Welcome to Tiger land Riley Collier’Dawkins

[Scoop]

Stocker was told by our recruiters he wasn't working hard enough off the ball, to put it bluntly he was a perceived slacker, that wake-up call lead to plenty of extra running & he got his 2km down to around 6 minutes 30 secs. Collier-Dawkins tested at 7 minutes which is very poor but would now be close to Stocker's time based on his recent time trial. So with their endurance being equal at this stage in the game it's pretty hard to make a case for Stocker being the better prospect, the fact that RCD is more a middle distance runner just adds to the weight of evidence. Skill wise RCD nails Stocker to the cross, that's just my opinion of course but I'm reasonably confident that Richmond will come up trumps in this particular case.

So there is no chance that Stocker has also improved in an AFL environment like RCD? So the fact that the in the on field data, the actual playing of the game, Stocker was a lot better than RCD in 2018? Now that doesn't translate all the way to AFL in five years. But the only thing you are weighing up the future on is running ability. Dangerous game.

 

[easy_tiger]

I have no idea how good Stocker will be & don't really care. Am confident in this kid being a ripper though.

Yeah, i dont really give any thought to the development of picks before ours, other than to appreciate the footy they play.

I do rue the odd picks that go after ours (e.g had a couple of grundy pains late last year), but pretty much forget the ones before.

But i can appreciate that for blokes like Bully and Scoop, its a validation/calibration of their science, which i admire

Bearing in mind, i went public in declaring RCD2 a first round bust, and am looking increasingly likely (fingers crossed) to be validated as a buffoon.

 

[Tigertough1974]

LOL, so far wrong , i think the look was a WTF moment & relief they didnt take RCD

Where is this footage mate? I thought I read there were NO cameras in our room so obviously no footage?. I was keen to watch it at the time if there is any can it please be shared?

 

[taztiger4]

Where is this footage mate? I thought I read there were NO cameras in our room so obviously no footage?. I was keen to watch it at the time if there is any can it please be shared?

I havent seen any footage mate, it was King Kong who suggested there was, I refuted it because he is always wrong !!

 

[tigertim]

I havent seen any footage mate, it was King Kong who suggested there was, I refuted it because he is always wrong !!

:hihi

 

[The Mole]

Where is this footage mate? I thought I read there were NO cameras in our room so obviously no footage?. I was keen to watch it at the time if there is any can it please be shared?

I think is the footage.https://www.afl.com.au/video/2018-12-06/must-see-exclusive-access-as-the-carlton-draft-deal-goes-down

 

[Ghost of Punt Road]

My concern with RCD is he never really had much of the ball.

Corey Ellis always had skills, just not much point if you only get to where the ball 'ain't.

 

[nikolasmia]

got heaps of the ball in the TAC cup finals

 

[Willo]

Id say balmey and co would been very proactive in the media linking us to him.

It will be great to see Balmey whack a Carlton bloke whilst wearing a black and yellow tie.

BTW

I think we should call this kid RCD2

And then hope like hell we draft another hyphen called


Something like Chet Pomade-Orlandeo III

Who apparently grew 2 feet over summer

Oh geezus :rofl

 

[bullus_hit]

So there is no chance that Stocker has also improved in an AFL environment like RCD? So the fact that the in the on field data, the actual playing of the game, Stocker was a lot better than RCD in 2018? Now that doesn't translate all the way to AFL in five years. But the only thing you are weighing up the future on is running ability. Dangerous game.

Nope, running very important but not the total picture, & I concede I've been very wrong on a few occasions, I've tried to balance things better over the years however. The other issues for Stocker is his lack of exposure to top line football & the fact he was just ok in TAC finals. Collier-Dawkins lifted immeasurably, Stocker was more pedestrian, the evidence is lacking & if I'm SOS I certainly wouldn't risk a premium pick for a player who presents as a B grader at best.

 

[Jonesracing82]

Don't think anyone is writing Stocker off but SOS trying to be clever & handing over next year's pick will hurt, just my opinion but I fail to see where the improvement will come from. The RCD vs Stocker decision is peripheral but will just add to the pressure, limited upside from all the evidence to date.

IMO add to this the pick/player the Crows get next yr as well.

 

[King Kong]

I havent seen any footage mate, it was King Kong who suggested there was, I refuted it because he is always wrong !!

In that case you must be someone of above average intelligence

 

[King Kong]

:hihi

Centrelink won't be happy you're on PRE again instead of looking for a job

 

[bullus_hit]

IMO add to this the pick/player the Crows get next yr as well.

Yes, that must also be taken into account, my gut tells me Crows will bounce back however.

 

[Jonesracing82]

Yes, that must also be taken into account, my gut tells me Crows will bounce back however.

A good injury run & they'll be contenders again, then have a top 3 pick in the Draft, they must have been laughing after that trade was completed.

 

[fastin bulbous]

There’ll be plenty more early first round picks for Carlton to flush down the loo.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I havent seen any footage mate, it was King Kong who suggested there was, I refuted it because he is always wrong !!

King Wrong?

 

[Scoop]

Just thinking of templates for RCD and I think Blake Acres at St Kilda are pretty close.

Acres has had some huge games at AFL level and then weeks of not much. But the graph is going the right way and I reckon this year he puts it all together.

Same for RCD, he will moments but will need time to put it together.

 

[turk-d-tiger]

Just thinking of templates for RCD and I think Blake Acres at St Kilda are pretty close.

Acres has had some huge games at AFL level and then weeks of not much. But the graph is going the right way and I reckon this year he puts it all together.

Same for RCD, he will moments but will need time to put it together.

I see Blak Acres as more outside player than what RCD will become and RCD looks to be more an aggressive player than Acres is

We wont know the template for him until we see him play this season out in both VFL and AFL if he gets games

But i would like to see him heading the Fyfe route

 

[Smoking Aces]

Just thinking of templates for RCD and I think Blake Acres at St Kilda are pretty close.

Acres has had some huge games at AFL level and then weeks of not much. But the graph is going the right way and I reckon this year he puts it all together.

Same for RCD, he will moments but will need time to put it together.

You are not setting the bar very high with the Acres comparison.