marks in 18 games, just how much more does Castagna provide to the team? To put that in perspective Higlet has 6 so statistically that's a net benefit of one extra mark every 3 games. Time to get those rose coloured glasses off & instead focus on where George needs to improve. If he reverts back to his early season form doubt you'll get one complainant on this here board.
