Leysy Days said:
Likely outcome. But surely we should give him a few games at AFL level to make sure of it. Nothing to lose
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Likely outcome. But surely we should give him a few games at AFL level to make sure of it. Nothing to lose
I've had this bloke in the Unlikely category for a bit now. Based on his athletic profile, particularly the lack of improvement in it. If anything I'd say he's smaller now than when we drafted him. That is a disadvantage. The knee injury stymied him so could be some hidden upside.
Getting a kick is still the best indicator of football ability. As Leysy rightly points out Butler can't get one.
This is a real bad combination. Blokes who don't get much ball have to be more explosive to be effective. Butler is getting less powerful in search of stamina. Those around him are maturing and furnishing. Not the manchild Butler. Athletically he's losing ground.
I like him. He is a footballer. The flip flop hairdo of his draft year reminds me of Trent Nichols. He's got some of that. He is smart. He's thinking - you can see it.
Last week in the magoos he finally got a kick. Nothing spectacular but a reasonable ration of ball. He was deft rather than explosive. Smart enough. And he was thereabouts. Up and about. Not hiding. (At least in the second half when I saw him. Not that I think he's working hard enough yet.)
Another who is blooming under McRae's tutelage. Here's his take -
Dan Butler
19 disposals, five tackles, seven inside-50s
Played the best VFL game that I’ve seen him play. His 19 disposals as a small forward, and his intensity and tenacity to fight and win the ball back and tackle, was a real standout. He played above the level.
Getting a kick is still the best indicator of football ability. As Leysy rightly points out Butler can't get one.
This is a real bad combination. Blokes who don't get much ball have to be more explosive to be effective. Butler is getting less powerful in search of stamina. Those around him are maturing and furnishing. Not the manchild Butler. Athletically he's losing ground.
I like him. He is a footballer. The flip flop hairdo of his draft year reminds me of Trent Nichols. He's got some of that. He is smart. He's thinking - you can see it.
Last week in the magoos he finally got a kick. Nothing spectacular but a reasonable ration of ball. He was deft rather than explosive. Smart enough. And he was thereabouts. Up and about. Not hiding. (At least in the second half when I saw him. Not that I think he's working hard enough yet.)
Another who is blooming under McRae's tutelage. Here's his take -
Dan Butler
19 disposals, five tackles, seven inside-50s
Played the best VFL game that I’ve seen him play. His 19 disposals as a small forward, and his intensity and tenacity to fight and win the ball back and tackle, was a real standout. He played above the level.
Dyer'ere said:
very interesting Jack. Its funny, I'd pencilled him in as a bust purely because so many from the last 2 drafts are looking good, law of averages. McKenzie gone due to illness. Broad looks shaky to me (and surprise surprise, a muture-age state leaguer). Appears there's life in Butler yet.
I remember seeing Butler in the first pre season game v Bulldogs last year at Whitten. Looked very impressive then. Since, I have seen him at VFL level a few times and have been unimpressed.
Could it be the case that he is one of those guys better suited to a better quality standard? Either way, he needs a few games in the seniors before we make a call, surely. That is what these 'unsuccessful' seasons should be used for.
Could it be the case that he is one of those guys better suited to a better quality standard? Either way, he needs a few games in the seniors before we make a call, surely. That is what these 'unsuccessful' seasons should be used for.
Dan's problem was that he wouldn't compete or attack the contest. Like many juniors he was just spectating. Finally after a kick up the bum he has got his act together. These VFL bye rounds are very annoying!!
tigersnake said:
He's stagnated again, snake. The big pot on him is BWA. This is what McRae said about him last week -
Daniel Butler
11 disposals, one goal, six contested possessions
Only one tackle to go with his 11 disposals, but his pressure and intensity around the contest, and his GPS (numbers) were through the roof. He’s certainly running on top of the ground and performing really consistently of late.
Butler is everywhere but he can't get the ball or lay a tackle.
The one thing I liked the other day was how he was taking the game on, trying to burst from packs, *smile* his quick , however I'd move him on, can't see him been anything more then a fringie at best , no point giving another year when we can ad another kid to the list.Dyer'ere said:
CC TIGER said:
Indeed. With Rioli showing that he has the role locked in for the next decade, we can be more ruthless with any one under him providing depth.
I wouldn't waste a draft pick on that role this year, I'd be using a spot on the rookie list.
Dan got named an emergency this week. He's worked hard enough for the recognition even if he hasn't put the score on the board yet. He'll get the trip away with the ones.
Maybe he'll get another chance. He does contribute to the buzz in the magoos. To the ethos. I've grown to like him.
Maybe he'll get another chance. He does contribute to the buzz in the magoos. To the ethos. I've grown to like him.
