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mrposhman said:
Why?
IMO the whistle should only be blown to stop play, as in most sports that have an advantage rule.
Mr Brightside said:
40 pressure acts, 6 tackles. Maybe he was just rooted at those moments. You can dissect every player in a game and find moments where they didn't go as hard as they might have purely because at that particular time they are out of breath.
Of course you can and they do, that’s how players improve, Butlers game was much better then recent form , however imho there was a couple of insiped efforts , not mistakes that’s the difference. Our backline makes mistakes , however it’s ever from lack of effort.tigerlove said:
Mr Brightside said:
Backline does not put the manic pressure that key players in the forward line do. Energy used can limit their ability to do it at all times. You have to be realistic. They're humans not machines. If Butler was supposedly insipid in those 'couple' of instances then there's likely a very good reason for it. He's a hunter and a manic pressure player, in the top few for pressure acts every game.
YinnarTiger said:
I believe it's so they can call a ball back if it proves the advantage wasn't there after all. Again I'd prefer they don't blow the whistle but that'd possibly confuse spectators even more if that player were to get caught. There's no absolute right and wrong. It works in other sporting games because their rules aren't as grey and complicated as the AFLs.
tigerlove said:
They can blow the whistle when they decide to call the ball back.
So the whistle is blown to help the spectators understand the game?tigerlove said:
Blowing the whistle is more confusing for the players. They don't know whether it is being blown against them or against their opponent. See the Richo and Mal Michael incident.
tigerlove said:
Or because their umpires are a bit smarter than the average goldfish?
Rugby and soccer handle advantage quite easily. Ref list his arm, shouts advantage and then drops his arm when advantage is over. If during advantage the team lose the ball, it will be brought back to the point of incident.
As for confusing the crowd, when they see the umpire lift his arm, they'll know advantage has been called.
As for confusing the crowd, when they see the umpire lift his arm, they'll know advantage has been called.
Blowing the whistle should be only for a stop play. Advantage should always simply be called n waved on by the maggots.
Watching the ressies game on the weekend, whistle blown n Colonwood player guesses they might have a free n takes advantage, kicks a sausage. Oops fifty metre penalty against, rebound goal to us.
If the whistle is blown and play stops there is no issue. If the player who picks up the ball after a contest or infringement hears advantage called, he knows he's clear to keep on playing. When only the whistle gets blown it's often Russian roulette for the player trying to take advantage n the penalty can be brutal.
Watching the ressies game on the weekend, whistle blown n Colonwood player guesses they might have a free n takes advantage, kicks a sausage. Oops fifty metre penalty against, rebound goal to us.
If the whistle is blown and play stops there is no issue. If the player who picks up the ball after a contest or infringement hears advantage called, he knows he's clear to keep on playing. When only the whistle gets blown it's often Russian roulette for the player trying to take advantage n the penalty can be brutal.
Some good posting there. The AFL advise that the whistle must be blown so everyone knows they saw the free kick (including the crowd and umpires advisors).
Just madness how they can' wave their arms and call it back on a whistle if necessary.
Just madness how they can' wave their arms and call it back on a whistle if necessary.
Yep, apologies for hijacking the Butler thread but I think we all agree that there's no GOOD reason to blow the whistle unless it is to stop play.
Smoking Aces said:
Yep needs to find some form in the VFL show why he deserves a spot in the 1s.
